low/high capacity magazines

generalmiaow

So I haven't even got my first AEG yet but I'm already thinking of getting an additional magazine . There's plenty compatible ones out there, and of course they're all either high-capacity or low capacity. I'm aware of the fundamental difference there, of course, but it leads me to ask why would people buy low capacity magazines, considering they are around half the price. Is it for realism, or is there another reason?

o1s1n

Realism. Plus they don't have to be wound. Generally milisim events only allow low and midcap.

generalmiaow

thanks for the info o1s1n. guess I'll be buying two!

o1s1n

Well, there are low cap, mid cap and high cap.

If you want some realism but not *insane* realism go with mid caps. Although, if you're playing a game against people with high caps you'll probably find yourself in trouble.

Highs are generally recommended. Unless, as i was saying, you're doing a Milisim. Which Predator in the north doesnt do.

generalmiaow

I'm extremely curious as to how they actually work (high cap), especially how they reliably release the BB into the chamber when the pictures I see of them look like a box of BBs, where I'd be used to BBs or cartridges in more or less orderered lines in magazines being lifted by a spring the size of the ammunition.

o1s1n

In your standard low/mid cap, you have a "line" of bbs going down through the mag that are fed. Say 30bbs for low and 60 for mid. Simple as that. With a high cap, you have the same thing.Except. behind the line of bbs there is a chamber/well whatever you want to call it full of bbs. You wind a little wheel on the bottom of the mag which feeds more bbs into the "line", ready to be fired.
When the "line" empties, you wind the wheel again, loading more in from the well.

Spitfire666

I think mid-caps are actualy btter then hi-caps in that you dont need to constantly wind them and the time to change a mag isnt that bad compard to the time lost winding the mag in a hi-cap. it evens out. plus you get the realism of it which is nice without being too real like the 30 shot real caps.

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ya im a midcap man myself for the reasons above.

whupass

ahhhh you see i didn't know that. i thought you could shoot through the whole 300 or so in one burst, so i'll have to take the mag off and wind it again? cos i just bought 2 mags for the p90 and am playing around with them now

N.O.I.P.

Actually you can wind the mag while it is still inserted in the rifle, the cog should be on the bottom of the mag so you can wind and fire at the same time if you like. Oh and I'm pretty sure that I can wind any of my mags in less time then it takes to change one out. Care to try me milsim boys

o1s1n

You don't have to take them out to wind them. just wind a little wheel on the bottom.

I know what you mean about the mid caps. I was just thinking about that myself. 60 rounds in a straight line without winding is nicer then 40 rounds and then a wind...but ah, one high cap is equal to 5 mid caps. 5!! well, that's the case with my famas anyway. So having two high caps and one mid on me, as I will, is the same as having eleven mid caps on me. I know which id rather lug around.

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i see your point with the famas all right, 60 round midcaps are kinda small when ya have what is 1000rpm or something, its grand for my mp5 though with 90 round midcaps as opposed to 240 or their abouts for the highcaps, + it only takes like a second to reload when their taped ,

Spitfire666

the "wheel" on the p90 mag is not accessable when the mag is innserted but you turn it alot more until it clicks then you do with others and it SHOULD last the whole mag. not always the way it works but thats the idea.

Mids for me. 100+ for the AK and in around 100 for the mp5's too. got some 60 rounds for the m15 and will get one more hi-cap and that'll do.

o1s1n

A would p90 mag lasts the whole thing? Excellent. I didn't know that.

If only they all did.

Spitfire666

well thats the idea anyway........i think.

whupass

not for me! or do you have to wind it for a few minutes?

Spitfire666

yeah, it takes a while, then you hear a click and that should be it. i think thats the idea anyway. harekin will know more about it as i havnt really used the p90 that much

Harekin

Mine is the best hi-cap in the world. All you have to do is wind it till it clicks and it'll unload the full mag. Only thing is sometimes (very rarely) it tries to load 2 bb's into the cog at once and jams. A little tap on the top knocks it back into action. Only thing is the high-caps disappear quickly with the insane ROF the have!

o1s1n

I'm extremely jealous. My high caps seem so rubbish in comparison.

Auto winding drum mag in future I think.

Spitfire666

if you gonna go for something like that you need the m249 or m60. otherwise it looks stupid.

N.O.I.P.

You wouldn't be saying that if you were looing down the barrel of a famas that could unload 3500 BB's in one go

ASI Casper

hi-caps have an added disadvantage in comparison in that sometimes the spring will 'unwind' itself. Which is a real pain when you're under pressure and relying on your equipment.
Low / real / mid-caps are more reliable in that respect.

Low-caps, real-caps & midcaps also have the minor added advantage of not rattling like highcaps do. As the bbs in low/mid/real-caps are all under tension.
Several mags of high-caps bouncing about when you run can sometimes make quite a racket. Stealth can be handy on occassion.

They can also be fired upside down or sideways. Doing that with a high-cap isn't possible as they won't feed properly. Mind you, due to the hop-up, firing upside-down or sideways is often pointless anyway, but still. :P

Spitfire666

I agree itd be great fun to use and has loads of benifits but i think it'd ruin the look of the gun.

Harekin

I personally use one high cap and 2 low caps for my P90. Thats 424rounds. I plan on getting another high and another low. That should be more than enough for a game with a sidearm for backup.

generalmiaow

Well I got my AEG today and as I expected from reviews the included high-cap mag is a bit crap (a pity since everything else works great), occasionally the spring unwinds and due to gravity the BBs are sometimes not chambered. Looks like I'll get a mid-cap, from the advice in this thread.

Harekin

If its a G36C two or three bb's wont load at the end, but its because the bb guide (I think its called that), doesnt actually go into the gun so there is a gap between the last few bb's and the gun.

generalmiaow

Harekin wrote:

If its a G36C two or three bb's wont load at the end, but its because the bb guide (I think its called that), doesnt actually go into the gun so there is a gap between the last few bb's and the gun.

nothing that fancy, it's a CM028, which seems to be known for having a rubbish magazine. that said, after having messed around for a few hours with it the magazine spring seems to have been broken in and is now working a lot better.

ASI Casper

BTW, with brand new real / mid / low-caps, you shouldn't load them completely up on the first few goes. It's not good for the spring. They should be 'bedded in' first by half filling them a few times and increasing the amount you put in each time.
Better for the spring.

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BTW, with brand new real / mid / low-caps, you shouldn't load them completely up on the first few goes. It's not good for the spring. They should be 'bedded in' first by half filling them a few times and increasing the amount you put in each time.
Better for the spring.

good council casper

o1s1n

Speaking of high caps, Look what N.O.I.P just sent me a link to;

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=18296

Autowinding high(er) cap Famas mag. :O

Gotta get me one of those.

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some firepower all right. its alot of moneys though. think the basis for my Aug would be around the same

o1s1n

Expensive alright. For that price I could get a pistol instead.

BUT, auto winding is a huge plus. HUGE. As N.O.I.P was saying to me earlier, you could just tape that little button to the pistol grip. Once the mag needs to be wound all you have to do it give it a tap with your thumb.

Very temping. Maybe this summer if someone employs me.

novacorky

im a great fan of buying 10 30 round m4 mags
nothing beat rocking out 30, dropping the mag and slamming the next one in as quickly as possible

N.O.I.P.

novacorky wrote:

im a great fan of buying 10 30 round m4 mags
nothing beat rocking out 30, dropping the mag and slamming the next one in as quickly as possible

I used to think that was a good idea but remember you will have to carry those 10 mags and unless you feel like buying more every month changing a mag will involve

1. opening a mag pouch
2. removing a new mag from the pouch
3. taking the spent mag from the rifle
4. placing the spent mag in the mag pouch
5. finally loading the fresh mag in the rifle.

Personally I'd prefer to wind a little wheel

Evolute

low caps are a pain even in short bursts they run out too quickly and atleast with high caps there easier to reload because you cna be firing one and using another also filling the high caps with bbs is easier no speed loader or any crap like that just plain old shoot and kill with a bit of winding hehe:p Also ive a g36 and if you dont already know the mags clip together for eas acess instead of having to take the mag out and put the spent one back in as N.O.I.P said

Fiach Dubh

I really hope at some stage I can get in on a mil-sim game but I'm not getting left out in the cold on this one. I've got 3 AK74 hi-caps and 1 AK47 hi-cap coming with me

o1s1n

Fiach Dubh wrote:

I really hope at some stage I can get in on a mil-sim game but I'm not getting left out in the cold on this one. I've got 3 AK74 hi-caps and 1 AK47 hi-cap coming with me

Good man yourself! We can be "Team Hose"

Fiach Dubh

It works out better for me anyway. My combat vest only has 4 mag pouches which only take 1 AK mag each. I'll use my magazine bag for grenades

Spitfire666

I was thinking of this and addind a dump pouch to the side of a vest or belt to drop the spent mags into would get around how fiddly they could be to take in and out of a mag pouch in battle.

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ya the dump pouch's are class,it seemed a necessity for me with all the shoty shells and pistol mags,it realy speeds the process up