National Development Plan published during the week 100% BB coverage gets a mention

Sponge Bob

It will include some faff about 100% broadband by 2013.

The department of comms will then issue some class of a tender for "100% coverage" in March .

that does not mean that anyone will apply to provide 100% coverage and that the department of comms will not give it to a satellite company. a tender is useless without a contract in place ...and a timescale like 2013 .

Has anyone any information on the substance of this proposed tender ????

Galway County Council will, however, get €3m to count trees , see this link here if you have Google Earth Installed.

OfflerCrocGod

6 years - sure even at the glacial pace that our market is growing and coverage is spreading there will be 100% coverage by then anyway. At the minimum everyones mobile will have multi Mb net access this "plan" is utterly hopeless and pathetic. With such a stupid timescale the substance is meaningless.

JNive

if they had 100% DSL coverage ( with minimum dsl speed of 1mbps/128kbps ) by 2010/2011 , then id be a happy camper, as a citizen that is, ive got magnet myself, but as a person with a conscience, then 1mbps/128kbps should be available nationwide to any town/village.

Those that are very remote, or live between 2 towns literally, should be able to avail of wireless solutions, which in this day and age, between 3G and WiMAX etc, shouldnt be too much of a problem.

damien

SB's broadband for all proposal is probably the best around not that anyone in DCMNR would go about doing it.

Sponge Bob

I hereby abnegate any personal copyright on same proposal in the national interest.

The NDP will be published here Tomorrow by the way.

3 things to watch.

1. DCMNR (Dempsey) has no money in the 2007 estimates to do much beyond finishing trenching the odd MAN which has gone to contract . He has no new money , so far. I would expect a budget increase immediately for capital expenditure on national BB .

This years DCMNR budget (so far) is €42m and the government may try to present that as new funding.

2. In the absence of at least €150m in cash over the next 2 years Dempsey cannot finish the MAN project or bring in any universalish BB for all program, he could possibly do one or the other but not both .

3. Is there a proposal to increase the national penetration of other government fibre assets such as EBS and/or Bord Gáis fibre ???

Zith

A scheme to deliver broadband to areas of the country that would not be reached by the MANs programme or by the GBS scheme is also being developed for implementation over the period of the Plan. The objective of the scheme will be to deliver a broadband service to the limited number of areas where it is currently uneconomic for the private sector to do so.

NDP is out, that's about all they have to say about broadband besides saying how successful the MANs were ahem...

Sponge Bob

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Sponge Bob

BROADBAND GETS MENTIONED LOADS OF TIMES. LOADS.

They keep repeating this €435m figure but thats not new money, its a small topup on what Dempsey is normally given which would be €350m anyway over that period.

The only committment is to complete the construction of the Man project by end 2013 so that where Dempseys money will go. No EU funds are available for BB initiatives this time. The budget of €435m is over 7 years or €62m a year. Dempsey gets about €48m a year already so this is another €15m on top. It Shows how much they love Noel in the department of Finance. There is no committment to 100% broadband coverage in 7 years time , bar aspirational guff .

Plan here

http://www.ndp.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=1904&mn=&nID=&UserLang=EN&StartDate=1+January+2007

Pages 146 and 147 seem to have the most stuff . GBS schemes "have" been funded (we know) but no mention of "will be funded"

Yiz are all ****ed in rural Ireland so start abandoning ship right now while your gaff is still worth something .

There is no money there to do anthing useful bar finish the MANs and that will take another 7 years

PixelTrawler

This country amazes me sometimes.

My girlfriends dad lives way out in the country side up towards the mountains about an hour south of Munich and he has DSL, and its been available out there for years.

Try that here 10 minutes outside somewhere like Galway!

So basically they're not even talking about 100% coverage by 2013. Its a disgrace when you compare us to up north even.

Sponge Bob

Joebloggs4817 wrote:

So basically they're not even talking about 100% coverage by 2013. Its a disgrace when you compare us to up north even.

They talk and talk and TALK about broadband ( just search the doc I linked )

but they never say this bit below or anything like it.

Everybody in Ireland will be guaranteed access to Broadband by the the 1st of January 2014 .

There is no money in the NDP to do this in 2007 or 2008 or even by 2013 when the market will have DSL in most exchanges if not all , they have given Dempsey some money to dig a few MANS , thats all. Once Dempsey killed off the GBS structure last year that was that for rural Ireland . The government now has a list of 160 towns that it needs to keep up with what the Estonians offer and the money will be spent there on fibre assets.