€100 FO hands

Hectorjelly

Hand 1

I dont remember the stacks exactly. Utg is the chip leader, we are 5 handed. He has about 1.5 times my chips. The other three are very very short. He has been playing quite aggressively utg, he limped AA utg a few tables ago. The BB has not defended his bb once the whole tournament. He min raises and its folded to me on the button. I think I have around 17 blinds. I have JJ


Hand 2

Earlier on, with around 20 players left. Tight player pushes from the cutoff. I have A8s on the BB. I havent seen him play a hand but he looked a little frustrated. I have 15 blinds and he pushed for 8.

Hand 3

Im on the bb. The bb is 2k. Utg goes all in for 5.5k. Do I call here with anything? I had T2o. What if he has another 2k behind?

gosplan

Hectorjelly wrote:

Hand 1

The BB has not defended his bb once the whole tournament. He min raises and its folded to me on the button. I think I have around 17 blinds. I have JJ

Is he on bb now? What was your action before it went to him?Am I getting this all wrong?

Hectorjelly wrote:

Hand 2

Earlier on, with around 20 players left. Tight player pushes from the cutoff. I have A8s on the BB. I havent seen him play a hand but he looked a little frustrated. I have 15 blinds and he pushed for 8.

Not sure what others would do but I'm folding this. Mainly because I have a huge problem with weak aces in tournaments. He's getting low in chips but if he's tight I don't like it.

Hectorjelly wrote:

Hand 3

Im on the bb. The bb is 2k. Utg goes all in for 5.5k. Do I call here with anything? I had T2o. What if he has another 2k behind?

Whats yer stack? I'm calling with 102o if it's decent. Another 2k and I'd consider it a very weird play and fold.

Ste05

Hand 1: Nasty Spot, you'd be hard pressed to make up a more disgusting spot, so shallow, a min raise, against chip leader. Mneh, I don't know what I do here, maybe call, maybe raise, it'd be a shame to re-raise here and win so little against a crap hand. But then again calling and we can't be happy with any A, K, or Q on the flop.

I don't want to raise and then be faced with a push, nor do I want to raise and miss out on value from my hand,

I also don't want to push and only be called by a better hand. I really hate this spot,

A call and we have to worry about any A, K, or Q on the flop.

Folding is just mad, what I'd actually like to do is punch the UTG guy and then ask him to fcuking raise properly so he's easier to play against. Yes that's what I'd do. Punch the UTG guy.

Hand 2: Probably call if he really looked that frustrated, although A8s is on the absolute bottom of my calling range here and I'd prefer even A9 or A10.

Hand 3: I don't find out what I have until after I call, (assuming noone else calls)

If he has another 2K it depends on how much I have but I'm probably calling with most holdings, (at least top 50% of hands anyway) I'll look first though.

Scouser in Dub

Ste05 wrote:

Folding is just mad, what I'd actually like to do is punch the UTG guy and then ask him to fcuking raise properly so he's easier to play against. Yes that's what I'd do. Punch the UTG guy.

Genuine lol

Hitman Actual

Hand 1: What's UTG's calling range for a push? With 17BBs there isn't really a decent raise you can make that doesn't leave you short, and maybe commited on the flop. If you flat call, you're still in a tricky enough spot against an aggressive UTG, and a flop that often has overcards. If I thought UTG was the type of player who'd call a push with Ax, lower pairs, etc, then I might just push. If not, flat call and try to make some money off UTG on the flop. (I assume the blinds are going to fold to the min-raise, from your wording?).

Hand 2: Clear fold against a tighty, I would think.

Hand 3: Getting 8/3 on your money for the 5.5K case, yeah, any 2. Not for the 2K extra case, it's much tighter.

ocallagh

Hand 1 is a tough one. You have too much to push, you have no idea how strong he is, and your hand is vulnerable on a lot of flops.

I'd play this hand totally differently against loads of opponents, and also the BB is an important factor.

The only definite positive is your position and the fact that the BB is not calling without a hand, so I'd work from that.

You could make it 6BBs to go which is essentially pushing. He might call and you could snap it off on a nice looking flop. So in this instance you risk 6BBs to win 6BBs. However I'd cry if I had to fold to an ace high flop after investing 1/3rd my stack.

If you feel he will cbet 4BBs most of the time then you could flat call and push to his cbet on a low flop which is the same result as above but less risk.


This type of situation is just horrible.

Hand 2. I'd generally fold this against a tight player unless I could pick up a tell which you mentioned you did. I'd take my time thinking about this one. When you don't auto call he will know you have worse than AJ/88+. If he has this range beat he will be comfortable and from his manner I would make a decision.

Hand 3 3.5k to win 8.5k and no folding equity is not great wth T2o however it's not terrible and I'd probably call and just bust the guy. If he had another 2k I'd call with Ax/TJs/55

cardshark202

Hand 1: Push
Hand 2: Clear call. You're only a slight dog even if he's pushing the top 10% of his hands
Hand 3: Clear call. You're 70-30 even if he pushes only the top 30% of his hands.

mdwexford

Hand 1 - Flat Call, re-evaluate on the flop, you have position

Hand 2 - Fold

Hand 3 - Call

BigCityBanker

In hand one UTG may have a hand with which he would like to see a flop with but rather than limp in and call a 4/5BB raise he min raises which will pretty much ensure than nobody is coming ott of him unless they have a monster and it will then leave him with an easy fold. I think he potentially sees his cheapest flop here and loses the minimum if somebody wakes up with a moster with which they are willing to reraise with. I think his range includes 55 - 99 alot of the time. I think at this stage of the tourney UTG can often pull this move to ensure that they lose the minimum. Not a line id play myself unless I condidered the table to be very weak but I have seen it done plenty of times. If he has played QQ+ or AQ+ in this manner then just dont stop at punching him! I go to the car and take my little used 2 iron to him. I think I repop it here and see how much he likes his hand - if he has the mentality to minraise utg with QQ+ / AQ+ from this position then he is surely the type of player to RRAI and then you can get away from it also.

ntlbell

BigCityBanker wrote:

In hand one UTG may have a hand with which he would like to see a flop with but rather than limp in and call a 4/5BB raise he min raises which will pretty much ensure than nobody is coming ott of him unless they have a monster and it will then leave him with an easy fold.

QJo/s J10o/s and other such delights seem to be the new AA utg min-raise.

Seriously, I think it's about time min raising was banned.

What happened to that guy who was inventing a way to stab people in the face over the internet?

I can't wait.


I think you should re-min-raise and show him who's boss.

bottom feeder

Hectorjelly wrote:

Hand 1

I dont remember the stacks exactly. Utg is the chip leader, we are 5 handed. He has about 1.5 times my chips. The other three are very very short. He has been playing quite aggressively utg, he limped AA utg a few tables ago. The BB has not defended his bb once the whole tournament. He min raises and its folded to me on the button. I think I have around 17 blinds. I have JJ

hectorjelly this hand involved me, as i remember the guy on bb was a very lag player and defend he did, he came to the f/t chip leader and donked them away, he was pushin with anything...
i dont think i was playing very aggressively utg although i was playing very aggressive i chose wat postion to do it from, i do agree the min raise was a horrible bet , and it was a good laydown as i told you i had got AA.....
as you pointed out i limped utg with AA's on previous table and guy next to me goes all in and i call ,he turns over AA as i do.....

bottom feeder

BigCityBanker wrote:

In hand one UTG may have a hand with which he would like to see a flop with but rather than limp in and call a 4/5BB raise he min raises which will pretty much ensure than nobody is coming ott of him unless they have a monster and it will then leave him with an easy fold. I think he potentially sees his cheapest flop here and loses the minimum if somebody wakes up with a moster with which they are willing to reraise with. I think his range includes 55 - 99 alot of the time. I think at this stage of the tourney UTG can often pull this move to ensure that they lose the minimum. Not a line id play myself unless I condidered the table to be very weak but I have seen it done plenty of times. If he has played QQ+ or AQ+ in this manner then just dont stop at punching him! I go to the car and take my little used 2 iron to him. I think I repop it here and see how much he likes his hand - if he has the mentality to minraise utg with QQ+ / AQ+ from this position then he is surely the type of player to RRAI and then you can get away from it also.

noel your getting very aggresive man.... Anger issues...!

califano

Hand1
Nowadays im finding players min raise because they can get away cheaply enough if someone comes over the top(but will usually call a short stacks all in). And they dont min raise to create the illusion of a big hand either. I push.

Hectorjelly

Hand 1 I quickly folded, i thought he was showing enormous strength with the min raise and wanted action; I think the stack sizes dicate caution here. He said afterwards he had AA

Hand 2 I called, he had 77. I think this might be a slightly bad call as I have no indication he was moving in with a hand worse than mine. I hit two aces anyway though

Hand 3 I called the extra 2.5k not realising he had another 2k behind! I flopped a ten to beat his AK anyway