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First Live tournament

  • 18-01-2007 1:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭


    Hi. I was just wondering if any of you more experianced players have any tips for
    me for this event, as it will be much appreciated. Im pressume theyre will be about 50 people at this event. Its a 50e +5eReg game.

    Just to let you know of my knowledge of the game, I play online, but mainly live home games. We play 6-10handed. I get to heads up 9/10 times, and win aboutn7/10 times. Im not trying to sound cocky, just tellin you the facts, as i would only rate myself as a good player. Most of the players on the table are quite good.

    I dont plan on doing well in this tourament, i just want the experiance. Some topics you may answer, is maybe rules i may not be familiar with.

    Any Help is much appreciated,
    Cheers

    Red


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭BigDragon


    RedXIII wrote:
    Hi. I was just wondering if any of you more experianced players have any tips for
    me for this event, as it will be much appreciated. Im pressume theyre will be about 50 people at this event. Its a 50e +5eReg game.

    Just to let you know of my knowledge of the game, I play online, but mainly live home games. We play 6-10handed. I get to heads up 9/10 times, and win aboutn7/10 times. Im not trying to sound cocky, just tellin you the facts, as i would only rate myself as a good player. Most of the players on the table are quite good.

    I dont plan on doing well in this tourament, i just want the experiance. Some topics you may answer, is maybe rules i may not be familiar with.

    Any Help is much appreciated,
    Cheers

    Red


    Wayyyyy too much to tell you. Just go play this 3 or 4 times and enjoy yourself. Make mistakes and write them down. Then come back here and ask questions. Enjoy.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Just familiarise yourself with rules such as string betting, announce each raise clearly, just make sure you don't do anything silly and you should be ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    stuff that I regularly screwed up on on my first few visits to casino tournies

    make sure to act in turn

    don't comment on hands in play when you're not involved (lots of graduates from home games do this)

    don't string bet

    remember to enjoy yourself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    RedXIII wrote:
    Hi. I was just wondering if any of you more experianced players have any tips for
    me for this event, as it will be much appreciated. Im pressume theyre will be about 50 people at this event. Its a 50e +5eReg game.

    Just to let you know of my knowledge of the game, I play online, but mainly live home games. We play 6-10handed. I get to heads up 9/10 times, and win aboutn7/10 times. Im not trying to sound cocky, just tellin you the facts, as i would only rate myself as a good player. Most of the players on the table are quite good.

    I dont plan on doing well in this tourament, i just want the experiance. Some topics you may answer, is maybe rules i may not be familiar with.

    Any Help is much appreciated,
    Cheers

    Red

    Don't bluff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    EL Stuntman

    Will you provide your standard glossary of terms for the OP's benefit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    EL Stuntman

    Will you provide your standard glossary of terms for the OP's benefit?

    I was expecting to see some advice here on double suited connectors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭dingle


    There is some really good advice in the 'Poker Guide' sticky thread at the top of the page.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    EL Stuntman

    Will you provide your standard glossary of terms for the OP's benefit?

    well, I am very busy (:rolleyes: ) today but here's a few useful bits of tournament terminology to help you along:

    1. when you call a large pre-flop raise with 58 suited (and why not? they were suited after all!), flop two pair and call large bets on all streets to beat your opponent's pair of Kings, and he then proceeds to refer to you as "a fishy cnut".....what does this mean?

    This is a great compliment! This means that he rates your poker abilities very highly and he is warning the rest of the table to stay away from you in future as you are clearly a dangerous opponent.
    The 'fishy' reference refers to your great skill in playing him like a hooked salmon and landing the 'catch' of most of his chips in your net. Don't worry about him calling you a cnut, poker players habitually disguise their true feelings.

    2. "Clock". What the hell do clocks have to do with poker? Well, there's a tournament clock which governs when the Blinds should increase (usually every 30/40 minutes or so). There may be players at your table who like to think things through when faced with a decision. After about 10 (or maybe 5) seconds of them thinking, you should loudly shout out "clock". This will freeze the tournament clock, thus ensuring that the player wil have time to properly have time to reflect on his optimal play.
    The player making the decision will be deeply grateful to you for this intervention.

    Note that you can only call "clock" when you are not involved in a hand.
    It is especially encouraged to call "clock" on players at tables other than your own. When you do this, all other players in the tournament will probably shout jovial slogans at you in order to demonstrate their approval.

    3. "Chip race". When a break is called and the tournament director announces that a chip race is to take place, this means that the first person to make it back to the casino with a bag of chips (don't forget the salt and vinegar!) for the tournament director will be awarded 10,000 extra tournament chips.
    This is why most poker players wear casual footwear, to allow them to reach maximum speed in the ensuing dash to the local chipper


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Lol!


    Anyway, don't bet one large chip and assume they think you are raising, it is a call. Announce raise before you put it in.
    Always bluff when suited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭newbie2


    well, I am very busy (:rolleyes: ) today but here's a few useful bits of tournament terminology to help you along:

    1. when you call a large pre-flop raise with 58 suited (and why not? they were suited after all!), flop two pair and call large bets on all streets to beat your opponent's pair of Kings, and he then proceeds to refer to you as "a fishy cnut".....what does this mean?

    This is a great compliment! This means that he rates your poker abilities very highly and he is warning the rest of the table to stay away from you in future as you are clearly a dangerous opponent.
    The 'fishy' reference refers to your great skill in playing him like a hooked salmon and landing the 'catch' of most of his chips in your net. Don't worry about him calling you a cnut, poker players habitually disguise their true feelings.

    2. "Clock". What the hell do clocks have to do with poker? Well, there's a tournament clock which governs when the Blinds should increase (usually every 30/40 minutes or so). There may be players at your table who like to think things through when faced with a decision. After about 10 (or maybe 5) seconds of them thinking, you should loudly shout out "clock". This will freeze the tournament clock, thus ensuring that the player wil have time to properly have time to reflect on his optimal play.
    The player making the decision will be deeply grateful to you for this intervention.

    Note that you can only call "clock" when you are not involved in a hand.
    It is especially encouraged to call "clock" on players at tables other than your own. When you do this, all other players in the tournament will probably shout jovial slogans at you in order to demonstrate their approval.

    3. "Chip race". When a break is called and the tournament director announces that a chip race is to take place, this means that the first person to make it back to the casino with a bag of chips (don't forget the salt and vinegar!) for the tournament director will be awarded 10,000 extra tournament chips.
    This is why most poker players wear casual footwear, to allow them to reach maximum speed in the ensuing dash to the local chipper

    Brilliant:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    newbie2 wrote:
    Brilliant:D

    His online list of terms is far more extensive and well worth a read - damned if I know what thread it was on tho :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭RedXIII


    Cheers guys. Some nice advice there. Ill bare it in mind.

    But i sense som sarcasm in El Stuntmans post....would i be right:rolleyes:

    I spent alot of time watchin tv, i watch a lot of matches on the internet, usually my favorite players... so we try and imitate rules etc in home games, so hopefully i won t fook up on the day...

    I usually state my move (call, bet, raise, fold) so that shouldnt be a problem either... but i have been know to be wrong...

    And a string bet, this is calling, then changing your mind from the players reaction??? Is this even aloud. Ive never even considered doing this. Your first "action" ie if you say check is taken as your desicion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭RedXIII


    Betting - it's always vital at a real poker table to be perfectly clear about your betting intentions. Say out loud that you are betting or raising and the amount you are betting or raising to. This avoids any confusion that can work against you like string betting. String betting is where you drop chips one after the other when making your bet. It is not allowed. The first chip out will be your bet and no more will be allowed if it is adjudged to be a string bet. You can avoid this by stating the amount you intend to bet or raise to before moving any chips out. A common mistake is this: the blinds are at 50 and 100, and you want to raise to 500, so you put in one 500 chip and don't say anything, expecting that your scary pink chip will do the talking. However, unless you have announced "raise", this is treated as a call. If you had put in five 100 chips, then your intention would be clear and this would not be an issue, but even then, it's advisable to clearly announce that you are raising and how much you are raising. Many times you will have people who aren't that focused on the game and won't notice your raise unless you say it. Also remember your raise must always double the current bet. Not raising the correct amount will often be adjudged to be a call. Never ever say "Call and Raise", as this is just considered a call.






    There we go...sorry just reading the sticky now, thanks for the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    string bet = 'See/call your x and raise you xx'

    if you are calling say call
    raising say raise


    if you are raising before any betting, say bet.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    RedXIII wrote:
    And a string bet, this is calling, then changing your mind from the players reaction??? Is this even aloud. Ive never even considered doing this. Your first "action" ie if you say check is taken as your desicion
    Nope, a string bet is when you put out chips in more than one motion. If you are betting the easiest is to say the exact amount you want to make the bet (the raise to, not raise by amount if there is a bet before you).

    If you put in 1000 chips with one hand, then go back for more, or else drop them one at a time this is a string bet and you cannot do it. If there is a bet before you when you do this and you are trying to raise then unless the first amount you put in is double the previous bet then unless you said raise before your action you will not be allowed to raise and it must be a call only. If you say the bet amount before you act e.g. 3,000, you can put them in in any manner you want to though.

    As said above, in most places if you put in one big chip then there is a specific rule about this also. If you say nothing and there is a bet before you then this is only a call. If you say nothing and there is no bet before you this is the bet amount. If you say raise and throw it in then that is the full raise amount (unless it is less than a min raise, then you have to put more chips in).

    These are the rules in the Dublin clubs and most reputable independant tournie organisers. follw this and you will do just fine in this regards.

    If you say call/raise/fold/check this is a binding action and you cannot change your action. Verbal is always the binding action unless you have clearly made some other action first.

    Another point or two for you.

    1. Don't slowroll anyone. Once hands come to showdown, show your hand if you are fairly sure or certain you have the best hand. don't try and imitate any of the 'personalities' you see on telly. People know you are not Mike Matusow or Tony G, so don't pretend you are.
    2. Be polite, but don't take any excessive sh1t from anyone. Don't let people put you off your game.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Are you giving yourself advice? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭RedXIII


    The mouth is actually one of my favorite players, but i dont really imitate anyone. I migth trash talk at at home games, but ill probubally be the quite one at the table.

    Or maybe i could develop an austrailian accent, start slamin on the table and screaming "I will crush you"...who knows :D


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