cash game Question

redzerdrog

just a quick question for the cash game players.

ok say you play 1/2 and you buy in for $200 which is the max in most cases.

If you lose $70 and drop to $130 do you reload to $200 or keep playing with the $130?

or

if you lose say $140 and have $60 left on the table do you reload to $200 or keep playing with the $60?

Thanks in advance for your advice

valor

always buyin for the max

El Stuntman

redzerdrog wrote:

just a quick question for the cash game players.

ok say you play 1/2 and you buy in for $200 which is the max in most cases.

If you lose $70 and drop to $130 do you reload to $200 or keep playing with the $130?

yes, if I think I am better than the other players there

if I'm playing bad or being outplayed, then I leave that table and go find a better one

the one thing I don't do is play on with a stack that will not allow me to extract max value from profitable situations. This is a huge mistake imo

redzerdrog wrote:

if you lose say $140 and have $60 left on the table do you reload to $200 or keep playing with the $60?

Thanks in advance for your advice

this is effectively the same question

short-stack play is not without its charms either (just ask Norwich Fan Rob)!

redzerdrog

so how low would you allow yourself to drop before reloading?

[nicK]

"auto-rebuy to the max.."

you should never let your buy-in drop below the maxium buy-in..
generally, your at the poker table to win chips, so the more chips winning players have in front of them, the more they can win.. (also true for losing sessions of course but winning sessions should greatly outnumber these)

jimbling

im playing 1/2 at the moment... all be it pretty badly :mad: , but I will reload once I drop below 180. Don't really see any real reason not to have the max amount all the time.
Losing respect of other players and taking advantage of that is the only positive for playing on with a shortstack like that... but it doesnt even come close to outweighing the benefits to reloading immediately.

redzerdrog

jimbling wrote:

im playing 1/2 at the moment... all be it pretty badly :mad: , but I will reload once I drop below 180. Don't really see any real reason not to have the max amount all the time.
Losing respect of other players and taking advantage of that is the only positive for playing on with a shortstack like that... but it doesnt even come close to outweighing the benefits to reloading immediately.

cheers i have been playing it pretty badly myself thats why was asking bout reloading wish i didnt have to think about it...

i was reloading when i hit 150 but i wasnt comfortable thinking i could be missing out on more money so think once i hit 180 from now on seems a good ballpark figure

califano

Whats your default % amount of times you call a x5 pf raise with small pairs
for set value?.

cardshark202

I reload if I drop even $4 below the max buyin.

El Stuntman

rounders123 wrote:

Whats your default % amount of times you call a x5 pf raise with small pairs
for set value?.

there's no such thing: depends how deep we are playing and who the raiser is

Hitman Actual

Sklansky has an interesting take on buying in short in NLHETP. Basically, buy in short when you move up in stakes or when you're in an unfamiliar game, so that you cut down the cost of inevitable mistakes.

jimbling

cardshark202 wrote:

I reload if I drop even $4 below the max buyin.

ah, but you play on pokerstars.... us tribeca players have to deal with the fact that the min you can reload for is the same as the min buy-in for
but hey.... thats life.

[nicK]

jimbling wrote:

ah, but you play on pokerstars.... us tribeca players have to deal with the fact that the min you can reload for is the same as the min buy-in for
but hey.... thats life.

really?
gjp allows a reload after dropping $5 at .5/1.. surely the min buyin for .5/1 isn't $5.. is it..?

jimbling

[nicK] wrote:

really?
gjp allows a reload after dropping $5 at .5/1.. surely the min buyin for .5/1 isn't $5.. is it..?

ya sry.. didn't really think about that. I was thinking that 1/2 the min reload was 20, but recall that it is actually 10. Think the 20 is for 2/4

so no, its no the same, maybe half or something. But still, why is there a min at all ffs.

phantom_lord

lenny_leonard wrote:

Sklansky has an interesting take on buying in short in NLHETP. Basically, buy in short when you move up in stakes or when you're in an unfamiliar game, so that you cut down the cost of inevitable mistakes.

yeah, when I sit down in a live game where I don't recognise anyone I buy in short and wait a couple of orbits before topping up.

cardshark202

phantom_lord wrote:

yeah, when I sit down in a live game where I don't recognise anyone I buy in short and wait a couple of orbits before topping up.

Why would you do that?

phantom_lord

cardshark202 wrote:

Why would you do that?

not really much of an issue anymore, but when I first started off i prefered to get a handle on the game before playing with a full stack, couple of other reasons, I'd probably get it up to a playable stack anyway which reduces my exposure, and I look like a bit of a fish for buying in for 50bbs. but when it becomes clear most of them are idiots I make sure I have the table covered.

Imposter

Those guys that are saying to always buy-in for the max: How much do you buy -in for in a 1-2 live cash game with no maximum? Why?

If you say enough to cover the biggest stack then what if he has 10k in front of him?

Imo in todays online game you should try to have the max all the time but you can play with less once you adjust your thinking of how your opponents will view you. I've often lost a few pots and had say 40-50% of a buy-in and got paid off on the next hand i played because I hadn't a full buy-in. You just gotta use stack cleverly no matter how high or low it is. I'm not a fan of rebuying for 10-20% of a buy-in but will do a 50% rebuy when I feel any advantage I might have had with a smaller stack is gone.