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Swapping Houses???

  • 16-01-2007 9:45am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭


    I'm just looking for a tiny bit of advise. My mother in law is looking to swap houses with myself and my husband. Herself and her husbands house is much bigger than ours and as I have a growing family it makes sense to swap.

    Should it be executed as a straight forward sale between us or what do I have to do legally - ie will I have to pay stamp duty etc?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Mitzy


    If you are going to do it as a formal legal arrangement then you will both have to pay stamp duty, however as technically your husband is buying from his mother then the stamp duty will be halved. In this case though you will not be able to go on the title deeds of the house for (i think) 5 years.
    Otherwise if you simply swap houses there will be no stamp duty payable but it leaves you in a tricky situation should anything happen further down the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    In order for anybody to prove their ownership of a property, it's pretty much essential that the necessary transfer (in this case from A to B and from B to A) would *at least* go past the revenue commissioners and be stamped at whatever the rate is; in other words, neither the registry of deeds or the Land Registry (depending on the systems the house(s) are on) will accept them.

    Of course if either A or B in the future decided to sell their dwelling in the future, it'd be a lot easier if they were the registered owner.

    This isn't legal advice, per se, more common sense than owt else; if there's a hit to take on tax, then however unpalatable it is, it makes more sense to take it on the chin *now* than to defer it to the future where surcharges and such like might make their presence felt. It's quite possible that a purchaser in the future would demand (rightfully) that there are no tax issues affecting the property and thus both parties would do well to be fair and square ASAP.

    to the OP, and in concurrence with Mitzy, it'd seem that stamp duty will figure, unless you're moving into a terribly small house...the smart thign to do would be that your husband should get the house from his mum and pay 1/2 the rate of stamp duty on the entire value and *THEN* transfer half that interest to his spouse, upon which transaction there's NO stamp duty. It takes longer, but it's better than paying full stamp duty on half the value of the house and half rate on the other half...

    all that, btw, is perfectly legal...it's not even a loophole!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Mitzy wrote:
    In this case though you will not be able to go on the title deeds of the house for (i think) 5 years.
    Family Home Protection act should take care of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Does the mother pay full duty on the other house. Seems strange that any stamp duty applies. To me at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    BostonB wrote:
    Does the mother pay full duty on the other house. Seems strange that any stamp duty applies. To me at least.
    Stmap duty is a transaction charge, so it applies.

    Of course youc ould just swap houses (assuming no money is changing hands).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    BostonB wrote:
    Does the mother pay full duty on the other house. Seems strange that any stamp duty applies. To me at least.
    Stamp duty is a transaction charge, so it applies.

    Of course you could just swap houses (assuming no money is changing hands).


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