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MTT Hand..how do you play it?

  • 15-01-2007 2:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭


    MTT 45 players left, and 45 get paid. I'm 10th in Chips before play starts and 3 of the top 10 stacks are on my table.

    Blinds are 1500/3000 and I've 56,000 at the start of the hand. I'm on the button with 66

    One limper (52K) and Hero limps. SB (18.7K) completes and BB(65k) checks.

    Pot : 12K
    Flop : 6h 7d Ad

    SB checks
    BB bets 6K
    Limper calls 6K
    Hero raises to 20K
    SB folds
    BB calls 14K
    Limper calls 14K

    Pot: 72K
    Turn : 3c

    BB checks
    Limper goes all-in for 29K

    Hero has 33K left behind, push or fold?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I'm shipping it. I'd probably raise pf too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    I think I prefer limping to raising preflop you have position after the flop and a hand that if you hit your set can lead to you winning a huge pot.

    push now and pray for no diamond


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I'd raise preflop and now i reckon i'd ship it in, but I'd be making sure that the board pairs on the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Id have shipped it in on the flop. It is a very draw heavy board - one of which may have potentially hit. If ppl want to catch draws I make them pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭gocall01


    Id have shipped it in on the flop. It is a very draw heavy board - one of which may have potentially hit. If ppl want to catch draws I make them pay for it.

    ditto defo!
    Taking it down here adds 21k to your stack.
    If you get a caller on the nut flush/flush draw, he has made the mistake although he may hit it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    methinks someone doesn't want to post in the bad beat forum ;) set over set maybe ?

    i still push every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    allinallinallinallinallin

    But I probably shove flop or at least raise more. Preflop limp is fine, though if you had any reads on the limper it might be a clear limp or clear raise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    No prob with limp.
    Yes I think more\shove on flop.
    77 or 4d5d?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    My thought process as I played through the hand

    Preflop

    I've a low medium pair and position, I can flat call or raise here. If I flat call I'm in great position to take a large pot and maybe stack someone post-flop.

    If I raise and everyone folds, I get a much smaller return, If I raise and get called I'm in trouble on a hell of a lot of flops..

    Flat call and hope to get everything in if I hit a set or fold if not seemed the better plan.

    Flop

    Hit my set and there's a bet and a call into me, I'm not folding, so that leaves call, raise or push.

    call gives me no information at all, and negates the point of playing for a set in the first place.

    I think pushing takes away Ax here and a flush draw. I want both of them in, maybe it's a greedy attitude but if they have those hands I'm ahead here and I want to maximise that. I felt that raising 14K would keep them in and then I can push on a non-diamond/A turn.

    I think if I push that turn they fold their flush draw and certainly Ax. That means that their effective odds are cut in half (presuming they will fold of course, possibly optimistic thinking on my part) thoughts?

    I also think I've left myself enough to fold on a bad turn card, albeit I'll be kicking myself afterwards.

    Turn

    What I thought was a good turn card now has me confused, what's Player B pushing with? Is he really limping for 15% of his stack with 45s preflop from mid position? Or is he trying to buy the pot/semi-bluff his flush draw?

    So that's where my head was on this hand...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭delanec8


    Very easy push! I like the limp here aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭shaydy


    Push.

    I think you played it more or less ok, the only thing id change the way you played the hand is to raise a little more on the flop.
    Id be worried about the bb here but he could easily have two pair here and be looking to stack Ax


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kebabfest


    your logic is fine apart from the part of wanting them both in on the flop.
    With both in on the flop the likelihood of one of them hiting on the turn is substantially higher.
    On the flop an all-in makes sense. Let the other lads make the mistakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    As it played out I pushed and the bb instacalled

    Hero 66
    BB 77
    MP A3

    river was a blank and BB took the hand down. I think given the hands that were there I was losing my stack to the BB anyway, but MP may have folded to a push on the flop.

    My real consideration, and reason for posting the hand was to explain my thought process around why I wanted to keep them in the hand, and to get comments on the merits/ demerits of that based on them having Ax/two pair or a flush draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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