DJ's in Ireland. Hip-hop...

Elias38

Hi! I'm russian, so excuse me for my english... I'm just wondering about the music and stuff here. I'm a newbie Dj just getting started, i play dancehall hip-hop, some good r'n'b and i'm going to try to play in the club somewhere but before it i'd like to know more about how people perceive a rap music in Ireland particular in small towns like killarney for example? Is it possible to play all night hip-hop music without mixing any shi..ty pop songs?? Any djs here?

Also if somebody wishes to make mixtape aong with russian rap group just let me know. I know u will understand nothing in russian... i'll translate I've a group here in ireland... peace!

JoeSchmoe

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shane86

Elias38 wrote:

Hi! i'd like to know more about how people perceive a rap music in Ireland particular in small towns like killarney for example? Is it possible to play all night hip-hop music without mixing any shi..ty pop songs?? Any djs here?

In a word, No.

Unfortunately hip hop simply is not big outside the main towns and cities in Ireland. While in Dublin generally a majority of people would be into it to some degree, in the country your talking as low as maybe 10% properly clued up (most people down there would have an Eminem, 50 and Tupac CD or two, but if your talking early 90s New York, G Funk, newer stuff etc etc as said its a small minority that would have even heard this stuff). People in the country are usually divided in two groups- you have those who like bland, middle of the road stuff like Coldplay, the Chillis etc, then those who like really poor quality dance music ( I like dance, but the taste among the folk down there is brutal.)

Orizio

shane86 wrote:

In a word, No.

Unfortunately hip hop simply is not big outside the main towns and cities in Ireland. While in Dublin generally a majority of people would be into it to some degree, in the country your talking as low as maybe 10% properly clued up (most people down there would have an Eminem, 50 and Tupac CD or two, but if your talking early 90s New York, G Funk, newer stuff etc etc as said its a small minority that would have even heard this stuff). People in the country are usually divided in two groups- you have those who like bland, middle of the road stuff like Coldplay, the Chillis etc, then those who like really poor quality dance music ( I like dance, but the taste among the folk down there is brutal.)

Well I certainly wouldn't mistake you for a city boy considering that unbiased and highly objective post...:rolleyes:

My experience is that the average Irish person's taste in music sucks or tends to be of the generic MTV based type, wherever they are from.There is absolutely no reason to think that being from the country or the city means you will have superoir/inferior music tastes.

shane86

Orizio wrote:

Well I certainly wouldn't mistake you for a city boy considering that unbiased and highly objective post...:rolleyes:

My experience is that the average Irish person's taste in music sucks or tends to be of the generic MTV based type, wherever they are from.There is absolutely no reason to think that being from the country or the city means you will have superoir/inferior music tastes.

Actually, like quite a few people born in Dublin I spent much of my life growing up in the country after we moved, counting the days until I could return to the homeland. So I think I am rather qualified to say that in my old class there was probably two other proper hip hop heads, with the rest either mid- roaders, fans of pikey dance (think Irish Clubland comps, you get the idea) or rockers.

Many of my best mates are from the country but jaysus, some of em have fairly bland taste,

Seaneh

your discription could be anywhere, dublin, cork, galway or some village in leitrim, nothing to do with geography, just the fact that it's what irish people are exposed to, dubliners dont have a superior taste in music, there are just more of them and places for the comunity to gather, percentage wise there are no more hiphop heads in dublin than anywhere else in the country.

Orizio

shane86 wrote:

Actually, like quite a few people born in Dublin I spent much of my life growing up in the country after we moved, counting the days until I could return to the homeland. So I think I am rather qualified to say that in my old class there was probably two other proper hip hop heads, with the rest either mid- roaders, fans of pikey dance (think Irish Clubland comps, you get the idea) or rockers.

Many of my best mates are from the country but jaysus, some of em have fairly bland taste,

Basically I've lived in the country most of my life, but I've gone to school in Cork city for three years.Absolutely no difference between the country and the city imo - the clearer differences seem to be between gender and age.Roughly I would say male teenagers prefer Rock/Metal(RHCP and Metallica)and the girls tend to go for something they can dance to.The older they get the more sophisticated their tastes get.Realise I went to a Christian Brothers for 4 years and then a private city school for two and I saw absolutely no difference in music tastes.

I knew very few Hip-Hoppers until I went to college, and even then Hip-Hop is something pretty much frowned down on.

Such is my experience, I see no reason to think musical tastes change due to your geography.

shane86

I dunno, in my college course most people were from Dublin, there was certainly more hip hop interest among the lads from Blanch/Ballymun/Finglas etc than the south, though there were a few heads from there too. Mate of mine is in college on the southside, granted theres some people from the far south heavy into it (all males), jesus some of the women in his block are gorgeous but when it comes to house party music it relies on others bringing their CDs Even on Bebo *shakes fist* theres a clear difference under peoples Music sections between my country and city mates. In the country half the people in school I knew into it were either Dublin born or black- Ive been wracking my brains trying to think of a farm raised head I knew, and for whatever reason have had no luck.

Very slightly more popular among the townies down there, but even at that knack-dance is more common (I recall one night in a pub down there talking to some savage looking bird, I thought I was in love when without prompting she started complaining about the ****e they were playing and wishing theyd stick on a bit of Whats My Name, G Thang and Juicy Recalling seeing Snoop and Game in the Point, or that the best live act she saw was, like myself, Wu Tang at the 2004 "festival of which name we do not say on boards". She happened to mention after a few too many her 2 brothers were locked up on drug charges, which may go some way towards explaining her affiliation with early 90s NYC crack music ). On the whole though I unfortunately found hip hop a rare interest down there compared to Dublin.

Basically the original question was would a club in a country town playing pure hip hop get packed out. The answer is, sadly, probably not. Large town like Waterford etc, probably would.

Makaveli

A club playing nothing but Hip-Hop in Dublin probably wouldn't be packed either, and if it was it would unfortunately probably be full of knacks.

Hip-Hop penetration seems to greatly rely on Sky Digital and Internet access. That or you know someone who can get you the music to listen to. None of my non-college mates listen to Hip-Hop bar a bit of Lupe or Kanye. Some mates in college do, most don't. Only one listens to it as much as I would and he posts here.

Taking Bebo for example, look at the age and then look at the music. Nearly everybody the same age lists the same music. It's more of an age thing than a location thing.

kevri

I don't know about Killarney, but in Tralee they have Hip-Hop nights quite a bit, Rap Ireland & Frank Jez play there about once a month in the hip-hop room in Fabric and there'd be a good 300 people in there, and theyve had dj epps (g-unit) over recently as well as shortee blitz, westwood etc. but in general ya wouldnt get many all-hip-hop nites there.
in dublin the bigger hiphop clubs are usually packed, sin and vaults have a good 450 in every week, whereas spirit is now hiphop only on fridays and gets 900 in each week, about the same in radio city/cavern club on bank holiday sundays.
most clubs wont give more than a 45min slot during there nite to rnb and will only have hip-hop as part of a mix of pop, dance etc.