National Student Championship

yopnailbrush

Hi Carfax,

Can you please post the information required about the National Student Championship so we can clearly see exactly whats going on. Many things have changed over the past few weeks and the is way to much to read to get all info! Please keep this thread to Fact only as it would be great to have one with only correct info and not with a load of critics

Thanks

carfax

yopnailbrush wrote:

Hi Carfax,

Can you please post the information required about the National Student Championship so we can clearly see exactly whats going on. Many things have changed over the past few weeks and the is way to much to read to get all info! Please keep this thread to Fact only as it would be great to have one with only correct info and not with a load of critics

Thanks

Hi Yop,

Very good point.....I was getting very confused myself with all the different threads, but this tournament has been a bit of an unfolding drama for me.

The whole idea behind this tournament and the reason I wanted to run it (besides making a few quid) is that it;
(a) Offers students that would normally be used to a crap-shoot to compete in a really big tournament.
(b) To bring poker into the public domain a little bit more and try to make more people see that it is not a gamble and is a sport.
(c) Just for the hell of it.

Here's all the facts that I can think of right now.....This might get a bit longwinded;

1. The National Student Poker Championship 2007 takes place in the RDS, Concert Hall, Ballsbridge, D4 on January 27th. 888/Pacific Poker are sponsoring the event....[Blind structure (modelled off the WSOP), tournament rules and other details were posted here on boards as per charter and can be found now on www.pokerireland.ie in the NSPC 2007 tab].

2. Play will start at 12 noon sharp on Jan 27th but all players should be aware that we will not be able to take cash entries on the day and all players must register before Jan 25th through www.pokerireland.ie

3. Entry costs €72 (€65 + €7 registration fee) and this must be paid into your online Pacific Poker Account.
Paying money into Pacific is really easy and besides accepting credit/laser cards, ukash pre-paid vouchers and lots of other payment methods
Poker Ireland are also accepting cash registration before Jan 20th.

Ukash are prepaid vouchers that are sold in units of € 30 € 50 & € 100, and work just like mobile phone credit.
Ukash are sold in the following location in Dublin City-

SPAR LIFFEY ST
SPAR LR ABBEY ST
SUPER VALU ASTON QUAY
CENTRA CAMDEN ST
NO 8 BAGGOTT ST
SPAR ASHTOWN
LUCKY DUFFY PARNELL ST

....To pay with cash;
Lodge €80 into any Bank of Ireland.
Account Name; Tournament Poker Ireland Ltd.
Sort Code; 90 11 67
Account Number; 56106875
Once you lodge €80 - you need to reference the lodgement with your full name & keep the lodgement receipt - you need to email stephen@pokerireland.ie with your postal address and I will post you €80 worth of Ukash vouchers with instructions for online registration.


I will also be at lots of colleges over the course of the next two weeks taking cash for registrations and also physically registering players with my laptop.....If you would like me to call out to your college you can email or text/ring me.....Anywhere in Ireland, not just Dublin.

4. There are lots of bonuses included in this tournament, these are;
(a) All players receive a US$20 bonus once they lodge €72, click on 'Multi-table' and scroll down to register in the 'Irish National Student Poker Champs' - Jan 25th registration closes....The idea behind this bonus is so that players can have some extra money to play a bit of poker on Pacific.

(b) $1,000 last longer bonus for all players registered before Jan 14th (tomorrow at 12 midnight).....During the tournament the longest lasting player of all those registered before this time will receive $1,000......we will be doing our best not to let other players know who is involved in the last longest.

(c) $1,000 best overall college team bonus. See thread here on boards for details of the different colleges with teams involved.....Again we are going to do our best not to show who is on a team and who is not.

5. If we get the support of all the Dublin colleges (I'm looking at Trinity and UCD here) we will easily get 400 players for this event. All of the college poker society heads around the country have given me huge amounts of support (both moral and through telling players about it) so I really hope this continues.
This tournament will be fully dealer dealt, 100% prize-pool payout and I hope it runs in an extremely professional and smooth manner. 90% of the dealers there will be highly experienced......Go easy on the other 10%.

6. I will be tournament director and any ruling I make will be in the interest of the game but it will also be final.

Hope you all can make it on the 27th.

I have put an awful lot of work into this so far but I also have to give a lot of thanks to other tournament organisers that have been and are helping me out a lot including; JJP PokerMania, VegasNights, The Merrion/Jackpot are just a few that have all helped out in a big way and lots of other casinos have been promoting the event too.

Stephen Mc Lean.
087 24 24 626
stephen@pokerireland.ie

gerry87

On pacific poker it says $72 to register, if we register will it take $72 or $94 (€72) from our accounts?

Hawk Eye

gerry87 wrote:

On pacific poker it says $72 to register, if we register will it take $72 or $94 (€72) from our accounts?

It will take $72 but make sure you deposit a min of $92 as you won't be able to register otherwise.

gerry87

Hawk Eye wrote:

It will take $72 but make sure you deposit a min of $92 as you won't be able to register otherwise.

when does it take the rest? I've registered now, and it took the 72. If i spend the other 20 will it unregister me?

shoutman

no it wont, the twenty is suppose to be so you will play on their site, that way you will become addicted to poker and eventually they will repossess your house. DUH!

gerry87

so is this a €72 or a $72(€55) tournament? Just checking, not complaining!

shoutman

its €72 in the prizepool, ie for every one person who registers and pays €72 is going into the prize pool, however you pay only $72 and pacific pker pay the extra money to convert the $72 to €72, this is an incentive to play on their site.

cooker3

Hawk Eye wrote:

It will take $72 but make sure you deposit a min of $92 as you won't be able to register otherwise.

Hmmn well I registered and deposited exactly $72 on the site and it worked fine for me.

carfax

gerry87 wrote:

so is this a €72 or a $72(€55) tournament? Just checking, not complaining!

No worries,
Its a €65 + €7 reg tournament. e.g. 400 players means a €26,000 prizepool....its being bumped up by Pacific.

The idea is you lodge $92, pay $72 in and try out Pacific Poker with the remaining $20.

carfax

cooker3 wrote:

Hmmn well I registered and deposited exactly $72 on the site and it worked fine for me.

Quiet you.

gerry87

shoutman wrote:

its €72 in the prizepool, ie for every one person who registers and pays €72 is going into the prize pool, however you pay only $72 and pacific pker pay the extra money to convert the $72 to €72, this is an incentive to play on their site.

i see... so we're paying €55 into a €72 tournament?? nice

carfax

carfax wrote:

Quiet you.

Was only joking there Cooker, obviously.

Should mention though that it is a term of entry that you lodge US$92 onto your account even though you're only paying US$72 to play - (this gets confusing with all the conversions).

Pacific could call you (or more likely me) up on it.

cooker3

carfax wrote:

Was only joking there Cooker, obviously.

Should mention though that it is a term of entry that you lodge US$92 onto your account even though you're only paying US$72 to play - (this gets confusing with all the conversions).

Pacific could call you (or more likely me) up on it.

It's funny in the 5 million threads that I have read on this that I managed to miss this. Ah well if they just contact you then I don't have to worry about it

carfax

cooker3 wrote:

It's funny in the 5 million threads that I have read on this that I managed to miss this. Ah well if they just contact you then I don't have to worry about it

That is funny.

Mellor

Two weeks to go and 60 players, fingers out lads
anyway, 888 raped me today, ran into house into quads, set of jacks with ace kicker into a house, and 9 10 J Q A flush into the Royal. I hate cash.

On the other hand, the tourney games are nicer. started with the cheapest feeder i could find, got through to the sub-satalite, just came 12th for a ticket in the satalite, and now im in the Irish open quailifer starting in 2 hours.

The crap will be shot.

carfax

If you're in UCD or Trinity can you please contact your poker society people.

I've been in contact with them but can't seem to get anywhere with them. If lots of players start getting on to them I'm sure they would do a bit of work.

All it would take is one quick group email telling players about the Student Champs' and asking them to visit www.pokerireland.ie to register before Jan 25th.

Lots of UCD and Trinity players are going to miss out on the $1,000 last longer bonus because they don't know about the tournament yet but they should all be at least told that the tournament is on in the RDS on Jan 27th.

GoodLuck2Me lives on campus in UCD (PM him he won't mind) and has loads of flyers and Trinity also have flyers which I hope students can see around the campus.

We should get at least 100 players from UCD especially because its only down the road from the RDS and Trinity should have a similar number of players.....I'm happy to call out to both colleges once there are a few players that want me to help them to register.

I know at the moment that the very least amount of players we are going to have for this tournament is 250 and it could well go over 400 even without a majority of UCD/Trinity players involved.......

I just want to get the maximum number of players possible (we're not really capping it and if 600 players or more want to play we will accomodate them) to make this a real National Tournament that we can hold every year and get even better promotional and player value as it grows.

yopnailbrush

carfax wrote:

Hi Yop,

Very good point.....I was getting very confused myself with all the different threads, but this tournament has been a bit of an unfolding drama for me.

The whole idea behind this tournament and the reason I wanted to run it (besides making a few quid) is that it;
(a) Offers students that would normally be used to a crap-shoot to compete in a really big tournament.
(b) To bring poker into the public domain a little bit more and try to make more people see that it is not a gamble and is a sport.
(c) Just for the hell of it.

Here's all the facts that I can think of right now.....This might get a bit longwinded;

1. The National Student Poker Championship 2007 takes place in the RDS, Concert Hall, Ballsbridge, D4 on January 27th. 888/Pacific Poker are sponsoring the event....[Blind structure (modelled off the WSOP), tournament rules and other details were posted here on boards as per charter and can be found now on www.pokerireland.ie in the NSPC 2007 tab].

2. Play will start at 12 noon sharp on Jan 27th but all players should be aware that we will not be able to take cash entries on the day and all players must register before Jan 25th through www.pokerireland.ie

3. Entry costs €72 (€65 + €7 registration fee) and this must be paid into your online Pacific Poker Account.
Paying money into Pacific is really easy and besides accepting credit/laser cards, ukash pre-paid vouchers and lots of other payment methods
Poker Ireland are also accepting cash registration before Jan 20th.

Ukash are prepaid vouchers that are sold in units of € 30 € 50 & € 100, and work just like mobile phone credit.
Ukash are sold in the following location in Dublin City-

SPAR LIFFEY ST
SPAR LR ABBEY ST
SUPER VALU ASTON QUAY
CENTRA CAMDEN ST
NO 8 BAGGOTT ST
SPAR ASHTOWN
LUCKY DUFFY PARNELL ST

....To pay with cash;
Lodge €80 into any Bank of Ireland.
Account Name; Tournament Poker Ireland Ltd.
Sort Code; 90 11 67
Account Number; 56106875
Once you lodge €80 - you need to reference the lodgement with your full name & keep the lodgement receipt - you need to email stephen@pokerireland.ie with your postal address and I will post you €80 worth of Ukash vouchers with instructions for online registration.


I will also be at lots of colleges over the course of the next two weeks taking cash for registrations and also physically registering players with my laptop.....If you would like me to call out to your college you can email or text/ring me.....Anywhere in Ireland, not just Dublin.

4. There are lots of bonuses included in this tournament, these are;
(a) All players receive a US$20 bonus once they lodge €72, click on 'Multi-table' and scroll down to register in the 'Irish National Student Poker Champs' - Jan 25th registration closes....The idea behind this bonus is so that players can have some extra money to play a bit of poker on Pacific.

(b) $1,000 last longer bonus for all players registered before Jan 14th (tomorrow at 12 midnight).....During the tournament the longest lasting player of all those registered before this time will receive $1,000......we will be doing our best not to let other players know who is involved in the last longest.

(c) $1,000 best overall college team bonus. See thread here on boards for details of the different colleges with teams involved.....Again we are going to do our best not to show who is on a team and who is not.

5. If we get the support of all the Dublin colleges (I'm looking at Trinity and UCD here) we will easily get 400 players for this event. All of the college poker society heads around the country have given me huge amounts of support (both moral and through telling players about it) so I really hope this continues.
This tournament will be fully dealer dealt, 100% prize-pool payout and I hope it runs in an extremely professional and smooth manner. 90% of the dealers there will be highly experienced......Go easy on the other 10%.

6. I will be tournament director and any ruling I make will be in the interest of the game but it will also be final.

Hope you all can make it on the 27th.

I have put an awful lot of work into this so far but I also have to give a lot of thanks to other tournament organisers that have been and are helping me out a lot including; JJP PokerMania, VegasNights, The Merrion/Jackpot are just a few that have all helped out in a big way and lots of other casinos have been promoting the event too.

Stephen Mc Lean.
087 24 24 626
stephen@pokerireland.ie

Thanks Stephen,

How long will the blinds be? Hour long?
Is it a one/two/three day tournament? what time finish is expected?
Will payment be in cash? what 10% of players get paid?
Food provided at the breaks? If not what arrangements are in place to feed and water the players?
Which part of the RDS will it be played??

Thanks

Mellor

yopnailbrush wrote:

How long will the blinds be? Hour long? 45 mins, unless entrants are low, then maybe stephen might give us an hour
Is it a one/two/three day tournament? 2 Day
what time finish is expected? sunday evening
Will payment be in cash? To Pacific account, can withdraw straight away
what 10% of players get paid? Around 10%, payout structure on pokerireland.ie
Food provided at the breaks?
If not what arrangements are in place to feed and water the players? There will be he usual RDS food stands there, burgers chips pizza etc
Which part of the RDS will it be played?? The concert hall

Thanks

Hope I got it all right carfax
And yopnailbrush, all this infor and more is on the website, it covers everything you could ask. rules, payout, blinds structure

carfax

Mellor wrote:

Hope I got it all right carfax
And yopnailbrush, all this infor and more is on the website, it covers everything you could ask. rules, payout, blinds structure

Everything right Mellor just that the blinds will be 40 minutes (subject to 400 players)......If we only get say 200 players (which is looking like worst case scenario right now) I will increase the time frames to about an hour......Point is that I will be trying my best to bring back the final 9 players for day two and will work out the blind time frames when registration closes.

Hope the earlier post helped Yop;
Everything is listed on http://www.pokerireland.ie/index.php/nspc/ except for the food thing which I will get up there as soon as I get a chance.

Players will have to buy their own food on the day and we will have people serving drinks (which will have to be paid for too)......

I should also mention that although the dealers will be getting paid above average (they are all going to be top quality people) we will probably be asking (with no obligation) for players to leave a euro or two in a box at the registration desk for dealers tips.....All winnings are being paid online so we therefore don't expect the winning players to leave any tips.....Not that we would ever expect it of anyone but just if the winner happens to be a nice person they might find it hard to tip when they are not getting the cold cash in their hand on that very day.

shoutman

carfax wrote:

I should also mention that although the dealers will be getting paid above average (they are all going to be top quality people) we will probably be asking (with no obligation) for players to leave a euro or two in a box at the registration desk for dealers tips.....All winnings are being paid online so we therefore don't expect the winning players to leave any tips.....Not that we would ever expect it of anyone but just if the winner happens to be a nice person they might find it hard to tip when they are not getting the cold cash in their hand on that very day.

That is more then fair Stephen, i'd say its one of the most annoying things for dealers is when they find out the winner isnt being paid there and then, or else if they are playing for tickets or something.

Fair play.

carfax

shoutman wrote:

That is more then fair Stephen, i'd say its one of the most annoying things for dealers is when they find out the winner isnt being paid there and then, or else if they are playing for tickets or something.

Fair play.

Cheers man,

I must send around a group email letting players know about this (once registration closes of course and there is no escape).....

Just one quick reminder for anyone that is reading about the Student Champs' here for the first time......All players that register before 12 midnight tonight are eligible for a $1,000 last longer bonus. Theoretically as it is right now you could still finish 320th of 400 runners and get yourself a grand.....For details click on the link below.......

The Clamper

shouldnt that be 317th ??

carfax

The Clamper wrote:

shouldnt that be 317th ??

No it shouldn't be 317th.......There are actually more than 83 players in the last longer as you know Clamper......


For anyone thats involved in the last longer bonus we'll publish a full list of usernames later today.....I think its only fair as there were 8 or 9 players that were trying for a good week to get registered but because of the way the tournament is set up on Pacific couldn't do so.....Still great value with only 90 of probably 400 in for the $1,000 imo.

LuckyLloyd

carfax wrote:

Still great value with only 90 of probably 400 in for the $1,000 imo.

For me. Yes, it will be a nice extra $1,000.

phantom_lord

LuckyLloyd wrote:

For me. Yes, it will be a nice extra $1,000.

lol. those ranking points really went to your head

shoutman

Lloyd you want to swap percentages for NSPC too, or how about a little side last longer between the two of us? €100?

LuckyLloyd

shoutman wrote:

Lloyd you want to swap percentages for NSPC too, or how about a little side last longer between the two of us? €100?

Swap 10%?

shoutman

sure why not, unless either of us go very deep it wont be much, I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a wild prediction, me, Phantom Lord and Lloyd to playing three handed however the three handedness will last for severel days and severel nights with blinds ever increasing and people constantly doubling up via the chip leader at that time, finally with exactly 5bb left we all get it in preflop, Lloyd went all in from the dealer button quickly called by myself in small blind with Phantom lord calling(some might say slow rolling but i disagree there was a decision to make) after about twenty seconds. L Dog doesnt look happy turning over his suited AK, I look indifferent with KK fearing the worst from after me, P L turns over AA and myself and Lloyd are in a world of pain... With the flop coming down QJ10 Lloyd slams his fist on the table and makes that angry face he makes. However the case king on the turn gives P L ties the pot with Lloyd giving him further outs to take the pot, and ultimately the title, I am left drawing to the case ace, but shockingly it comes out on the river Leaving the board AKQJ10 with no possible end in sight.

Carfax and the rest of the poker ireland crew decide that it is becoming a bit of a crapshoot, something no one wanted it to be, and therefor decides to reset the blinds back to 25/50 with the average stack being well above 100k.

We go on to play three handed for 19 years and are largely forgot about.....

Mellor

shoutman wrote:

sure why not, unless either of us go very deep it wont be much, I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a wild prediction, me, Phantom Lord and Lloyd to playing three handed however the three handedness will last for severel days and severel nights with blinds ever increasing and people constantly doubling up via the chip leader at that time, finally with exactly 5bb left we all get it in preflop, Lloyd went all in from the dealer button quickly called by myself in small blind with Phantom lord calling(some might say slow rolling but i disagree there was a decision to make) after about twenty seconds. L Dog doesnt look happy turning over his suited AK, I look indifferent with KK fearing the worst from after me, P L turns over AA and myself and Lloyd are in a world of pain... With the flop coming down QJ10 Lloyd slams his fist on the table and makes that angry face he makes. However the case king on the turn gives P L ties the pot with Lloyd giving him further outs to take the pot, and ultimately the title, I am left drawing to the case ace, but shockingly it comes out on the river Leaving the board AKQJ10 with no possible end in sight.

Carfax and the rest of the poker ireland crew decide that it is becoming a bit of a crapshoot, something no one wanted it to be, and therefor decides to reset the blinds back to 25/50 with the average stack being well above 100k.

We go on to play three handed for 19 years and are largely forgot about.....

Shame, if a Queen, Jack or Ten came on the river you would of taken it with a full house

The Clamper

if either of you 2 make the final 9, i will personally give you €72:cool:

The Clamper

oh yeah and i will be expecting you to bet me at least 0.50 cents on this
i.e. 142/1
now they aint bad odds, considering how much you guys talk such a great game:cool:

carfax

We just reached 100 players officially registered for the Student Champs'......I know that an awful lot of players have had problems registering but all those problems will stop from tomo morning.....And I can assure you that any student that wants to play in this tournament can......stephen@pokerireland.ie for any questions, problems or if you just want someone to talk to.

Keep the registrations coming peops.....10 days to go until Jan 27th but registration closes on Jan 25th.

The minimum number of players that we will have (as it stands right now) is 250 but if college socs support this event (and make their players play or else) we will get close to if not more than 400 and a prizepool of €26,000......

LuckyLloyd

The Clamper wrote:

if either of you 2 make the final 9, i will personally give you €72:cool:

Cheers.

carfax

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Cheers.

Make sure you hold theclamper to that Lloyd.....Its in writing here and the reputation of pokerireland.ie is on the line now, hee hee....

Legend_DIT

Thanks Stephen for sorting my registration out... Hope you had an enjoyable visit to an Aungier St. crapshoot!

carfax

Legend_DIT wrote:

Thanks Stephen for sorting my registration out... Hope you had an enjoyable visit to an Aungier St. crapshoot!

It was as good as ever and I threw my chips away as always.....Hope one of the DIT crew goes deep in the student champs' now

smartblaa

Hi Stephen,
Just wondering if you can confirm that i'm in the €1000 last longer.
My username is Smartbla . Those F**kers wouldn't allow the extra letter in my username..humbug!

Marq

Realistically, what are the chances of this tournament having 400 players?
I'd like to play but as I'd have to take a night of work I won't be doing so unless there are 200 regged by the 25th.

Tar.Aldarion

carfax wrote:

For anyone thats involved in the last longer bonus we'll publish a full list of usernames later today.

Where is that published?

Mellor

There is a good chance you wont make it to the night, could be home for dinner.

carfax

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Where is that published?

Haven't published it yet mate but don't worry all in good time (just haven't had a second for the last week or so).......

I did have a minute to read this though......I like Blondepoker..... http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/6921

sikes

carfax wrote:

Haven't published it yet mate but don't worry all in good time (just haven't had a second for the last week or so).......

I did have a minute to read this though......I like Blondepoker..... http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/6921

hey stephen, there is no interest in tcd at all for this. never got an email from the card soc advertising it and no one i talked to has heard about it. i dont know any of the card soc/poker players, im sure they exist though.

anyway, ill see you on sat week.

carfax

sikes wrote:

hey stephen, there is no interest in tcd at all for this. never got an email from the card soc advertising it and no one i talked to has heard about it. i dont know any of the card soc/poker players, im sure they exist though.

anyway, ill see you on sat week.

Thanks for the heads up Sikes....I really have done my best to get the word around and Richard W has posted all the details of their satellite this Monday here on boards.....He has just taken over as treasurer of the Trinity soc and I'm sure he'll send out a text/email tomo if he can......Duke might be able to send out a text to all the student members of the Jackpot too.....

sikes

ah, ok well i am still willing to get the team together if we can find players

carfax

sikes wrote:

ah, ok well i am still willing to get the team together if we can find players

Yes please do.

sikes

carfax wrote:

Yes please do.

i play football on mondays, so i wont be able to make it to the tourney. myself and wreck from boards are on the team! thats it. so if you can get 4 people on monday that'd be class.

phantom_lord

did conor get back to you about a dcu team?

carfax

phantom_lord wrote:

did conor get back to you about a dcu team?

Not yet, I'm sure he's busy with exams.....Would like to get the team names up as soon as possible though.....





I'm just having one of those few minutes where I'm getting really worried.....Over 250 players have emailed me saying they wanted to play and lots more are contacting me now but only 113 have officially registered so far.......Does this add up?

I know the event is still over a week away but please register soon it will make the days between now and the tournament a little less stressful.

Trippie

dont worry ste i presume you will get more registered in the jackpot tomorrow and the colleges are back next week so the the advertising in colleges will pay off as a lot more people will be around

carfax

Trippie wrote:

dont worry ste i presume you will get more registered in the jackpot tomorrow and the colleges are back next week so the the advertising in colleges will pay off as a lot more people will be around

Oh yeah, lol......forgot about that.