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working in aldi

  • 11-01-2007 12:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭


    has anyone here ever worked in aldi- or anyone that does ATM

    ive been offered a job there-But i have been told by a lot of people that its paid once a month and your only guarnteed 15 hours a week even though your told you will get more(As i was told in the interview) I asked in the interview about the monthly pay and they said its every week-But a girl i know who worked there told me she was told that too - and then after she started they said it was every month

    Can anyone shed some light on this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Moved from AH, best here I think. Throw it back to me if it is in the wrong schpot mods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    I work in Lidl. Aldi work the same way as Lidl at everything else so it's probably the same for this. When I started I was contracted to 10 hours a week. but got much more. It generally goes by how hard-working you are. If your a fella and go to work packing in the morning (only guys do this in Lidl coz lots of heavy lifting, etc) you might get up to fifty hours. Everyone else it varies sometimes over 30, sometimes 20. This presumably varies a lot from store-to-store so its definately unpredictable.But you will get much more than your contracted hours. The problem is that they pay you once a month and anything you work over your contracted hours is a month behind. So if you start in January you'll get paid your contracted hours at the end of January but any additional hours worked will be paid end of February along with the contract hours for that month. Any additional hours in February are paid end of March and so on. You also get **** all breaks. The good news is that the pay per hour is very good, much better than other supermarkets.

    I'd be surprised if they'd lie in the interview however. I was told the situation from the start, albeit I didn't fully understand what they meant till I started getting paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭memphis


    I'm a store assistant with Aldi, and yes you are paid monthly! Also you will only get your basic wages for the first month, which means it'll be the following month before you get paid an overtime you did in the first month. Put another way, say you start working in Jan and do 10 hours overtime, well your first pay will not include that 10 hours overtime, this 10 hours overtime will be paid to you the following month i.e. Feb, with the basic hours you worked in Feb. So then in March your wages will be your basic wages for March along with any overtime due from Feb... Hope that makes sense.

    They certainly have a complicated way of paying people, and the first month is the toughest financially, but the pay is good all the same. The basic hours per week are 15-30 hours depending on what suits you. As I'm a full time student I only work 15 hours basic per week in Aldi.

    If you have any further question regarding the job don't hesitate to PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Flat


    that pay system sucks, the pay and conditions all sound pretty good but they screw you badly on the month arrears thing

    thats really really low in fact, but its pretty smart on their part; any stock you put out on display that sells they get the cash in their pockets immediately but dont have to pay your wages for 2 months over the 15 hours contracted a week, so they never have cash flow problems!

    shame on you ALdi and Lidl, thats really exploiting people


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Flat wrote:
    that pay system sucks, the pay and conditions all sound pretty good but they screw you badly on the month arrears thing

    shame on you ALdi and Lidl, thats really exploiting people
    How about you get an idea how salaries work in bigger companies before you start to complain?

    First of all here is an generic monthly timeline for salaries:

    Day 1 - Salaries for that month payment are starting to be done. This includes checking any deductions/additions from previous month and including the scheduled hours for said month.
    Day 7 to 15 - Salaries are sent in for each site to the main office who make the payments. After this date NO ADDITIONS CAN BE DONE*!
    Day 15 to 22 - Salaries are added up from all centres into a master payment file that is sent to the bank.
    Day 25 - Money is sent to the bank for the salaries.
    Day 31 - Salaries are paid.

    The problem that you missed is that the overtime each person does is not known in advance and can therefor not be paid out in advance and have to wait until the following month.

    * Depending on system you might get one week for adding people leaving the company, and yes that means if someone leaves after said date they get a full months pay instead of their actual leaving date (assuming short notice).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Flat


    Nody wrote:
    How about you get an idea how salaries work in bigger companies before you start to complain?

    First of all here is an generic monthly timeline for salaries:

    Day 1 - Salaries for that month payment are starting to be done. This includes checking any deductions/additions from previous month and including the scheduled hours for said month.
    Day 7 to 15 - Salaries are sent in for each site to the main office who make the payments. After this date NO ADDITIONS CAN BE DONE*!
    Day 15 to 22 - Salaries are added up from all centres into a master payment file that is sent to the bank.
    Day 25 - Money is sent to the bank for the salaries.
    Day 31 - Salaries are paid.

    The problem that you missed is that the overtime each person does is not known in advance and can therefor not be paid out in advance and have to wait until the following month.

    * Depending on system you might get one week for adding people leaving the company, and yes that means if someone leaves after said date they get a full months pay instead of their actual leaving date (assuming short notice).

    Nody... why do they put you on a 15 hour contract, when they are absolutely going to give you more hours...

    that is cynical in the extreme, whatever you work over those hours you wont get for 2 months.

    Get out a business book and look up 'working capital' and you will understand why they are doing this, its really very clever. But it exploits anyone and everyone who works in these jobs, I mean these guys have bills to pay, food to buy etc, wtf should they wait 2 months to get paid??

    If nothing else, every business understands and respects the rights of its employees to get paid on a timely basis and in full, Aldi and Lidl are ****ing with this to the extreme by the sounds of it

    no-one cares about the back office process by the way, you either pay your employees what they are due on time or you dont


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Flat wrote:
    Nody... why do they put you on a 15 hour contract, when they are absolutely going to give you more hours...
    Because they don't know exactly how many hours they will need for said week and need the flexability of overtime. So rather be on the safe side by not hiring in to many people they sign up for low hours and offer overtime. Same goes in many other countries as well (try to get a 40h contract in Spain for example or heck try to get a contract beyond 1 year!).
    that is cynical in the extreme, whatever you work over those hours you wont get for 2 months.
    As noted above, because they don't know how many hours they need or that you're going to do. And it could also be 1 month and a day as well. Fun how we can play with words to make it look worse...
    But it exploits anyone and everyone who works in these jobs, I mean these guys have bills to pay, food to buy etc, wtf should they wait 2 months to get paid??
    How would you like to get a €200 check one month because you did not get the overtime expected the previous month so they deducted it from that months salary?
    If nothing else, every business understands and respects the rights of its employees to get paid on a timely basis and in full, Aldi and Lidl are ****ing with this to the extreme by the sounds of it
    No, no business I've ever heard of pays overtime or shift allowance in advance to anyone due to the fact they would risk having to deduct said money afterwards (and there are some legal implications here as well for deductions etc. which makes it a minefield to deduct afterwards).
    no-one cares about the back office process by the way, you either pay your employees what they are due on time or you dont
    Every employee is paid what they are due, you're complaining about the exact process of how and when it is done. The back office process is exactly why they are paid one month later to make sure they get the correct salary and don't risk ending up with a greatly lower salary one month due to lack of expected overtime and they are paid in due time as per their contract! The only thing you don't think is due is because they don't get it the same month, once again that is governed by the contract they signed and hence it is in due time as per contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 jacintaann


    working for aldi for 2 years.yes you get paid every month starting pay is now 9.40ph. You also get prod. bonus. We get between 1.50 and 2.00 an hour. Highly unlikely that you will ever get overtime. Would have to work 160 hours in the month approx to be entitled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    It doesn't sound that different to working with a 'week in hand', ie you are paid weekly but all your pay packets are a week late. It's also done by the fortnight, month etc. It's not really as bad as some people make it out to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭memphis


    jacintaann wrote:
    working for aldi for 2 years.yes you get paid every month starting pay is now 9.40ph. You also get prod. bonus. We get between 1.50 and 2.00 an hour. Highly unlikely that you will ever get overtime. Would have to work 160 hours in the month approx to be entitled.
    That's correct, but this €9.40 per hour will not take effect until you receive your pay at the end of February.

    Being honest, if it wasn't for the pay, I'd be gone outta Aldi long ago. I'm just not gonna find a weekend/part time job that pays as well an hour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    I dont work for Lidl / Aldi but I also get paid like that, by the month and any overtime is paid the month later. Only work 20 hours basic so any overtime is paid at the basic hourly rate unless you work over 40 hours in one week. The basic rate is great anyways so its no big deal. It sounds like a bad system but after the first month its ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭dame


    Take the job Bolliwoodi. Any job is better than no job and you can still keep looking for the job you really want.

    I'm not too impressed to see that a person who has been out of work for a while, did their Leaving Cert three years ago and has been on Fas since (read your post on interview in Personnal Issues Forum) could turn down a job that they've been offered. Once you have a job you can afford to be more choosy in picking the next one and at least to future employers you will look like someone with a bit of get up and go, who will work.

    Get off your backside and start work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭rediguana


    I worked for Harvey Nichols before and it was a similar system. Bonuses paid a month in arrears. It's not an unusual practice. As someone mentioned, it's just the first month that's hard, after that, does it make any difference if it's money earned one or two months ago?

    If there is a problem, it's that the link betweeen working hard and receiving overtime pay is weakened. Pay me in an hour's time for working this hour and it'll concentrate my mind more than if I won't see the very same money for two months.

    Behavioural Psychology would indicate that Aldi, for its own sake, would be better off making the payment system more transparent and immediate. I guess they've been long enough, though, to work out which is the most effecient method for their business.


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