Hapkido in Dublin

Freedomfighter

Im searching for a hapkido club in dublin around the dublin 9 area. any help please.

Quillo

As far as I know, the only Hapkido classes in/near Dublin are:

Chon-Tu Kwan/Combat Hapkido with Eugene McQuillan in Swords
http://www.combathapkidoireland.com/chi-1.html

and

Sin Moo Hapkido with Massan Ghorbani at Master's Temple in Bray
http://www.masterstemple.com/frameset.htm

Freedomfighter

Has anyone studied Hapkido. What are the main elements to this martial art. Ive heard good things about it, its an all round sort of self defence. I like the pressure points area about it but am a bit unsure. any help would be great

Roper

From what I know of it its a sort of pseudo-Aikido. Lots of wrist locks and stuff. From what some independent observers have told me its not as good as Aikido. As for it being a self defence art, I'm sure it would lay claim to that but tbh most of what I've seen of it is pretty impractical. Pressure points should be renamed as "sore places to hit" and it might remove some of the mysticism- every art has some form of that.


Besides, there are far greater things in Dublin 9, or right beside Dublin 9 ahem ahem look at my sig ahem:D

Quillo

While there is is still some debate as to the actual origins of HKD, it appears to be generally accepted that Choi Yong Sul brought some aspects of Daito Ryu back from his time with Takeda Sensei. These techniques were then blended with Korean leg techniques similar to those that went into TKD.

Sin Moo Hapkido is what Ji Han Jae developed from Choi's material.
Combat HKD appears to then have removed much of the rather acrobatic leg techniques and blended in some additional gound work.

MaeveD

No Hapkido in Swords anymore, Eugene has been gone from Coláiste Choilm since before Crimbo... and Hapkido finished up last summer, I think!

Why not head to Ropers club and see if you like what they do... might be hard to find though...it's in Phibsboro, Finglas, Glasnevin, Dublin 7, 9, & 11... must be a BIG club!!

Roper

MaeveD wrote:

Why not head to Ropers club and see if you like what they do... might be hard to find though...it's in Phibsboro, Finglas, Glasnevin, Dublin 7, 9, & 11... must be a BIG club!!

Ahem, I got confused about 7 and 11 ONCE! Will I ever live it down? And I said its beside D.9. Anyway, we like to call it "West Glasnevin" D.11, and outsiders like to call it "East Finglas" D.11.

MaeveD

Ahhh I was only slaggin Roper...

One of these days I'll figure out exactly where your club is... I must pass it at least 2 or 3 times a week

Roper

Just look for a large tripod outside (no its not me ha ha). The Scouts have three phone poles stuck together for some reason.

MaeveD

Ahhh ha... so you're in the Scout Hall!!!!

The tripod was for an aerial runway thingie that was there for years...

pma-ire

Roper wrote:

Pressure points should be renamed as "sore places to hit" and it might remove some of the mysticism- every art has some form of that.

Or "places/points that are sore when pressure/manipulation/impact is applied" I totally agree with you

pma-ire

Freedomfighter wrote:

Has anyone studied Hapkido. What are the main elements to this martial art. Ive heard good things about it, its an all round sort of self defence. I like the pressure points area about it but am a bit unsure. any help would be great

I trained with a HKD group of guys for about 2 years.

As with any MA it only practical when pressure tested and there was a fair bit of that going on in that club at the time!!

On the PP's front they did not really do much in that club. Though I know that HKD has some PP work in it.

I learnt much more about PP's from other sources, and in fact taught that club some points that they did not know about at the time.

SorGan

Roper wrote:

From what I know of it its a sort of pseudo-Aikido. Lots of wrist locks and stuff. From what some independent observers have told me its not as good as Aikido. As for it being a self defence art, I'm sure it would lay claim to that but tbh most of what I've seen of it is pretty impractical. Pressure points should be renamed as "sore places to hit" and it might remove some of the mysticism- every art has some form of that.


Besides, there are far greater things in Dublin 9, or right beside Dublin 9 ahem ahem look at my sig ahem:D

pressure point, no:1b = the face:D

Nothingcompares

Freedomfighter wrote:

Has anyone studied Hapkido. What are the main elements to this martial art. Ive heard good things about it, its an all round sort of self defence. I like the pressure points area about it but am a bit unsure. any help would be great

Where did you hear good things about it? The internet?

Valmont

I studied hapkido for two years at the masters temple. To be honest there are a few practical techniques.These are some of the most basic but as mentioned above the pressure points are mainly designed to get an attacker to release his hold to run away which may work but I have my doubts. And you advance towards the ubiquitious black belt, everything just gets sillier (knife, stick, multiple attacker defences , that sort of thing)

The one thing that people don't realise is hapkido has a large kicking curriculum which is total BS. I can't stress anymore how horrible, uneccessary and impractical they are, if I described some of them you would laugh.

So there is some positive sides to it but you would have to put up with a lot of BS to gain anything. I spent long enough at it and I honestly think you would be better off doing something else. It sound a lot cooler than it really is, believe me.

pma-ire

From my experience HKD only applies PP's with grabing or poking motions!?

They don't really use strikes to apply them and loose some of the usefullness in studying them (IMO). But used in the right situation gripping points can be helpful. Just once you don't expect to hold someone forever with them, as some people think they can

yomchi

LOL at Roper floggin his arse again! He had a big advertisement truck outside my hall last nite saying don't train with him..train with me! KO Martial arts serving the entire Dublin City!! hehehe

Roper

You damn right! If you took me up on the offer of coming down to train with us one night you'd see why 9 out of 10 cats prefer it. Seriously though we're a small crew, hence we'd ike to be slightly bigger.;)

yomchi

Roper wrote:

You damn right! If you took me up on the offer of coming down to train with us one night you'd see why 9 out of 10 cats prefer it. Seriously though we're a small crew, hence we'd ike to be slightly bigger.;)

Sometimes smaller is better!
BTW is Keith Topdog still down there with you? Haven't seen him in a while

Roper

Jon wrote:

Sometimes smaller is better!

You and my missus agree then...;) Small is good, we're a tight group and we have a good thing going, just a little bigger, not too big!

Keith was training over the crimbo, hasn't been down in a couple of weeks because of work but I'm sure he'll drift back in soon and get motoring again.

yomchi

Good stuff, tell him I said Hello!

Roper

Will do.