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Design - Status of BER Assessors Course

  • 09-01-2007 10:51am
    #1
    construct06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know the status of this course. i have applied for it but have not heard back from them.......

    (oh yeah would be good if we could prefix posts with their relevant subject area, eg:

    design
    construction
    planning
    architecture


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  • #2
    serotonin_sam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭serotonin_sam


    construct06 wrote:
    Anyone know the status of this course. i have applied for it but have not heard back from them.......
    I'm sure they will in due course. You can rest assured whichever training provider you contacted - they will be getting back to you as this is where the handy money is being made!
    Theres no immediate hurry at the moment seeing as implementation has been put back another six months - and there won't be much work to be done then either...not until this time next year.
    Be under no illusions - this will be a part time gig. The major house builders will have their own assessors trained up. The majority of the rest of the work will be hoovered up by engineers and architects who already have long standing working relationships established with builders/developers.
    This will leave the scraps for the rest of us. Only reason I have decided to follow through on it is that I have a couple of weekdays free each week...


  • #3
    construct06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭construct06


    u only work 3 days a week?!

    id like a job like that?!!!


  • #4
    serotonin_sam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭serotonin_sam


    construct06 wrote:
    u only work 3 days a week?!

    id like a job like that?!!!
    Hmm...not sure if ya would. They're looong days - 12 hours long to be exact.:(


  • #5
    construct06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭construct06


    only messin, im sure they are.

    still i wouldnt mind gettin it all over in 3 days, long days wouldnt bother me...


  • #6
    ardara1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭ardara1


    Although there is no need for BER labels for a while - the calculation procedure used to calculate the BER has had to be done for every new house application form last July. The only training course to do these calcs was the BER course - yes? - Have any of you been asked to do the DEAP calc - not for a label but for application?

    Also I am aware of a numbre of sites wehre the builder is advertising their houses as A's or B's - who did the calcs for these?


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  • #7
    MEONLY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭MEONLY


    ardara1 wrote: »
    Although there is no need for BER labels for a while - the calculation procedure used to calculate the BER has had to be done for every new house application form last July. The only training course to do these calcs was the BER course - yes? - Have any of you been asked to do the DEAP calc - not for a label but for application?

    Also I am aware of a numbre of sites wehre the builder is advertising their houses as A's or B's - who did the calcs for these?

    I am currently sitting on two provisional BER's, from different counties. Neither LA have asked for BER. One person has started building, with permission, the other has had his app declared invalid reason: not sufficient info re landscaping and included is a request for the "girth" of the proposed shrubs. This tells me something about the priorities of la's re BER.
    My instructions are to sit on the BER's just in case they are asked for at a later date.
    Enjoyed the practice doing the BER's, nothing much else stirring. Maybe this attitude of la's has something to do with it?


  • #8
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,717 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    MEONLY this thread was over 2 years old and when there's a long time lag you are always better starting a new thread.

    Anyhow seeing as its going again I'll move this to the BER forum.


  • #9
    dunie001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭dunie001


    Why on earth would anyone reignite a thread that is over two years old??? ah well!

    Anyway, might as well post something now that i'm here.

    The laws clearly state that a Provisional BER is only required where someone intends to sell a Dwelling from the plans alone.

    There is nothing in the laws that say a provisional cert must accompany a planning application...

    Although doing the BER Cert CALCULATIONS at planning stage would have obvious benefits.


  • #10
    MEONLY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭MEONLY


    dunie001 wrote: »
    Why on earth would anyone reignite a thread that is over two years old??? ah well!

    Anyway, might as well post something now that i'm here.

    The laws clearly state that a Provisional BER is only required where someone intends to sell a Dwelling from the plans alone.

    There is nothing in the laws that say a provisional cert must accompany a planning application...

    Although doing the BER Cert CALCULATIONS at planning stage would have obvious benefits.

    My apologies to all for igniting a 2 year old thread. I should have done as muffler suggested above.:o No need to shoot me for this surely.
    However the subject might be worth revisiting. We had no recession 2 years ago!!!Not that we knew about anyway:D How many BER Certs were issued 2 years ago? The public have become more aware of energy matters during the last 2 years.

    WADR the law has very little to do with the case in point. I think we are not allowed to discuss the law here,(subject to correction on this).

    The customer is always right (particulatly when one has clients who are genuinely interested in energy conservation, as in the cases mentioned by me above) and a professional BER assessor can make huge improvements from the design to implementation of the build.

    As a result of my information to one of my clients, he is now looking down the barrel at an A rated house if he carries through my advise and makes certain "doable" changes from the original plans.

    WE seem to agree on the obvious benifits from clacs at planning stage:cool:

    This advance information I believe is where the future of professional BER Assessors lies and not in one assessor "calling the pot black" and where the "hairdressers" will be found out.


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