If it was meant to be it was meant ot be???

dvega

So as the title suggests.Probably so many of us have heard it in the past but do you actually believe that if it was 'meant to be it was meant to be'.

Personally i believe you make your own destiny,i've heard so many people use it in the past but believe its completely and utter bull****.

Dave!

Wow AH is very profound today........

I don't think anything is 'meant to be'. People reading different things into events, and make big deals out of coincidences, but I think it's unnecessary. Make what you want of your life, but don't delude yourself into thinking that everything happens for a reason, or that the big spaghetti monster in the sky is looking over everything your do, or that when you're finished on earth that you're gonna be reunited with your deceased pets.

It's all just nature, a lion eats a gazelle because it's hungry -- no other reason. We're not special.

And on that cheery note.......

Heyes

Yes I like to think that if things are ment to be there ment to be.

We all tend to over think about things far too much, but if thought logically you know your gut feeling will tell you the real truth rather than the lets make myself feel better truth.

Adam

If it was "meant to be" in your head, you probably subconsciously make the effort to "make it be", therefore lending to the concept.

But its all bull. There is no fate. And if you really think there is, visit a young childs funeral and tell the mother it was "meant to be" :rolleyes: You can't have your cake and eat it.

Smellyirishman

No, nothing is "meant to be", at least not literally. The phrase is usually used figuratively, which ain't so bad.

CathyMoran

I believe in fate. My husband and I took a long time to get together and overcame more obstacles than most people would face in a lifetime, even if he had taken another decision in the past we would have still met. One of my best friends is someone that I would have met even if I had chosen to go to another college. There have been so many occureneces that it would be hard for me no to believe in fate.

Rb

CathyMoran wrote:

I believe in fate. My husband and I took a long time to get together and overcame more obstacles than most people would face in a lifetime, even if he had taken another decision in the past we would have still met. One of my best friends is someone that I would have met even if I had chosen to go to another college. There have been so many occureneces that it would be hard for me no to believe in fate.

Likewise. Also believe that "if its meant to be, then its meant to be". Whether it be a person dying (old or young), or someone coming back into your life from the past.

Ruu_Old

CathyMoran wrote:

I believe in fate. My husband and I took a long time to get together and overcame more obstacles than most people would face in a lifetime, even if he had taken another decision in the past we would have still met. One of my best friends is someone that I would have met even if I had chosen to go to another college. There have been so many occureneces that it would be hard for me no to believe in fate.

Agreed, here and all.

Smellyirishman

CathyMoran wrote:

...even if he had taken another decision in the past we would have still met...

What if one of those decisions had been to shoot himself?

InFront

Arguably, if he could stop fate or overcome God and had tried to do so, he may have been phsically incapable. But then the universe would probably fall apart and that would be... bad. Arguably, everything is as it was intended. Arguably, you are only reading these posts because God wants you to!

Sangre

No free will, what a depressing thought. I don't see how anyone finds such a phrase comforting.

Smellyirishman

Oh no, where do I even begin!

That's crap, and you know it is! Not getting into anything more indepth than that, I need to write stuff!

humbert

I think it's just a positive slant on "shit happens", I'd say it's only the fruitiest religious people that believe things are predestined.

Rb

humbert wrote:

I think it's just a positive slant on "shit happens", I'd say it's only the fruitiest religious people that believe things are predestined.

So Adam Smith was a fruit cake eh?

humbert

rb_ie wrote:

So Adam Smith was a fruit cake eh?

I can't really respond unless you clarify.

Rb

humbert wrote:

I can't really respond unless you clarify.

CLICK

Sangre

People from the early 18th centuary don't count.

humbert

rb_ie wrote:

CLICK

I was humbly requesting your opinion instead of just lazily throwing out a name and expecting people to go fishing in order to respond.

dvega

Meh,So if a friend asked you to go out one night and you did,you met the woman/man of your dreams got married,children etc,but what if you decided to stay in that night.Completely your own decision,nobody telling to go out something might happen,as i said you are in charge of your own destiny.

I do agree with a previous post some people try to 'make it be'.

killeoin

CathyMoran wrote:

I believe in fate. My husband and I took a long time to get together and overcame more obstacles than most people would face in a lifetime, even if he had taken another decision in the past we would have still met. One of my best friends is someone that I would have met even if I had chosen to go to another college. There have been so many occureneces that it would be hard for me no to believe in fate.

Hi Cathy,

Just wondering how can you be sure that even if you had met your husband in a different situation that you would have even liked him? First Impressions can vary depending on a different day, someones mood etc...

Or even what if he found someone else first?

Black Swan

DaveMcG wrote:

Wow AH is very profound today........

Wait a minute! **Blue runs and pulls on boots**

Me thinks that there are some things we cannot influence with any consistency, like the weather. Perhaps that will change someday? Until then, we could write if off with the OP's expression?

CathyMoran

killeoin wrote:

Hi Cathy,

Just wondering how can you be sure that even if you had met your husband in a different situation that you would have even liked him? First Impressions can vary depending on a different day, someones mood etc...

I would have liked him because looks wise he is my type though there were a few things about him that I did not like, I saw him around college a few times before I spoke to him and while I was attracted to him imediatly it took me a long time to fall in love with him and even longer for me to realise that I was in love with him.

porn_star

I believe in it, to a certain extent. I always have... I don't think *everything* is fate, like I don't think it was written in the stars that I was meant to watch episodes on family guy right now.. But I think there's certain things that are a bit more then coincidence... and I've had some things happen to me,that I'd definitly put down to more then coincidence and think that they were supposed to happen. But saying that, I think you get these chances and it's up to you what way you go with them, there's always a different route, so I guess in a way it's up to the person what way they choose to go. but i do kinda belive in it.

Cake Fiend

Not only do I think it's a gigantic crock, but I'm absolutely tickled pink by the fact that there are so many people out there who actually believe in fate!

It's so quaint!

Gautama

dvega wrote:

So as the title suggests.Probably so many of us have heard it in the past but do you actually believe that if it was 'meant to be it was meant to be'.

Personally i believe you make your own destiny,i've heard so many people use it in the past but believe its completely and utter bull****.

About a billion people believe that Jesus rose from the dead.
Some people will believe anything.

JC 2K3

There is and there isn't.

I believe that if you knew the state of every single atom in the universe at an instant that you could predict the future. Of course that's unfeasable but I think everything is caused indirectly by the actions of other objects who's actions are caused by the actions of other objects etc. until we reach the beginning(if there indeed was one, I tend to believe in an infinite time loop).

So in conclusion, yes I guess I do believe in "fate" on a very fundamental, physical level, but I believe it's negligable in our lives. ie. You can't blame "fate" for something, that's not how we work. We feel like we have "free will" and perception is everything.

Basically what I'm trying to say is the human experience is one of free will, even if it doesn't really exist.

Pigman II

No it's not 'meant to be'. If you want something you have to go after it.

You may get it, you may not. But sitting around just waiting for it to happen to you will get you nothing.

Lust4Life

I believe we are all placed in certain points for a reason - be it to mix and mingle with those around us or to accomplish something important.

So yes, to a degree, I believe "It Was Meant To Be".
Of course, we must continue evolving though. So what is meant to be at one moment may change at another. We must always keep moving forward.

kevmy

While I don't belive we are predestined to do anything I do belive we rely on our instincts a lot on a very basic level so in a way we are predictable or predetermined to do certain actions in certain circumstances. However in our own life I belive our own choices, our genetic makeup (what we're talented at) and our environment are the main factors in what we do.

Usually though this particular phrase is used concerning relationships. And as most cliches there is a grain of truth in it. IMO some people will never be suited for each for long term relationships no matter how hard they try. Something in one or others character is fundamentally against being involved with the other person, even though they could be good friends never partners. Thats not to say of course that people should give up at the slightest hint of trouble either.