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Builder messed up building my house!

  • 05-01-2007 9:22pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36


    Hi,

    I have a 4 bed semi, built in 1999. I converted the garage a year or two later.

    The guy I got to do it spotted (late) that the lintel above the garage opening was not level (apologies if I'm using "lintel" incorrectly).

    So now there is an inch gap between the window that was installed and the lintel on one side.

    My questions are, in the board's opinion:

    1. Is the original builder liable? (Note, I paid cash to a local engineer to do a snag list and probably have nothing official from him)

    2. Would homebond cover it?

    3. How would I mask such a defect?

    Here is a pic

    window2.jpg


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭De_man


    hi could you post a full photograph please, at least we can then get a
    proper look


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably settlement, are there any movement cracks in the garage walls?

    The easiest way to hide it would be to render the wall, but may not look right with the rest of the house.

    As de_man says a full picture will give us a better idea though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    Thanks for the interest.

    Here is a bigger pic

    windows3.jpg

    Since it's dark outside, here is an auctioneer's thumbnail showing the type of house.

    window4.jpg


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The quick and easy way to hide it is just to get a strip of white UPVC and cover the gap, you can only see it if you look closely.

    The hard way woud be to get the window refitted and aligned with the lintel, the gap would be less noticable under the sill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    Probably settlement, are there any movement cracks in the garage walls?

    There were no movement cracks when the garage conversion was being done. I'd find it hard to believe it is settlement as everything else looks fine and it is about an inch in magnitude.

    It is a timber frame/superwarm house if that has any bearing on anything.

    The easiest way to hide it would be to render the wall, but may not look right with the rest of the house.

    As de_man says a full picture will give us a better idea though.

    What do you think after I posted the pics?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    The quick and easy way to hide it is just to get a strip of white UPVC and cover the gap, you can only see it if you look closely.

    That was something I did think of - I will try this I suppose. You're right - it'll only be noticeable if someone actually looks closely. However, I want to sell up in the not too distant future and I don't want this hanging over me.

    The hard way woud be to get the window refitted and aligned with the lintel, the gap would be less noticable under the sill.

    The garage converter kind of split-the-difference between the sill and the lintel already!


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is it brick or rendered block under the window?

    If block the second option is still open to you
    else realign the window and render the brickwork, as in the thumbnail you already have rendered panels on the house, a matching one under the window should look OK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    What was there before the window? Was it an up-and-over garage door?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    Is it brick or rendered block under the window?

    Brick, unfortunately I suppose.

    If I could establish that the builder was liable for this then at least it would be up to him to do it.
    ...else realign the window and render the brickwork, as in the thumbnail you already have rendered panels on the house, a matching one under the window should look OK

    Yes, that it still an option. An obvious difference from the other houses in the estate however.

    I must take a look in the daytime with this in mind.

    Thanks for all the suggestions - keep it up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    wyndham wrote:
    What was there before the window? Was it an up-and-over garage door?

    Yes


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If the up-n-over door fitted square, then the floor may slope as well..

    IIRC that it's a bad idea to lay garage floors dead level, this is to allow spilled liquids to flow out of the building rather than pooling on the floor.

    If you've ever parked a wet car in there, you'll understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭hiscan


    is the window frame straight across the top ive often seen them veer off on one side especially on a window that size also depending on the manufacturer
    that lentil looks fairly straight in the picture


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    hiscan wrote:
    is the window frame straight across the top ive often seen them veer off on one side especially on a window that size also depending on the manufacturer
    that lentil looks fairly straight in the picture

    Confirmed with a level that it is the lintel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 NWM


    Actually, the column to the left of the window is 27 bricks high and the one to the right is 28 bricks high (from the first whole brick I could count ).

    As I said, the person who converted the garage 'split the difference' with the window sill so there is a less obvious gap underneath it.

    windows001.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 the brickie


    your best bet is a pvc strip,the brickwork is terribly off level,the gap between the top and bottom window on the right is dead in line with a mortar joint
    while on the left this gap is in line with the middle of a brick, thats 35mm
    straight away.if you are selling up get a pvc strip and maybe taper one end
    to take the bad look off it.


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