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Interesting 0.25/0.5 NL hand

  • 05-01-2007 12:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭


    Only just sat down at the table and get 9Ts on the button. The raise to $2.50 is just the standard raise with a wide range of cards for most players on Tribeca from what I can see so I call in position to see the flop.
    My question is what do you think of my bet after the reraise? Was this a stupid move considering the checked reraise and the checked flat call?

    Holdem No Limit $0.25/$0.50
    UTG : kriv777 has $126.76
    UTG+1 : shylow8 has $97.06
    CO : Livia*Starr has $48.40
    Button : Hero has $95.75
    SB : cairo43 has $29.32
    BB : magicmim has $50.21
    cairo43 posted small blind.
    [magicmim posted big blind.
    Hero has 9c Tc
    kriv777 folded.
    shylow8 called $0.50
    Livia*Starr called $0.50
    Hero called $0.50
    cairo43 called $0.25
    magicmim raised $2
    shylow8 called $2
    Livia*Starr called $2
    Hero called $2
    Board cards [6c Qh 7c] Pot $10
    magicmim checked.
    shylow8 checked.
    Livia*Starr checked.
    Hero bet $4
    magicmim called $4 and raised $8
    shylow8 folded.
    Livia*Starr called $12
    Pot $38
    Hero called $8 and raised $81.25 and is All-in

    So what do you think?
    I think I have 12 outs at the most so I wont be in bad shape if I get called unless by a higher flush draw which I doubt, probably up against a high pair or trips which when I thought about afterwards I will probably never put anyone of trips in this position really.
    If you were the other players what hand would you put me on?

    Edited to say 12 outs instead of 15!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭MacStacked


    Digiman your first and worst mistake is betting your flush draw in the first place in a raised pot against 4 opponents...What are you hoping to achieve?

    Edit: Fold to the raise. You are up against another flush draw more often than you think. AQc KJc or any combination of these..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    MacStacked wrote:
    Digiman your first and worst mistake is betting your flush draw in the first place in a raised pot against 4 opponents...What are you hoping to achieve?

    Edit: Fold to the raise. You are up against another flush draw more often than you think. AQc KJc or any combination of these..

    Well my thinking was a decent bet at the pot could win it here right now sometimes so i bet near half the pot as it has been checked around to me by the other 3 players.
    Would it still be bad to just call the raise as I am paying $8 to win $38 which is nearly 5/1 and excellent odds if I hit my inside straigh, flush draw or inside straight flush draw?? Or as you say I could most likely be up against a higher flush draw if I hit so I could potentially be drawing to a 1 outer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭kpnuts


    I like the play, as long as you make same play with set or overpair sometimes too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I think you should do this a lot, also sometimes with a set. Playing an overpair like this would be terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    i think 200bbs is too deepstacked to be doing stuff like this

    if you had 100 it might be ok,although probably not given that there are two players interested in the pot,you've been checkraised already and that checkraise has been called,and its .25/50 so you have very little fold equity


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭MacStacked


    With 4 players in the hand your 1/2 pot bluff is not going to get through. I would definitely check.

    Calling the $8 is fine (there is huge implied odds if you turn an 8) but you should be aware that if you make the flush it may not be best.

    I think your best to fold an overpair given the action. I agree that this is a good play with a set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Was about to say that I wasn't a big fan of this play in this spot, but after thinking a bit more, I now like it. I like this play in general and with the dead money now in the pot, this play is good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I think it's very standard tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    So if you are to make this play are you generally doing it to make players fold? When I done it in this situation I want them to fold but would obviously it would not be the worst thing in the world if they called as I do have possibly 12 outs and 4 if there are on a better flush draw.
    It also puts alot of pressure on a player as he has a bit of a decision to make if he has AQ or an overpair.


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