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Planning Status

  • 04-01-2007 4:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know what the status 'pre validation' means.....

    its listed against an application I was checking on the Cork City Council website, but doesn't give an explanation....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    When the planning department receives a planning application, they have to validate it before processing it. This is basically a check to see if they have all the required information and that it is correct. Give them at least a week from the date of submission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭paulocon


    As smashey said, the application is being check to see that it is fully complete and valid.

    If an application is invalid, it will be rejected by the Local Authority.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Sure here's one to start you off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭construct06


    The pre-validation status can be in place anytime from the date of receipt right up to the 7th week and 6th day!

    The planning and development regulations state that the Council should inform the applicant as to the validity or not of the application 'as soon as may be' after receipt of the application!

    But thats just scare-mongering really. This rarely happens.

    Usuall 1-2 weeks is enough for the Council to check and validate/invalidate your application. If the Council are fairly sound, if they find a little mistake they will ring you and allow you to rectify it in order that the application will be certified.

    Certainly if the application has not been validated after 2 weeks i would get on to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    Although they can be real stuborn about it and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Only three months ago I had to reissue the six copies of a scheme because they had lost the copies, fair enough they weren't going to restart the clock on resubmission, but they wanted the drawings before half four on a friday and it was literally just before lunch, that was a bad day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,743 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    The pre-validation status can be in place anytime from the date of receipt right up to the 7th week and 6th day!QUOTE]
    Cant agree with you on that point. The longest time they would have an any event would be the statutory 5 week period during which they must inspect the site notice. Applications are normally deemed valid within 10 - 14 days of receipt and the only thing that can invalidate an application after that is the site notice (or want of a site notice :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭construct06


    well i am only interpreting what is in the regulations and i have witnessed an instance wherby it suite the Council to do this and because the regs. are vague (but in the Councils favour) they did do it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 MMW


    pervalidation stayed on the web for us until 2 days after we got our planning
    it only changes if they refuse, want more information, or deem your application to be invalid-which happened for us when we got ONE word wrong in our newspaper announcement, and had to start from scratch


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roscommon CC are a bit more on the ball, they update their website within two or three working days.

    They also publish some of the documentation associated with the application, including the letter sent to the applicant after decision.

    I know that other councils do things differently, more and more are going down the on-line route.

    I find that the amount of information required in the newspaper advert a bit pointless, it just fills the page with opening times of the planning office etc, OK if you are the newspaper propiater.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    MMW wrote:
    pervalidation stayed on the web for us until 2 days after we got our planning
    it only changes if they refuse, want more information, or deem your application to be invalid-which happened for us when we got ONE word wrong in our newspaper announcement, and had to start from scratch

    In Donegal, they are quite good with the web-site. As soon as an application is validated, it is changed to "new application" on the system and eventually it changes to "decision made".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,259 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Some CC are miles ahead of the rest. I use south dublin and kildare often, and the SDCC website is great, all documents in pdf, drawings, letter from both sides, 3rd party submissions (objections, area meetings),
    Kildare on the other hand it terrible, File number, location in words, description, thats all. I wont use it until its at a decent standard


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