Shock horror decisions

AmarilloFats

1/2 NL Party 6 max

these seemed tough hands to me after christmas break

...any light shed would be appreciated...

hand 1

villain is new to table his stats are 25vpip/15pfr
Relative stacks 200

I make it 8 UTG w/ AcQc
Villain calls in SB

Flop - As Ah Ts

He checks, I bet 12
He minraises me to 24
I call(pot ~ 65)

Turn - 2c
he leads for 40


I ????????

Hand 2
Villain is bad...His stats are 35/7, he is passive post flop

He makes it 8 UTG, SB calls and I call with 55

Flop Qs 7s 2d

Every body czechs

Turn - 5c

SB checks, I bet 18
Villain Makes it 48
Stacks 200

I?????

BobSloane

hand 1. I raise to about 120 or so thinking he may have a flush draw. You were losing to AK,AT, TT and now A2. Big chance he has a weaker Ace

hand 2. Push. You're only afraid of QQ or 77. If its set over set what can you do

If you're saying they seemed tough though it sounds like bad news on both

pok3rplaya

1) Raise and get AI.

2) Push and say hi to QQ

phantom_lord

pok3rplaya wrote:

1) Raise and get AI.

2) Push and say hi to QQ

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Hectorjelly

Hand 1 I think calling is better
Hand 2 tough spot, I dont mind a fold if you think he always bets AA KK AQ on the flop. Cant really fold without a read though

robinlacey

hand 1 i probably just call,probably call the river too...

hand 2 i think i'd just push,if he's ahead so be it but presuming you're only 100bbs deep here
i might just call and then bet the river either

spectre

No need to get agressive with either hand
hand 1: call and call a river bet
hand 2: I try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible here too. Call the raise and check-call the river

Hectorjelly

spectre wrote:

hand 2: I try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible here too. Call the raise and check-call the river

You know thats probably going to be for most of our stack? and villain may check behind a lot of hands if we are ahead, but will never check behind an overset? I think this is the worst option; unless villain is going to push/bet hands we beat for value on the river we are on the wrong side of a negative freeroll. If the pot was a lot smaller this would be fine.

valor

I dont think either of these are tough spots

#1 I would prob call and get it in on river
#2 I would shove

AmarilloFats

Hand 1.
Well I did not feel I had enough info to fold here, so I tried to make the most from AJ, A9 etc....I call his turn bet. On the river he pushed (river was 7d, and I really did not like it but called the ~125 river bet to be shown TT.... I think if I was playing with him for a little longer i could have found a fold....


Hand 2
This guy was bad passive, when he checks the flop and raises my turn bet I really don't see him with any other hand other than QQ, I think he just limps in with 22 btw.
So I called the turn raise....Cause who the hell folds sets
River was a J
I checked, he bets 15 into a ~120......OH NO, I pushed..Wtf!!. He called w/ QQ!!

AKQJ10

hand1 - i think is a call, most likely a weaker ace
hand2 - i think the only thing he's checking to you here on the flop is a set of queens but judge on previous pots.

LuckyLloyd

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marius

LuckyLloyd wrote:

On the second hand I just hate when they do that little sh!tty value bet thing. Why do they do that??

AmarilloFats wrote:

I pushed.........

Not saying it is great play - just that that is why they do it.....