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Some holdem hands

  • 03-01-2007 3:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    Hand 1

    1/2 Live PL

    Effective stacks 200

    I'm dealt JJ in MP and decide to limp after a few limpers. 2 players in LP have been raising alot so I'm fully expecting a raise. Indeed button raises to 15. After everyone has folded, I flat call.

    Flop (45ish)

    2diamond.gif5diamond.gif2heart.gif

    I check, villain bets pot and I raise all-in. Villain in this hand is Oberon who is tilting slightly.

    Comments?

    Hand 2

    Tribeca .50/1

    Villain is 20/7/3.2 over 600 hands. Seems decent. He opens UTG. His raising range here is very tight. I would think 99+, AJ+ but obviously cant be 100% on this.

    Effective stacks 150.

    He opens for 5 UTG. I repop it to 20 in the cutoff with two black aces.

    Flop (40ish)

    9 T 2 rainbow. He checks, I bet 30. He shoves. I?


    Hand 3

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open for 5 UTG with 9Ts. Loose player calls from BB.

    Flop (10)

    T T A rainbow

    He checks, I bet 8, he makes it 20. I make it 50. He shoves. I?

    Hand 4

    Effective stacks 200.

    I open 8c9c for 5 from cutoff. Button calls and BB calls. The button has been reraising me very light both preflop and on the flop.

    Flop (15)

    2s Th Qc

    I bet 10. Button makes it 25. I make it 70. He thinks for a good while and calls.

    Turn (155)

    Kc

    I shove.

    Hand 5

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.

    Flop (11)

    2c 5c 9h

    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call

    Turn (61)

    Qc

    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.

    River (141)

    9s

    He shoves. I?

    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭ligger


    Hand 1. Why not Reraise PF?

    He calls and hits his flush

    Hand 2.

    Tough one as he could easily have a set from you read on him but he could have JJ, QQ or KK. I call, and then close my eyes.

    Hand 3. Why did you Open raise UTG with this? I think the only thing you are beating is the Case 10 with a worse kicker , unless he plays a big Ace this way? I fold this one.

    Hand 4 he calls with KQ and you river a flush..

    Hand 5. Fold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Hand 1 - I expect Oberon to fold, he knows your not doing this without a hand and only calls if he is ahead. He may have a pocket pair too and pay you/beat you tho.

    Hand 2 - You call and expect to see JJ / QQ / KK alot of the time. UL if he has hit a set which based on the range you have assigned him is likely. Does he call a reraise preflop with 99 and 1010 tho?

    Hand 3 - against a loose player I call - why do you 3 bet? what hands would he reraise from the BB with? - I think most people will go broke and so would I.

    Hand 4 - Ugh - i dont know. Im not in love with it - Having been in the tank on the flop before he called I expect he may be on a draw like J 9 or something. If he had middle pair on the flop it is very hard for him to call now though.

    Hand 5 - I dunno here - It depends on the villian and any reads you have. Feck it its cash and you can reload.. CALL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1
    1/2 Live PL
    Effective stacks 200
    I'm dealt JJ in MP and decide to limp after a few limpers. 2 players in LP have been raising alot so I'm fully expecting a raise. Indeed button raises to 15. After everyone has folded, I flat call.
    Flop (45ish)
    2diamond.gif5diamond.gif2heart.gif
    I check, villain bets pot and I raise all-in. Villain in this hand is Oberon who is tilting slightly.
    Comments?
    Not too bad although doesn't it let AK get off too easy? he still has 110 left and you obviously like your hand alot so he might just chuck it away. Leading might get him to raise and if you call he's pretty committed to the hand even if the turn is a total blank for him.
    Hand 2
    Tribeca .50/1
    Villain is 20/7/3.2 over 600 hands. Seems decent. He opens UTG. His raising range here is very tight. I would think 99+, AJ+ but obviously cant be 100% on this.
    Effective stacks 150.
    He opens for 5 UTG. I repop it to 20 in the cutoff with two black aces.
    Flop (40ish)
    9 T 2 rainbow. He checks, I bet 30. He shoves. I?
    What would Villain think your reraising standards are preflop? JJ+ and AK?
    Hand 3
    Effective stacks 180.
    I open for 5 UTG with 9Ts. Loose player calls from BB.
    Flop (10)
    T T A rainbow
    He checks, I bet 8, he makes it 20. I make it 50. He shoves. I?
    Yeti Theorem on 2+2: "On a paired board a 3-bet has a high likelyhood of being a bluff." Similarly here if Villain has AA or a Ten doesn't he generally call the 50 and tries to get the rest in on a later street?
    Hand 4
    Effective stacks 200.
    I open 8c9c for 5 from cutoff. Button calls and BB calls. The button has been reraising me very light both preflop and on the flop.
    Flop (15)
    2s Th Qc
    I bet 10. Button makes it 25. I make it 70. He thinks for a good while and calls.
    Turn (155)
    Kc
    I shove.
    Smells like a set or top 2 to me. Can't see him doing it with just top pair or an OESD. It's a small raise by Villain on the flop so I'd be suspicious.
    Hand 5
    Effective stacks 180.
    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.
    Flop (11)
    2c 5c 9h
    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call
    Turn (61)
    Qc
    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.
    River (141)
    9s
    He shoves. I?
    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.
    A reluctant fold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 4

    Effective stacks 200.

    I open 8c9c for 5 from cutoff. Button calls and BB calls. The button has been reraising me very light both preflop and on the flop.

    Flop (15)

    2s Th Qc

    I bet 10. Button makes it 25. I make it 70. He thinks for a good while and calls.

    Turn (155)

    Kc

    I shove..

    Man you got some balls....good shove here though
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 5

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.

    Flop (11)

    2c 5c 9h

    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call

    Turn (61)

    Qc

    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.

    River (141)

    9s

    He shoves. I?

    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.

    I am unsure about this one...you already have 70 in there...i think i call

    Verry aggressive play throughout...too much red bull???

    I dont like the shove against oberon though...i think you could have milked him for more ( he didint call did he)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 5

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.

    Flop (11)

    2c 5c 9h

    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call

    Turn (61)

    Qc

    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.

    River (141)

    9s

    He shoves. I?

    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.

    I'm really confused about the comments re this hand. Could people please explain why they would fold here?

    Ok so he could have pocket 9s, but why does he trap when he hits trips (with a possible flush draw on the board) and then push when he hits quads?

    Maybe I'm just a fish but this would be an instant call for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    Wreck wrote:
    I'm really confused about the comments re this hand. Could people please explain why they would fold here?

    Ok so he could have pocket 9s, but why does he trap when he hits trips (with a possible flush draw on the board) and then push when he hits quads?

    Maybe I'm just a fish but this would be an instant call for me.

    what about pocket 2's 5's or less likely q's?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1

    1/2 Live PL

    Effective stacks 200

    I'm dealt JJ in MP and decide to limp after a few limpers. 2 players in LP have been raising alot so I'm fully expecting a raise. Indeed button raises to 15. After everyone has folded, I flat call.

    Flop (45ish)

    2diamond.gif5diamond.gif2heart.gif

    I check, villain bets pot and I raise all-in. Villain in this hand is Oberon who is tilting slightly.

    Comments?

    'tis OK, I imagine you're miles ahead. He folded? If you were feeling ballsy enough, you could have called and hopefully extracted his full tank on the turn. I'm happy to take it down now (assuming he didn't have A2 soooted or something equally silly)
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 2

    Tribeca .50/1

    Villain is 20/7/3.2 over 600 hands. Seems decent. He opens UTG. His raising range here is very tight. I would think 99+, AJ+ but obviously cant be 100% on this.

    Effective stacks 150.

    He opens for 5 UTG. I repop it to 20 in the cutoff with two black aces.

    Flop (40ish)

    9 T 2 rainbow. He checks, I bet 30. He shoves. I?

    what an annoying spot for bullets. why can't life be simple...

    I call fearing TT or 99 (although would he call your RR PF with these if he's tighter than my leather underpants??) but expecting KK or QQ
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 3

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open for 5 UTG with 9Ts. Loose player calls from BB.

    Flop (10)

    T T A rainbow

    He checks, I bet 8, he makes it 20. I make it 50. He shoves. I?

    call faster than Shergar won the derby.
    If he has a better T or AA, then reload and play him all night long
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 4

    Effective stacks 200.

    I open 8c9c for 5 from cutoff. Button calls and BB calls. The button has been reraising me very light both preflop and on the flop.

    Flop (15)

    2s Th Qc

    I bet 10. Button makes it 25. I make it 70. He thinks for a good while and calls.

    Turn (155)

    Kc

    I shove.

    LOL @ representin' your way out of a crazy spot

    did it work? I only pull these kind of moves when locked. Any more info/history on villain?
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 5

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.

    Flop (11)

    2c 5c 9h

    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call

    Turn (61)

    Qc

    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.

    River (141)

    9s

    He shoves. I?

    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.

    call unless you know he's the nittiest nit in nitsville


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    what about pocket 2's 5's or less likely q's?

    Well QQ would have been a reraise pre flop, at least I would have thought so.

    Given that the only read we have is that he is tight, does he call oop with small PPs like 2s or 5s. I just don't see it. :confused: THe only hand I can put him on that is beating me is 99, and I'm not convinced he has that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1

    1/2 Live PL

    Effective stacks 200

    I'm dealt JJ in MP and decide to limp after a few limpers. 2 players in LP have been raising alot so I'm fully expecting a raise. Indeed button raises to 15. After everyone has folded, I flat call.

    Flop (45ish)

    2diamond.gif5diamond.gif2heart.gif

    I check, villain bets pot and I raise all-in. Villain in this hand is Oberon who is tilting slightly.

    Comments?

    hmmm... i'm very indecisive about this. Could be a very good move on some players, but I imagine Oberon folded.
    If he has 88-1010 I think you will get value in the move.
    ianmc38 wrote:

    Hand 2

    Tribeca .50/1

    Villain is 20/7/3.2 over 600 hands. Seems decent. He opens UTG. His raising range here is very tight. I would think 99+, AJ+ but obviously cant be 100% on this.

    Effective stacks 150.

    He opens for 5 UTG. I repop it to 20 in the cutoff with two black aces.

    Flop (40ish)

    9 T 2 rainbow. He checks, I bet 30. He shoves. I?

    Slim chance you are behind....but not sure there is a strong enough argument for folding. It is more likely to be JJ/QQ/KK than it is to be 99/TT.
    Like all hands it is player dependent, do you think he is capable of shoving with the set here, most at this level are not.
    I call.
    ianmc38 wrote:

    Hand 3

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open for 5 UTG with 9Ts. Loose player calls from BB.

    Flop (10)

    T T A rainbow

    He checks, I bet 8, he makes it 20. I make it 50. He shoves. I?

    Again, a relatively easy call. He will not put you on a T, so knows you are afraid of it. He most likely realises you think he is loose and is trying to use that to get you off a weak A. I think any decent T or and AT would only call your re-reraise.

    *Not sure why you're raising UTG with 9Ts... were u drunk?
    ianmc38 wrote:

    Hand 4

    Effective stacks 200.

    I open 8c9c for 5 from cutoff. Button calls and BB calls. The button has been reraising me very light both preflop and on the flop.

    Flop (15)

    2s Th Qc

    I bet 10. Button makes it 25. I make it 70. He thinks for a good while and calls.

    Turn (155)

    Kc

    I shove.

    nuts throughout the hand, but as it laid out.... I really like this shove.
    ianmc38 wrote:

    Hand 5

    Effective stacks 180.

    I open AcKc from the button to 5. Tight player calls from the SB.

    Flop (11)

    2c 5c 9h

    He checks. I bet 11. he makes it 25. I call

    Turn (61)

    Qc

    He checks. I bet 40. He thinks and calls.

    River (141)

    9s

    He shoves. I?

    Comments on play in all hands appreciated.

    I think about folding, then call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Hand 1: I raise preflop normally obv, but i guess you played this ok cos its against a tilty Oberon.

    Hand 2: How does villain view you? Call anyway.

    Hand 3: Is the player loose good or loose bad? Thats pretty important here.

    Hand 4: I fold flop, turn is a spew.

    Hand 5: No way I can fold this now. Pots way to big


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    Hand 1. I would rather re-raise him pre-flop maybe to 50 to take the lead and then lead out strong on that flop. I don't know Oberon from adam but anyone who's tilting and raising the button alot can raise with anything - 2 4 suited could be enough. As played though I like the check-raise all-in move.

    Hand 2. I call immediatly. Not expecting him to check-raise all-in with a set in this situation. But that could be beginners fall-in-love with Aces syndrome

    Hand 3. Tough one. You're beating AK. Not much more. Although if he has a J10 or Q10 why is he trying to push you out? AA is unlikely I think. I suppose if you're going to raise UTG with 910 suited this is a good flop so you've got to call it. I would have flat called his re-raise though and seen what his next move was.

    Hand 4. Good move I think. Button may have J9 or AJ and call instantly or KQ and call instantly. If he does you have outs. If he doesn't have any of those you've pushed the best hand off the pot. Checking or making a small bet is giving him the green light to run over you - which he has being trying to do previouly

    Hand 5. Tough again. How tight is tight. Have you being raising the button alot and he's sick of it? Would he possibly call 5x BB raise with A9 suited and not be afraid of a scary turn card like that. What pot odds? About 2.5-1 to call i think? Are you more than 70% sure he's got the goods. Surely he makes a smaller value bet here having made the probable cinch hand. You need a bit more info on him but I'm only 65.4% sure he has the house so I call - again.

    I'm changing my name to calling station


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    1 is fine
    2 I call but it's close
    3 I probably wouldnt have made it 50 unless I was going to call here. I probably fold, any more reads on villain would help.
    4 is OK
    5 I call, you are beaten a lot but you are getting a good price.
    I don't like opening to 5 in general in a 1 2 game, I tend to make it 6 or 7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    also saying such and such a player is UTG means nothing really, how many players were dealt in in #2 and #3? It would be much better if people would say "opened from 4 off the button" or similar instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    All hands are Tribeca .50/1 apart from number 1 which was in the Emporium.

    All Tribeca hands I play are 6 max.

    #2 He opens UTG and everyone folds to me on the button with AA.

    #3 I open the betting and it's folded around to the BB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Hand 1 - Yeah i push.

    Hand 2 - I call we are ahead of too large a range here to fold.

    Hand 3 - I think its interesting. Do most people at this level think about calling and slow playing or do they see you reraise and think Wooohoo i am shoving ?

    Alot depends here on what you think of villian here.

    Hand 4 - I like it.

    Hand 5 - You do say he is tight so i think we are beat. Hope i can find a fold here. Surely he knows he is not going to push you off this pot and is shoving for value.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Hand 1

    Yes preflop is an alternative line to my normal, simply becuase it's Oberon. I know he's gonna drop any crappy hand if i reraise him preflop. I also know he'll bet any flop if i seem weak and check to him. Anyways, he called quicly with 47d and hit a flush. I only posted the hand because he told me I played it badly, but I thought it was a good line vs him.

    Hand 2

    I called and lost vs a set of tens that turned into quads on the turn. I was just double checking the call is ok vs his range.

    Hand 3

    I dont usually open SCs from UTG, but i was playing 2 regulars who I dont want assigning a very specific hand range to what i'll open from UTG

    I 3-bet fully intending to call an all-in. Most people will never put me on Tx there. When he 4-bet I was worried thoug as I dont think he's ever bluffing there. I called and he had KTo, but I think that hand was just a cooler.

    Hand 4

    He timed out and folded. I dont know what hand I'd call with in his position. He obviously dropped something like JJ/AQ on the turn. I think my line looks very strong especially as I hadn't played back at him very much in the session.

    Hand 5

    I really wanted to fold but there was too much in there. I called and he had AA. Lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1

    Yes preflop is an alternative line to my normal, simply becuase it's Oberon. I know he's gonna drop any crappy hand if i reraise him preflop. I also know he'll bet any flop if i seem weak and check to him. Anyways, he called quicly with 47d and hit a flush. I only posted the hand because he told me I played it badly, but I thought it was a good line vs him.

    classic stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1

    Yes preflop is an alternative line to my normal, simply becuase it's Oberon. I know he's gonna drop any crappy hand if i reraise him preflop. I also know he'll bet any flop if i seem weak and check to him. Anyways, he called quicly with 47d and hit a flush. I only posted the hand because he told me I played it badly, but I thought it was a good line vs him.

    Hand 2

    I called and lost vs a set of tens that turned into quads on the turn. I was just double checking the call is ok vs his range.

    Hand 3

    I dont usually open SCs from UTG, but i was playing 2 regulars who I dont want assigning a very specific hand range to what i'll open from UTG

    I 3-bet fully intending to call an all-in. Most people will never put me on Tx there. When he 4-bet I was worried thoug as I dont think he's ever bluffing there. I called and he had KTo, but I think that hand was just a cooler.

    Hand 4

    He timed out and folded. I dont know what hand I'd call with in his position. He obviously dropped something like JJ/AQ on the turn. I think my line looks very strong especially as I hadn't played back at him very much in the session.

    Hand 5

    I really wanted to fold but there was too much in there. I called and he had AA. Lol.


    Hand1:
    What reasons did he give for you playing the hand badly? would be interesting, especially since he played the hand so well :rolleyes:

    Hand2:
    Thats just unlucky. I guess you could have folded due to the crai, but not sure.
    I really don't like the way he played the hand at all.

    Hand3:
    I actually missed the fact that that was a 4 bet. For some reason didn't see that he was oop (just saw you're UTG raise and presumed he had position - must read these things more carefully). So, missed that it was check, 8, 20, 50, shove. when he put it to 20 I would have been getting very worried.
    Not saying I would have found a fold, but it wouldn't have been remotely as easy a call as I thought.


    Hand4:
    I like, I like.


    Hand5:
    good call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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