Hostel II trailer

Ph3n0m

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498353/trailers-screenplay-E30771-10-2

User45701

kool, well worth a watch when i get home fro mwork. thanks

Galvasean

After 3 Saw movies and now 2 Hostel movies I'm really getting tired of this whole "tied to a chair and tortured" genre.

TerrorFirmer

Galvasean wrote:

After 3 Saw movies and now 2 Hostel movies I'm really getting tired of this whole "tied to a chair and tortured" genre.

I'm not.

Ph3n0m

Galvasean wrote:

After 3 Saw movies and now 2 Hostel movies I'm really getting tired of this whole "tied to a chair and tortured" genre.

hey dont knock it until you have personally tried it

film_gonzo

Well, that was crap!:mad:

Galvasean

Ph3n0m wrote:

hey dont knock it until you have personally tried it

You mean until I have tied someone to a chair and tortured them to death?!!? :eek:

After Hostel and Saw 3 i really don't think there's anywhere the genre ('gorenography' as its called) can go.

Kingp35

I agree with Galvasean. I cant see the attraction to these Gore movies that have no story to them at all. The Saw movies arent too bad but Hostel was useless. I think its supposed to shock you or something but once you have seen one you have seen them all.

mewso

Kingp35 wrote:

but once you have seen one eyeball removed with a scissors you have seen them all.

Couldn't resist

Basq

Well.. i saw it this evening. I wasn't expecting much and it really let me down even so.

I was one of the few who enjoyed the first one.. it was a squeamish enough film for someone who's not a regular Takeshi Miike (sp?) viewer.

But this one really had very few redeeming qualities - i do have faith in Eli Roth's writing but this script was dull, unfunny, predictable and just all-in-all a typical cash-in sequel. Probably would have been straight to video without Eli Roth directing and Tarantino once again producing.

The four lead girls were irritating beyond belief... no dimension to their characters (not that it was necessary). Add a dash of lesbian undertones and let's throw in two ould blokes from 'Desperate Housewives' (whose acting and presence was a minor saving grace in the film - the squeamish manner of one VS the confident manner was occasionally fun to watch).

Now for some of the spoilerific details:

** WARNING.. MAJOR PLOT REVELATIONS AHEAD **

Firstly, Paxton's death couldn't have been lamer. I mean christ, showing him with his head cut-off! :rolleyes: And not even witnessing the beheading!

One of the problems the film had was with humour - Eli Roth's scripts can be often very funny and dark comedy comes lightly to him but i felt most of the humour in this was a bit weak. I mean the kids playing football with a head - who hasn't seen a head used as a football in one way or another in any horror out there!?

I quite liked the role reversal between the two males - Stuart and (forget the other blokes name). Stuart's progression over to the "dark side" began as an interesting enough character study / insight but developed into lunacy when he tried to rape the lead for no real reason. His comeuppance was quite horrific though! :eek:

The only other real moment that made me squirm was the sickle - the noise of it scraping against skin was more terrifying than anything. The women bathing in blood underneath was just an excuse for more breasts in a film already populated with enough.

The ending was predictable to say the least. Wouldn't suprise me if we see a third however.

I'd give it a 3 / 10 - passable hour and a half but instantly forgettable!

Kingp35

Kingp35 wrote:

I agree with Galvasean. I cant see the attraction to these Gore movies that have no story to them at all. The Saw movies arent too bad but Hostel was useless. I think its supposed to shock you or something but once you have seen one you have seen them all.

To say there was no storyline is slightly inaccurate, there is a storyline, its just not very good!!!


I think some of the scenes are needless BUT the idea for the film was based on a real life advert that Eli Roth saw on the internet and the fact that he couldnt tell whether it was a joke or not is actually pretty disturbing!

KTRIC

Sehr gut

rizzla

I just saw it there and I loved it. I am a huge fan of Eli Roth though. It was a great follow on from the first.

KTRIC

I got my hands on a pre-cut copy of it last night. Can't wait to see it at the weekend.

rizzla

KTRIC wrote:

I got my hands on a pre-cut copy of it last night. Can't wait to see it at the weekend.

I think I got the same one. It's a work print copy, some of the CG stuff is a little off in it and there is one part with green screen. I heard though that it is totally uncut.

Still, can't wait to see it in the cinema all 100% complete and finished. I have a feeling parts will be cut for the theatrical release though.

TerrorFirmer

Could you not just wait a few weeks to watch it in the cinema....? It is really worth watching a workprint?

Tha Gopher

basquille wrote:

Well.. i saw it this evening. I wasn't expecting much and it really let me down even so.

I was one of the few who enjoyed the first one.. it was a squeamish enough film for someone who's not a regular Takeshi Miike (sp?) viewer.

But this one really had very few redeeming qualities - i do have faith in Eli Roth's writing but this script was dull, unfunny, predictable and just all-in-all a typical cash-in sequel. Probably would have been straight to video without Eli Roth directing and Tarantino once again producing.

The four lead girls were irritating beyond belief... no dimension to their characters (not that it was necessary). Add a dash of lesbian undertones and let's throw in two ould blokes from 'Desperate Housewives' (whose acting and presence was a minor saving grace in the film - the squeamish manner of one VS the confident manner was occasionally fun to watch).

Now for some of the spoilerific details:

** WARNING.. MAJOR PLOT REVELATIONS AHEAD **

Firstly, Paxton's death couldn't have been lamer. I mean christ, showing him with his head cut-off! :rolleyes: And not even witnessing the beheading!

One of the problems the film had was with humour - Eli Roth's scripts can be often very funny and dark comedy comes lightly to him but i felt most of the humour in this was a bit weak. I mean the kids playing football with a head - who hasn't seen a head used as a football in one way or another in any horror out there!?

I quite liked the role reversal between the two males - Stuart and (forget the other blokes name). Stuart's progression over to the "dark side" began as an interesting enough character study / insight but developed into lunacy when he tried to rape the lead for no real reason. His comeuppance was quite horrific though! :eek:

The only other real moment that made me squirm was the sickle - the noise of it scraping against skin was more terrifying than anything. The women bathing in blood underneath was just an excuse for more breasts in a film already populated with enough.

The ending was predictable to say the least. Wouldn't suprise me if we see a third however.

I'd give it a 3 / 10 - passable hour and a half but instantly forgettable!

I dunno why you even bothered with spoilers, its not like it will have any major plot twist If its anything like the first its exactly what it says on the tin, brainless gore and hot bitches No classic, but something to do eh.

Basq

Tha Gopher wrote:

I dunno why you even bothered with spoilers, its not like it will have any major plot twist If its anything like the first its exactly what it says on the tin, brainless gore and hot bitches No classic, but something to do eh.

It's divulging the deaths of the characters... we'll know we die but how is half the fun.

KTRIC

I'm settling down with a pizza and some beer to watch this now. First 20 minutes are fairly predictable and will probably set the pace for the movie.

It'll probably turn out to be a typical gore friday night special. From what I've seen so far it wouldn't justify the €9.20 for a cinema ticket. Just download it from somewhere and enjoy a brainless gore romp when there's nothing worth watching on tv.

KTRIC

After a lot of pizza , some beer and a couple of glasses of Jameson this film didn't get any better. It was very very predicable and the whole thing just blurred from scene to scene with no high points in the plot.

If you liked the first one then by all means watch this and as I said in my last post don't waste €9.20 on a cinema ticket.

Necronomicon

The first was by no means a masterpiece but I loved it, so people calling this predictable won't put me off.

On a related note, however, I was disappointed when I found out that Cabin Fever 2 isn't being directed by Roth.

Basq

As i said Necromomicon, i enjoyed the first one immensely also.

But i'm afraid to say this one was just woeful!

Lirange

There is a niche audience out there. Not many like to talk about it. It's the extreme sadist market. Probably a bigger segment than many of us would like to believe. Basically people that achieve sexual arousal by watching people get tortured and butchered in the most gruesome manner imaginable.

But don't worry. The psychotherapists tell us these sick individuals rarely go whole hog and act on these fantasies. How reassuring.

Necronomicon

Lirange wrote:

There is a niche audience out there. Not many like to talk about it. It's the extreme sadist market. Probably a bigger segment than many of us would like to believe. Basically people that achieve sexual arousal by watching people get tortured and butchered in the most gruesome manner imaginable.

But don't worry. The psychotherapists tell us these sick individuals rarely go whole hog and act on these fantasies. How reassuring.

Grow up ffs. Saying anybody who enjoyed Hostel achieved 'sexual arousal' from the torture scenes is just talking out of your ass.

Lirange

Necromomicon wrote:

Grow up ffs. Saying anybody who enjoyed Hostel achieved 'sexual arousal' from the torture scenes is just talking out of your ass.

My ass told me to tell you that's not what it said.

Some people become sexually stimulated from gore scenes in movies such as Hostel. Fact.

Karl Hungus

Lirange wrote:

Some people become sexually stimulated from gore scenes in movies such as Hostel. Fact.

Some, maybe. But that's hardly why the majority of the audience would like to see a movie like Hostel, and as such, I don't even see how this is particularly relevant. There's people out there who have robot fetishes, but I'd hardly expect anyone to bringe it up on a thread about The Terminator. So can you kindly quit trolling? Thanks a bunch.

Lirange

Karl Hungus wrote:

So can you kindly quit trolling? Thanks a bunch.

Let me try to be more clear. Maybe I wasn't in the beginning. If not my apologies.

The antagonists in Hostel clearly have such a fetish and they go to great lengths to indulge it. The point is that such individuals that get turned on by this are more common in society than people would like to believe. There have been many rumours floating around since the release of the first film (likely untrue) that Hostel is loosely based on actual events. It is one of the more chilling aspects of this movie is that the bad characters in the film do represent a fetish community. One that likes to watch snuff videos and failing that get aroused by anything with gore from Texas Chainsaw Massacre to Devil's Rejects. However in those movies the inflicters are just portrayed as your run of the mill everyday nutter psychopaths. Hostel actually tackles the Taboo and represents the baddies as outwardly everyday citizens who did it for arousal. That is in essence what makes Hostel different. But no matter how many threads you read or conversations you have about the movie the issue is sidestepped and only seldomly addressed. Yet it is at the very centre or heart of the movie.

I don't advocate for it to be censored and it's not the basis for me disliking the film. It's just a major aspect of the film that pertains to actual people in society that have this condition (Yes, more frequent than robot fetishism ... whatever that is). The movie's weak point is the lack of a good plot progression or characters that you care about. The only horror film in recent years to pull off this horror genre with an engaging plot for me was Saw.

Necronomicon

Lirange wrote:

My ass told me to tell you that's not what it said.

Some people become sexually stimulated from gore scenes in movies such as Hostel. Fact.

Fair enough, but your post did come across as a generalisation.

Oh and I was wrong, I was somewhat aroused. When the guys reach Slovakia and the two naked chicks are in the sauna. But the torture? Not my cup of tea

StarryBud

It'll be interesting to see what the Irish censor makes of this. The scene with the bathtub and the scythe is so horribly sadistic and over-the-top. It's so protracted and cruel it's like something out of a 1980s Italian video nasty.

Lirange

Necromomicon wrote:

Oh and I was wrong, I was somewhat aroused. When the guys reach Slovakia and the two naked chicks are in the sauna. But the torture? Not my cup of tea

I'm with you there. Especially the brunette. Can't go amiss with the Czech/Slovak ladies.

Petey2006

Modern audiences have no idea what a decent horror movie is. This sub-genre of torture-porn movies substitute genuine horror for gore. They're tiresome and repetitive.

Duggy747

Petey2006 wrote:

Modern audiences have no idea what a decent horror movie is. This sub-genre of torture-porn movies substitute genuine horror for gore. They're tiresome and repetitive.

Sadly, that is the truth. That being said, though, I always like to see some horrors push the limit. More-so than their remake or run-of-the-mill slasher movie counterparts.

Heisenberg.

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