STT Bubble hand.

Mellor

Not sure if I made the right decision here. Villian is LAG. hit a few lucky hands and the chips were thrown at him. I lost two big hands recently, neither involving the villian, short stack has just doubled up twice, he was on the ropes and is back into the game somewhat.



[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Hand Start.
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Seat 1 : ibefishin has $4,490
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Seat 2 : ROWLPH has $1,630
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Seat 7 : Villian has $9,300
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Seat 8 : Mellor has $2,580
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : ibefishin is the dealer.
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : ROWLPH posted small blind.
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Villian posted big blind.
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Game [33] started with 4 players.

[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 1 21:35:18] : Seat 8 : Mellor has Qd Qs
[Jan 1 21:35:20] : Mellor88 called 200 and raised 400
[Jan 1 21:35:21] : ibefishin folded.
[Jan 1 21:35:23] : ROWLPH folded.
[Jan 1 21:35:23] : Villian called 400
[Jan 1 21:35:23] : Dealing flop. Pot 1300

[Jan 1 21:35:23] : Board cards [Tc 2d Kd]
[Jan 1 21:35:24] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 6 min.
[Jan 1 21:35:26] : Villian checked.
[Jan 1 21:35:26] : Mellor ????

What should I do, check or bet. I have 1980, pot is 1300.

shoutman

I think this is very much villain dependent, does he bet out with top pair. does he normally bet out any flop if caling a re-raise?

Is this check strange?

Mellor

He would check if he hit. I think. Wouldn't ever bet out if calling a raise. His range is pretty big, and he will call with draws and bottom pair etc

shoutman

Well if you fold you are shortstacked so will be looking to push soon after now its just a case of is second pair good enough against this opponent, if he jammed a set or bottom two its just unlucky if he is playing with k rag ditto, I'd just push and hope he calls with a dodgy draw and misses.

dvdfan

with Villain being LAG i wouldnt mind pushing preflop or raising more because your going to be OOP after the flop.

Saying that nothing wrong with the raise and it was a terrible flop so i would check/fold now unless you have a read and it seems hes a bit tricky and youve still 1900 left. if you had AT on this flop you'd still only have middle pair and youd probably check/fold too. QQ was a great hand preflop but its nothing more than middle pair now if he has Kx.

BobSloane

Think I'm betting 700 on that flop and calling a push. He probably will push too but with a 10, QJ, 2 diamonds or maybe even a lot less.
If you're beat then you're beat. Can't fold QQ to one overcard against a LAG when you're shortstacked. Bubble or no bubble. You're going to get it all in on a coinflip probably at best very soon and I'd take a made hand against a LAG(who you have no real reason to believe has a K) over a coinflip

Sometimes you have to look for reasons to bet and push instead of folding and you will be pleasantly surprised(sometimes). Maybe not this time but thats still my line in this situation

If its any consolation you'll have backdoor straight and flush draws...lol

bops

i think just be done with it and get it all in - he has massive stack and is the BB and the deck is hitting him in the face - he would have called your raise with any 2 and will call your push with any pair/ any draw.

If he has a K or sucks out - so be it

Mellor

Well I felt i couldn't give him a free card. So had to bet it. If I led out with a decent bet say 600/800. i'll get it all in to a re-raise or a rag turn. So i decided to go all-in, i figured if he had a king, so be it, he would call any other pair (10, or even a 2), and if he had a draw I was happy with it).

So I push for 1900, he insta-calls with 10 2 offsuit

BobSloane

Mellor wrote:

So I push for 1900, he insta-calls with 10 2 offsuit

Who was it? Texas Dolly?
You can't beat yourself up over a hand like this. As Bops said the deck was hitting him in the face.

I still prefer a smaller bet here with the intension of getting it all-in to a raise or any card on the turn. All-in reeks of panic and desperation to me and if you get called and survive this hand, half pot size bets may be enough to take down pots when you have nothing later after everyone has seen what you showed down here

Mellor

i figured he was calling with any made or drawing hand. calling an all-in or a half pot bet. If it was all going in to a raise or on the turn, then whats the difference. it is appeared panicy, then fine as it would only increase his range at the lower end which is better for me

BobSloane

Yeah I know what you're saying. It really doesn't matter with respect to this hand. My line is that its better to win this pot with a half pot bet and then all-in than just a one move all-in if he calls. You win the pot and you have 5k approx. I think if you take this pot in 2 steps it makes your half pot bet maybe in 5 hands time when you raise with A9 and get a J 6 4 board more credible.
Just the way I'd do it - not neccessarily right.