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Air Traffic Control - "Delta 17 Heavy"

  • 31-12-2006 2:21pm
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    Listening to Air Traffic Control over live web streams and I hear things like "Delta 17 Heavy". What does the heavy mean? That it's full of passengers? Running out of fuel?

    Thanks.


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  • #2
    Wishbone Ash
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    ciaranfo wrote:
    Listening to Air Traffic Control over live web streams and I hear things like "Delta 17 Heavy". What does the heavy mean? That it's full of passengers? Running out of fuel?

    Thanks.
    AFAIK it means a large bodied plane.


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    DonkeyStyle \o/
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    http://www.canairradio.com/intro.html wrote:
    The term heavy applies to aircraft that are capable of a takeoff weight of 300,000 lbs or more, examples include B-747, B-767, MD-11 to name a few.
    Interesting.


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    So then in English this would read "Don't get in it's way or it'll knock you out of the sky" ?

    Cheers :)


    p.s. is this the right forum for this sorta thing?


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    DonkeyStyle \o/
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    ciaranfo wrote:
    p.s. is this the right forum for this sorta thing?
    Well people talk about airports here, but they're usually of the Apple variety. ;)


  • #6
    Wishbone Ash
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    Are you listening at the moment lads? A craft has declared an emergency (Dublin) at 3000 feet.


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    Wishbone Ash
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    CityJet - 93 on board.


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    Wishbone Ash wrote:
    Are you listening at the moment lads? A craft has declared an emergency (Dublin) at 3000 feet.
    Really? Link to the feed?


  • #9
    Wishbone Ash
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    ciaranfo wrote:
    Really? Link to the feed?
    Listening on scanner. ;)


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    Wishbone Ash wrote:
    Listening on scanner. ;)
    Trying to find the DUblin feed on www.liveatc.net but it seems to have disappeared :(

    ++ edit ++
    It's down is why http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=international :(


  • #11
    Wishbone Ash
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    Dublin Airport Fire Service - "All units stand down"


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    Wishbone Ash wrote:
    Dublin Airport Fire Service - "All units stand down"
    I guess this sorta thing happens all the time... an "emergency" ranges from the wing falling off to the Captain sneezing?


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    fatherdougalmag
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    Maybe they ran out of bum wipes or something.


  • #14
    Lafortezza
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    Wishbone Ash wrote:
    Are you listening at the moment lads? A craft has declared an emergency (Dublin) at 3000 feet.
    As somebody else said, this is very common. An emergency is any small malfunction that could become a larger problem.

    Airport police stories >> Air Traffic stories.


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    Wishbone Ash
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    lafortezza wrote:
    As somebody else said, this is very common. An emergency is any small malfunction that could become a larger problem.
    Yes, I'm not really into ATC, and just stumbled on DAFS frequency while scanning for something else. The pilot issued a 'pan pan' prior to issuing the emergency. I just mentioned it as there was a 'live' thread going at the time.


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    I'm sure it makes things all the more exciting in ATC :)

    What's a "pan pan" ?


  • #17
    Snowbat
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    Pan-pan is a declaration of an emergency that does not pose immediate danger to anyone's life or to the vessel itself.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-pan

    Regarding Heavy, as much a case of don't get in it's wake or it'll knock you out of the sky as "don't get in it's way or it'll knock you out of the sky".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_turbulence


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