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Dog Walking group

  • 31-12-2006 12:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10


    Hi, :)

    I am looking to begin a dog walking club..................just something informal where owners along with their beloved dogs meet up perhaps once or twice a month for walks in the country, beach or hills etc....................I am based in North County Dublin

    Anyone interested????

    Cheers,

    Subiaco.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I might be interested. It depends on where you'd be walking as my dog does n't like long car journeys. I live in north Dublin. As a keen hill walker may I advise that all dogs be kept on a leash if walking in the hills. When dogs are in a pack they can worry sheep ( this goes for the small, normally docile dog as well ). :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    Right thanks Rigsby...........and thanks for the lecture on how not to worry sheep.....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    subiaco wrote:
    Right thanks Rigsby...........and thanks for the lecture on how not to worry sheep.....:rolleyes:
    I'm sorry you thought I was lecturing, but I've seen yews and their lambs which have been torn asunder by dogs. Not a pretty sight I can tell you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    subiaco wrote:
    Right thanks Rigsby...........and thanks for the lecture on how not to worry sheep.....:rolleyes:

    Its a good and very important point for all involved, you are talking about forming a group, and it was'nt aimed specifically at you. No need to be offended. Any group activity should have rules and guidlines. Specially where there is the potential for danger to or by animals and owners you have no prior knowledge of.

    Also, this has been playing on my mind, may sound OTT but Im going to say it anyways.
    Whle I do think these dog walking clubs are a very good idea and can if properly arranged provide safety and social benefits for pets AND pet owners alike......

    Boards.ie and its moderators / admins / owners, take NO responsibility for the organisation of or safety of any of these dog-walking trips or those who take part.
    (In other words, if you agree to go walk in the woods with somone and he or she turns out to be a serial killer, dont come cryin to us :rolleyes:;) )

    B :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Ace1


    Great Idea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    You know what guys...............

    Let me firstly say that I whole heartedly respect both of your view points on this issue, they are all valid and true.

    I do however want to express my slight disappointment at the negative slant both of you have put on this topic. All dog owners (responsible or otherwise) are well aware of their obligations while out walking no matter what environment they are walking in whether it be hills, fields, roads etc.

    My initial posted question was "if anyone was interested in being part of a dog walking group?", It was not "what do you thing the guidelines for such a group should be?"

    As with the majority of these types of informal groups and clubs the members decide on the direction it takes and the rules/guidelines they are governed by.

    So on this basis, and with respect, I feel you are both a little early to be pontificating on the do's and dont's of a proposed group/club. Lets wait and see if there is sufficient interest in such a group and get a feel for the people who would like to be part of it. Then we can discuss the group guidelines and member expectations prior to any meeting of such people for a walk with our dogs.

    In regard to Franknfurters comment..........
    "Boards.ie and its moderators / admins / owners, take NO responsibility for the organisation of or safety of any of these dog-walking trips or those who take part."

    Surely you can see with this type of comment (franknfurters first on this thread) and its negative tone why I take umbrage to it. I believe this comment is patronising and over the top in the context of the discussion at this time. I would also like to point out that the same "disclaimer" comment could arguably be added to several of the threads that Franknfurter has contributed to but from what I can gather from viewing other comments made it has not............so why single this group out for such a denunciation?

    As already mentioned I respect your expressed viewpoints but I believe you are throwing a negative aspersion on the group before it even begins and have been too quick to comment on something you don't have enough information on. (ie. a group that has no members and an assumption that all members are irresponsible dog owners and that there is a chance you could be walking your dog with a serial killer etc etc !!) It would be much more beneficial for everyone if initially a more positive approach was taken on such discussions and then when everyone settles down and introduces themselves, a proper well informed consensus of opinion can be arrived at on the groups responsibilities and guidelines that must be adhered to by all of its members.

    I trust you take the above comments and opinions in the good faith they are intended, as I have yours, but acknowledge that perhaps you have been a little too energetic with your comments.

    Lets try be more positive (while being responsible of course) God only knows there is way too much negativity around.

    All I'm trying to do here is get a group of like-minded people together for fun and enjoyment and not to have the rule book thrown at me.

    Anyway.........Im passionate about this issue, group and my dog.............I assume you will at least acknowledge this as being something positive!

    Subiaco.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    Thanks Ace1........do you have any views on the above:confused:

    Subiaco


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    They`re just typing what every dog walker/owner should already know, yet there are those that don`t know or even give a damn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    I would agree with you Doctor Evil regarding some dog owners not giving a damn about their responsibilities but I believe even they know well what their responsinilities are. As my previous point states there is an assumption being made here that this group or people associated with it will act or behave in the negative.

    Subiaco


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    Subiaco,
    You are new here and have probably not seen some of the animal owners we have had come here and ask the most basic of q's even having had said animals for years. It is a bad idea to assume all dog owners are as responsible and informed as you are.

    Its not a matter of assuming the worst, its a matter of making sure the worst dose'nt have a chance to happen.

    While I am sure your group would be responsible, believe it or not, there are people out there who like to cause harm and can be very convincing in their apparent "nice-ness". There are also people, whether you think so or not, who would come back here and say "such-and-such did such-and-such on that walk organised on boards.ie"

    Whether you believe this to be true or not, it happens and has to be made clear from the outset.

    Personally, as I said, I believe these walking clubs can be GREAT, and there have been times I would have loved to be part of such a thing in the past.
    I would never try and discourage people from such a thing, however I dont see it as unreasonable to make sure that people realise that just because they arranged it via this forum, does not mean we are in any way responsible or associated with it.

    B


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    subiaco wrote:
    Right thanks Rigsby...........and thanks for the lecture on how not to worry sheep.....:rolleyes:
    It appears to me subiaco that we are having this discussion because of the above sarcastic remark. I was'nt been negative, I merely advised people to be safe and responsible. If you had replied to my initial post with something like : "thanks Rigsby, I'll take on board your advice if the group gets going" I doubt we 'd be gone off on this tangent. I also responded to your post by saying I was interested ( I'm not so sure now ).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Folks, folks, relax.
    So somebody gave advice that the other person already knew, so what. I think this would be a good idea, as long as all the dogs were able to get along!
    I would advise starting small, and gradually introduce each dog one by one.

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    sinecurea wrote:
    Folks, folks, relax.
    So somebody gave advice that the other person already knew, so what. I think this would be a good idea, as long as all the dogs were able to get along!
    I would advise starting small, and gradually introduce each dog one by one.

    S.

    Agreed :)
    And Ill tell ya somthing, in my experience there would be a lot of people interested in this. It would be a great way of people getting to know each other too!

    B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    OK

    I'm going to put my final nail in this!

    Rigsby to correct you your original post stated you might be interested not you were interested, review it to see please. In addition I am sick and tired of do gooders (which is in my opinion how your response came across) trying be negative all the time, hence my sarcastic reply.

    I'm only interested in people who have a positive attitude to start with and not a negative comment right from the start.

    Thats my view and I'm sticking with it................... whether you want to be a part of the group or not is your decision Id prefer myself if you were to be part of it you could please offer something positive as you have failed to do this so far on the original question ............all I have heard from you is.........I might be interested...........my dog gets sick on long journeys..........dont be worrying sheep on these walks........it depends on where you are walking........etc ............all rather moany, negative, doom and gloom comments in my opinion. In addition it was actually you who brought the conversation of on a tangent .............As I have already stated, my original question was......... "Is anyone interested in a dog walking group?" it was then you who began on the terms and conditions of becoming a member.

    To move on...........

    Ive said all I'm going to say regarding these comments, its history now but I think we both have a clear picture of each other now.


    Lets stick to the original question for now and we will get to the ins and outs of the group later/

    I do think both sinecurea and FranknFurters last comments are great ideas and positively productive.

    Subiaco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    subiaco wrote:
    OK

    I'm going to put my final nail in this!

    Rigsby to correct you your original post stated you might be interested not you were interested, review it to see please. In addition I am sick and tired of do gooders (which is in my opinion how your response came across) trying be negative all the time, hence my sarcastic reply.

    I'm only interested in people who have a positive attitude to start with and not a negative comment right from the start.

    Thats my view and I'm sticking with it................... whether you want to be a part of the group or not is your decision Id prefer myself if you were to be part of it you could please offer something positive as you have failed to do this so far on the original question ............all I have heard from you is.........I might be interested...........my dog gets sick on long journeys..........dont be worrying sheep on these walks........it depends on where you are walking........etc ............all rather moany, negative, doom and gloom comments in my opinion. In addition it was actually you who brought the conversation of on a tangent .............As I have already stated, my original question was......... "Is anyone interested in a dog walking group?" it was then you who began on the terms and conditions of becoming a member.

    To move on...........

    Ive said all I'm going to say regarding these comments, its history now but I think we both have a clear picture of each other now.


    Lets stick to the original question for now and we will get to the ins and outs of the group later/

    I do think both sinecurea and FranknFurters last comments are great ideas and positively productive.

    Subiaco
    My final post on this thread : If encouraging safety and responsibility while walking a pack of dogs on the hills is regarded as being a do-gooder and a moan.... well I've no answer to that. Good luck in forming the group :)

    Over and positively out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    Well rig i think you were very right in point out that and giving this piece if advice. A lot of people bring their dogs out for walks and let them off leads and dont think of the consequences. It isnt your fault if people want to take advice, given here in the best of light, in the wrong way that is their own fault but fair play to you for being responsible enough to mention it!

    Job well done!

    Also i would advise that if you are thinking of forming a dog walking group you should make sure their vaccinations are up to date also worming and flea treatments, may seem a bit over the top but some diesease are quite easily caught between dogs i.e. kennel cough. Also might seem a bit obvious to some but you have to be very very careful with intact bitches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    Jules80 I take it you are not interested in joining this group...........

    For anyone else please post replies that are relevant to the original question............Anyone interested in a dog walking group?

    Subiaco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    subiaco,

    take some advice when it is given and don't be so ignorant towards people who are trying to be helpful!

    thank you very much for being a concerned pet owner!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    Sorry if I need yours or anyone else's advice on here I will ask for it within the correct forum.

    Thanks for your words of wisdom however:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    ... can't be bothered!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    jules80 wrote:
    don't be ignorant

    "Ignorant" is not the correct word to use. Please, and I mean this in the politest way possible, look up the meaning of the word then post again.
    I think you might mean "arrogant".
    I'm not being pedantic, but it's a critical word to get right in the whole theme of this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    no i think ignorant is the word i was looking for, unless im completley stupid, which i will be the first to admit, happens a lot!

    Ignorance 1) is a lack of knowledge. Ignorance is also a "state of being ignorant" or unaware/uninformed

    actually think both are kind of fitting!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco


    Wow ................you guys really are good. I'm astonished at the passion you have for the English language. Funny thing is you have all seemed to miss the original question in your reading of this thread. Too much time to be going and looking up dictionaries in my opinion:rolleyes:

    Strange people out there huh:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    If your going to form agroup it may be a good idea to sort your self out with some insurance and perhaps a charter that all members must sign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    OK, this has gone too far.
    Back on topic everyone or their will be bannage.
    Dont bother with the "but I was only...." either. If you have an issue with a user PM that user do not bring it into the thread.

    Lets just get back on topic. Anyone who is interested in going dog-walking say-so. I think the (extremely valid), talk of ideas about safety has been made.

    FnF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 subiaco



    here here !!

    Well done for fulfilling your moderator duties franknfurter;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭FranknFurter


    subiaco banned for posting off topic. And right after recieving a warning tut-tut.

    FnF


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