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Petition to revoke the independence of the United States of America

  • 29-12-2006 6:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭


    To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories.

    Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

    Your new Prime Minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair MP, for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a Minister for America without the need for further elections.

    The House of Representatives and the Senate will be disbanded.

    A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

    1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.

    The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'; skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters.

    You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."

    You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to re-spell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.

    Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up “vocabulary." Using the same thirty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "uhh", "like", and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.

    Look up "interspersed."

    There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary, then you won't have to use bad language as often.

    2. There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

    3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier).

    You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents --- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.

    While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

    4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters.

    British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness. Popular British films such as the Italian Job and the Wicker Man should never be remade.

    5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

    6. You should stop playing American "football." There are other types of football such as Rugby, Aussie Rules & Gaelic football. However proper football - which will no longer be known as soccer, is the best known, most loved and most popular. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.

    The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.

    Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies).

    We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2008.

    You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of North America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders," which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

    7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

    8. The 4th of July is no longer a public holiday. The 2nd of November will be a new national holiday, but only in Britain. It will be called "Indecisive Day."

    9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap, and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

    All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

    10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call 'French fries' are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat.

    Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

    11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

    12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling "beer" is not actually beer at all, it is lager . From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer," and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager." The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine." This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in the Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

    13. From the 10th of November the UK will harmonise petrol (or "gasoline," as you will be permitted to keep calling it until the 1st of April) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon -- get used to it).

    14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

    15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

    16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

    Thank you for your co-operation.
    Contact InfoWebsite:
    www.fco.gov.uk
    Office:
    Foreign & Commonwealth Office
    Street:
    King Charles Street
    City:
    London, England


    This may be old now, but its still very funny :rolleyes:


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    ye, got a chuckle outa me back in 2004 too. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    SUBJECT: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

    To the citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

    We welcome your concern about our electoral process. It must be exciting for you to see a real Republic in action, even if from a distance. As always we’re amused by your quaint belief that you’re actually a world power. The sun never sets on the British Empire! Right-o chum!

    However, we regretfully have to decline your offer for intervention. On the other hand, it would be amusing to see you try to enforce your new policy (for the 96.3% of you that seem to have forgotten that you have little to no real power). After much deliberation, we have decided to continue our tradition as the longest running democratic republic. It seems that switching to a monarchy is in fact considered a “backwards step” by the majority of the world.

    To help you rise from your current anachronistic status, we have compiled a series of helpful suggestions that we hope you adopt:

    1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren’t always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let’s use your “aluminium” example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name “aluminum” (note spelling) for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into “aluminium” to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry. We’d also like to point out that the process of actually producing aluminum was developed by an American and a Frenchman (not an Englishman).

    However, we’d like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It’s an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Charles Minor.

    2. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we’ll talk about the English and Australian accent issue.

    3. Review your basic arithmetic. (Hint 100 – 98.85 = 1.15 and 100 – 97.85 = 2.15)

    4. If you want English actors as good guys, then make your own movies. Don’t rely on us for your modern popular culture. We liked “Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels”, “Trainspotting”, and “The Full Monty”. We’ve also heard good things about this “Billy Elliot”. But one good movie a year doesn’t exactly make a cultural powerhouse. However, you’re doing pretty well with music, so keep up the good work on that front.

    5. It’s inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies. Let’s not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. We suggest switching to that Rule Brittania ditty, it’s toetapping. Or maybe Elton John could adapt “Candle In The Wind” again for you guys.

    6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men’s soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close. By the way, impressive showing at Euro 2000. You almost managed to get through the tournament without having your fans start an international incident.

    7. Learn how to cook. England has some top notch candy. Salt ‘n’ Vinegar chips are quite yummy. However, there’s a reason why the best food in your country is Indian or Chinese. Your contributions to the culinary arts are soggy beans, warm beer, and spotted dick. Perhaps when you finally realize the French aren’t the spawn of satan they’ll teach you how to cook.

    8. You’re doing a terrible job at understanding cars. The obvious error is that you drive on the wrong side of the road. A second problem is pricing, it’s cheaper to buy a car in Belgium and ship it to England than to buy a car in England. On the other hand, we like Jaguars and Aston Martins. That’s why we bought the companies.

    9. We’ll tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for “Teletubbies”.

    Thank you for your time. You can now return to watching bad Australian soap operas.

    P.S. — Regarding WW2: You’re Welcome.

    This is almost as old, but still funny too :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The British would have to revoke most countries independance. Lets face it we voted in Bertie and Co., the austrailians don't do much better and then there is Pakistan and India.

    Wait with Tony Blair in power it can only be up to the grace of god that The Monarchy Reins again. Down with Democracy, it's a pain in the royal behind.

    Ordinary people shouldn't have to get up out of bed to vote, their better off working (for as little as possible).

    I mean this idea that one is free. No better enslave everyone, then you don't have problems.

    Just listen to the Queens Speech at Christmas to remember that the World is all good and there are no probs.

    IMO lets just get rid of all of the politicans and have one ruler who will give us what we need, after all politicans only promise stuff then never actually do anything.

    Also there is no such word as GOTTEN in English the word is GOT :)

    Both post very funny, I am just trying too hard :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Posted a couple of times in Humour. I think it was John Cleese who done one of these. Bumped over to the AH subforum (or not).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    SUBJECT: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

    To the citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

    We welcome your concern about our electoral process. It must be exciting for you to see a real Republic in action, even if from a distance. As always we’re amused by your quaint belief that you’re actually a world power. The sun never sets on the British Empire! Right-o chum!

    However, we regretfully have to decline your offer for intervention. On the other hand, it would be amusing to see you try to enforce your new policy (for the 96.3% of you that seem to have forgotten that you have little to no real power). After much deliberation, we have decided to continue our tradition as the longest running democratic republic. It seems that switching to a monarchy is in fact considered a “backwards step” by the majority of the world.

    To help you rise from your current anachronistic status, we have compiled a series of helpful suggestions that we hope you adopt:

    1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren’t always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let’s use your “aluminium” example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name “aluminum” (note spelling) for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into “aluminium” to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry. We’d also like to point out that the process of actually producing aluminum was developed by an American and a Frenchman (not an Englishman).

    However, we’d like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It’s an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Charles Minor.

    2. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we’ll talk about the English and Australian accent issue.

    3. Review your basic arithmetic. (Hint 100 – 98.85 = 1.15 and 100 – 97.85 = 2.15)

    4. If you want English actors as good guys, then make your own movies. Don’t rely on us for your modern popular culture. We liked “Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels”, “Trainspotting”, and “The Full Monty”. We’ve also heard good things about this “Billy Elliot”. But one good movie a year doesn’t exactly make a cultural powerhouse. However, you’re doing pretty well with music, so keep up the good work on that front.

    5. It’s inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies. Let’s not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. We suggest switching to that Rule Brittania ditty, it’s toetapping. Or maybe Elton John could adapt “Candle In The Wind” again for you guys.

    6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men’s soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close. By the way, impressive showing at Euro 2000. You almost managed to get through the tournament without having your fans start an international incident.

    7. Learn how to cook. England has some top notch candy. Salt ‘n’ Vinegar chips are quite yummy. However, there’s a reason why the best food in your country is Indian or Chinese. Your contributions to the culinary arts are soggy beans, warm beer, and spotted dick. Perhaps when you finally realize the French aren’t the spawn of satan they’ll teach you how to cook.

    8. You’re doing a terrible job at understanding cars. The obvious error is that you drive on the wrong side of the road. A second problem is pricing, it’s cheaper to buy a car in Belgium and ship it to England than to buy a car in England. On the other hand, we like Jaguars and Aston Martins. That’s why we bought the companies.

    9. We’ll tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for “Teletubbies”.

    Thank you for your time. You can now return to watching bad Australian soap operas.

    P.S. — Regarding WW2: You’re Welcome.

    This is almost as old, but still funny too :D

    That isn't funny. At all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    sjones wrote:
    That isn't funny. At all.

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Gautama


    anti wrote:
    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories.

    Ms Windsor owns 1/6 of the land surface of the world. I don't think she wants any more.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Been kicking around for a long time, wasn' John Cleese seemingly.

    Clicky


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭coyote6


    Funny.

    We're the same ignorant rednecks who kicked there a@# during the revolution and we'd be much abliged to do it again!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    SUBJECT: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

    To the citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

    We welcome your concern about our electoral process. It must be exciting for you to see a real Republic in action, even if from a distance. As always we’re amused by your quaint belief that you’re actually a world power. The sun never sets on the British Empire! Right-o chum!

    However, we regretfully have to decline your offer for intervention. On the other hand, it would be amusing to see you try to enforce your new policy (for the 96.3% of you that seem to have forgotten that you have little to no real power). After much deliberation, we have decided to continue our tradition as the longest running democratic republic. It seems that switching to a monarchy is in fact considered a “backwards step” by the majority of the world.

    To help you rise from your current anachronistic status, we have compiled a series of helpful suggestions that we hope you adopt:

    1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren’t always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let’s use your “aluminium” example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name “aluminum” (note spelling) for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into “aluminium” to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry. We’d also like to point out that the process of actually producing aluminum was developed by an American and a Frenchman (not an Englishman).

    However, we’d like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It’s an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Charles Minor.

    2. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we’ll talk about the English and Australian accent issue.

    3. Review your basic arithmetic. (Hint 100 – 98.85 = 1.15 and 100 – 97.85 = 2.15)

    4. If you want English actors as good guys, then make your own movies. Don’t rely on us for your modern popular culture. We liked “Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels”, “Trainspotting”, and “The Full Monty”. We’ve also heard good things about this “Billy Elliot”. But one good movie a year doesn’t exactly make a cultural powerhouse. However, you’re doing pretty well with music, so keep up the good work on that front.

    5. It’s inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies. Let’s not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. We suggest switching to that Rule Brittania ditty, it’s toetapping. Or maybe Elton John could adapt “Candle In The Wind” again for you guys.

    6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men’s soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close. By the way, impressive showing at Euro 2000. You almost managed to get through the tournament without having your fans start an international incident.

    7. Learn how to cook. England has some top notch candy. Salt ‘n’ Vinegar chips are quite yummy. However, there’s a reason why the best food in your country is Indian or Chinese. Your contributions to the culinary arts are soggy beans, warm beer, and spotted dick. Perhaps when you finally realize the French aren’t the spawn of satan they’ll teach you how to cook.

    8. You’re doing a terrible job at understanding cars. The obvious error is that you drive on the wrong side of the road. A second problem is pricing, it’s cheaper to buy a car in Belgium and ship it to England than to buy a car in England. On the other hand, we like Jaguars and Aston Martins. That’s why we bought the companies.

    9. We’ll tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for “Teletubbies”.

    Thank you for your time. You can now return to watching bad Australian soap operas.

    P.S. — Regarding WW2: You’re Welcome.

    This is almost as old, but still funny too :D

    Very good. You could add the fall=autumn thing to the aluminum argument for good measure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    i hate to see such desperate attempts at humour still fail so miserably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭ai ing


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by metaoblivia
    SUBJECT: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

    To the citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

    We welcome your concern about our electoral process. It must be exciting for you to see a real Republic in action, even if from a distance. As always we’re amused by your quaint belief that you’re actually a world power. The sun never sets on the British Empire! Right-o chum!

    However, we regretfully have to decline your offer for intervention. On the other hand, it would be amusing to see you try to enforce your new policy (for the 96.3% of you that seem to have forgotten that you have little to no real power). After much deliberation, we have decided to continue our tradition as the longest running democratic republic. It seems that switching to a monarchy is in fact considered a “backwards step” by the majority of the world.

    To help you rise from your current anachronistic status, we have compiled a series of helpful suggestions that we hope you adopt:

    1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren’t always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let’s use your “aluminium” example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name “aluminum” (note spelling) for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into “aluminium” to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry. We’d also like to point out that the process of actually producing aluminum was developed by an American and a Frenchman (not an Englishman).

    However, we’d like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It’s an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Charles Minor.

    2. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we’ll talk about the English and Australian accent issue.

    3. Review your basic arithmetic. (Hint 100 – 98.85 = 1.15 and 100 – 97.85 = 2.15)

    4. If you want English actors as good guys, then make your own movies. Don’t rely on us for your modern popular culture. We liked “Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels”, “Trainspotting”, and “The Full Monty”. We’ve also heard good things about this “Billy Elliot”. But one good movie a year doesn’t exactly make a cultural powerhouse. However, you’re doing pretty well with music, so keep up the good work on that front.

    5. It’s inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies. Let’s not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. We suggest switching to that Rule Brittania ditty, it’s toetapping. Or maybe Elton John could adapt “Candle In The Wind” again for you guys.

    6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men’s soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close. By the way, impressive showing at Euro 2000. You almost managed to get through the tournament without having your fans start an international incident.

    7. Learn how to cook. England has some top notch candy. Salt ‘n’ Vinegar chips are quite yummy. However, there’s a reason why the best food in your country is Indian or Chinese. Your contributions to the culinary arts are soggy beans, warm beer, and spotted dick. Perhaps when you finally realize the French aren’t the spawn of satan they’ll teach you how to cook.

    8. You’re doing a terrible job at understanding cars. The obvious error is that you drive on the wrong side of the road. A second problem is pricing, it’s cheaper to buy a car in Belgium and ship it to England than to buy a car in England. On the other hand, we like Jaguars and Aston Martins. That’s why we bought the companies.

    9. We’ll tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for “Teletubbies”.

    Thank you for your time. You can now return to watching bad Australian soap operas.

    P.S. — Regarding WW2: You’re Welcome.

    This is almost as old, but still funny too http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif



    Very good. You could add the fall=autumn thing to the aluminum argument for good measure.
    Why do people feel the need to quote a whole article like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I thought they were both very funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    ai ing wrote:
    Why do people feel the need to quote a whole article like this?

    Thats supposed to be ironic right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Jim236


    To the citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

    Theres no such place, you must be thinking of the United Kingdom of Great Britain ;) . The North of Ireland which you mistake as being part of the UK is occupied by British forces, and has been from the time they imposed the above ****e on Irish people and divided this island for their own benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    Jim236 wrote:
    Theres no such place, you must be thinking of the United Kingdom of Great Britain ;) . The North of Ireland which you mistake as being part of the UK is occupied by British forces, and has been from the time they imposed the above ****e on Irish people and divided this island for their own benefit.
    yawn yawn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Gautama


    Jim236 wrote:
    Theres no such place, you must be thinking of the United Kingdom of Great Britain ;) . The North of Ireland which you mistake as being part of the UK is occupied by British forces, and has been from the time they imposed the above ****e on Irish people and divided this island for their own benefit.

    Nope, this is wrong.
    Great Britain refers to the island that is composed of England, Scotland and Wales (and some bits n pieces).
    Northern Ireland refers to six counties (ie Ulster minus Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan) that was parted from the remainder of Ireland as a result of a majority vote in an Irish referendum in the early 1920ies.

    Together, these two entities are known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    The North of Ireland is a non-place as such, it could include Donegal and Louth if you want. It's like the term "The East of Ireland". It's geographic rather than political. Northern Ireland, however, is a political term.

    There would have been no Celtic Tiger in a 32 County Ireland!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    On a related note, there is a lot of legal jurisprudential evidence (which I won't go into) to the effect that the UK Parliament can still make laws with legal effect over the Republic of Ireland. Whether they would, or whether we'd obey them is totally different matter though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Gautama wrote:
    Nope, this is wrong.
    Great Britain refers to the island that is composed of England, Scotland and Wales (and some bits n pieces).
    Northern Ireland refers to six counties (ie Ulster minus Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan) that was parted from the remainder of Ireland as a result of a majority vote in an Irish referendum in the early 1920ies.

    What referendum? There was no referendum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Gautama


    What referendum? There was no referendum.

    Apologies, to call it a referendum was imprecise.
    There was a general election which was regarded as a de-facto referendum.
    Those in favour of independence under the Anglo-Irish Treaty voted for one party, those opposed voted with the other... blah blah blah.

    I wasn't there so I'll stop writing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    There would have been no Celtic Tiger in a 32 County Ireland!

    Ok getting political.

    If my history is correct didn't the unionist say the same thing in the 1920's that with there strong trade with Great Britian Ireland couldn't survive on its own. (I am not suggesting that we do survive on our own but we make trade agreements on our own terms, with a varity of countries.)

    Not the Cletic tiger has anything to do with the house boom across the border, no not at all. And the peace process of the 1990's has nothing to do with the Celtic Tiger.

    Let face it Micheal Collins was bullied into the treaty, the free state and the land commission didn't really do a good job of splitting the country up, after all parts of donegal where supposed to be in the North while parts of Fermanagh where supposed to be in the south.

    Did the whole country get to vote in this defacto referendum or just the 26 counties?

    Remember before 1922 Ireland was united. No as usual in this country we turn our backs on the needy and lead Nationalist in the north in to a gerrymandering Protestant Republic of Northern Ireland, while Rome grip the south. Bravo.

    Great refurendum to hold when you don't let the whole country partake in it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Elmo wrote:
    Ok getting political.

    Don't you mean opinionated? Your sig certainly doesn't suggest an objective viewpoint on this matter...And I think its already been cleared up that there was no referendum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Your sig certainly doesn't suggest an objective viewpoint on this matter

    Actually it does, you should actually read it, its about peace nothing else and the lack of morals that most politicians have in this country.

    I don't think my signature takes any sides.

    But then you can always read into my signature how you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men’s soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close.

    Hehe proof whoever wrote this is a complete tool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Lovely stuff lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 TheDrunkenBrain


    How many elephants are there in this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Jim236 wrote:
    Theres no such place, you must be thinking of the United Kingdom of Great Britain ;) . The North of Ireland which you mistake as being part of the UK is occupied by British forces, and has been from the time they imposed the above ****e on Irish people and divided this island for their own benefit.
    Aah, yes - I knew that if I kept reading thi thread long enough, I'd fing somethign to make me laugh:p :p:p !

    Thank you!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Also just to point out that in the 1918 All Ireland General Election for Westminster seats

    Sinn Fein and the Irish Parliamentary Party had 69% of the Vote getting 79 Seats (73 SF (Abstain from entering Westminster) and 6 IPP).

    While The Irish Unionist and Labour Unionist had 23% of the Vote getting 25 seats (22 (IU) and 3 (LU)).

    The last of the 105 seats when to an Independent Unionist.

    So if you like we could take that as the "Defacto" Referendum.

    Or we could diminish the votes of poor nationalist and unionist in northern Ireland by allowing the implementation of Gerrymandering across the Six counties.


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