5/10 Half Pot HE

BrokenArrows

This hand occured yesterday. I have 1100 behind and villan has about 1500

Get delt K9c as the dealer. Villan is in the BB.

UTG makes it 25 straight. 4 callers.

FLOP (5c Qd 8c) POT 100

SB checks, Villan bets 25, UTG folds

This was very strange. At this table almost 100% of the time people will bet the full half pot. Especially when its so small.

I call. SB calls.

Turn 7c. POT 175

SB checks. Villan makes it 25 again. WTF is that about. So i half pot it to 140 straight.

Villan Quickly calls.

River X Pot 480

Villan checks I bet 240, villan reraises the max to just under 500 to call.

500 to call. ?? Pot is now about 1500

Villan is no fish but has bluffed a bit on pretty large pots. Has also called on pretty marginal hands.

robinlacey

i'd just push,you have the second nuts,stacks aren't that deep,you may as well get as much as you can out of it when you're ahead,which is almost all the time in my opinion...

(this is presuming the river didn't pair the board)

where were you playing this game?

never played or seen half pot limit anywhere

BrokenArrows

Call and villan shows AJc. AHHHHHHHH

Im in australia. They are running it in my local casino.

jbravado

He has third nuts as far as I can see.
Looks like a hand that pays off the second nuts...dont like the way u played it much.......Are you suggesting folding the river?




Posted prior to spoiler.......bb ul.

Hectorjelly

Half pot is a really stupid game, you can never fold draws even if you want to.

Hectorjelly

You shouldnt give the results so soon. Also this is a spot where I would consider folding if the bet was bigger, (im certainly not raising). The guy bets small on the turn when the flush comes, cold calls the raise and then ch k raises a blank river? He clearly has a flush himself, and he isnt worried about you having one.

robinlacey

Hectorjelly wrote:

Half pot is a really stupid game, you can never fold draws even if you want to.

like limit!

robinlacey

i only said push because there's so little left to go in,if it was deeper there'd be more to think about
however,i'd still think about raising if there was say another 6 or 700 to go in,i know villain looks strong but i think he could easily have a set,straight or worse flush in my opinion,none of which he's folding

cardshark202

I would have folded preflop. As it is I agree with robin.

Hectorjelly

The guy isnt a fish, so we can assume he will act reasnably.
A guy with a straight will not chk raise the river. When he gets raised on the turn he will have to fear the flush, so he may bet/(fold,call) the river or check call it, but I think assuming this guy isnt a total donkey and has read the board correctly he never has a straight. Similarly with a set, except now he has to fear a straight as well. I mean I cannot remember a villain ever turning over anything but a flush given his line.

And I dont think he is likely to check raise a lowerflush as well, again even bad players will fear a higher flush. I think his range is very heavily weighted towards the nuts and reopening the betting if deeper would be bad. He may have Qcxc or some random bluff (which would be clever with the Ac), but the only reason I think you should call this is because its half pot limit, if it was a full pot bet I think folding would be better.

There are also two straight flushes possible as well as being beaten by Acxc. I dont think this changes it much.

cardshark202

Hectorjelly wrote:

The guy isnt a fish, so we can assume he will act reasnably.

I dunno, I thought this hand was played awfully, seeing as he's managed to get people thinking of not felting with a king high flush

Hectorjelly

cardshark202 wrote:

I dunno, I thought this hand was played awfully, seeing as he's managed to get people thinking of not felting with a king high flush

say there was a room of 100 random poker players. 15 of them would probably be considered fish and you could not expect them to act rationally. Then there would be around 83 okish players who would inhabit a broad spectrum from medium losers to medium winners. A lot of well respected players would be here. If a player ever check min raises a house or a flush he is somewhere in this segment. Only 1 or 2 players actually have the comprehensive understanding and knowledge neccessary to take lines that maximise value whilst minimising information being leaked.

cardshark202

Hectorjelly wrote:

say there was a room of 100 random poker players. 15 of them would probably be considered fish and you could not expect them to act rationally. Then there would be around 83 okish players who would inhabit a broad spectrum from medium losers to medium winners. A lot of well respected players would be here. If a player ever check min raises a house or a flush he is somewhere in this segment. Only 1 or 2 players actually have the comprehensive understanding and knowledge neccessary to take lines that maximise value whilst minimising information being leaked.

Well if I saw that room of 100 random poker players I would assume 95 of them are fish. Then I would see them play and decide I was better than all of them.

ArmaniJeanss

Fold Preflop, and all that jazz.

Rest of hand.....
Rake in Oz just might make villians hand transparent.

BrokenArrows

ArmaniJeanss wrote:

Fold Preflop, and all that jazz.

Rest of hand.....
Rake in Oz just might make villians hand transparent.

the rake in the half pot is 5% capped at $20

The limit rake is $1 per per hand per player which is horrible but we have no choice. Ive been playing with it for about 6 months so ive gotten over it and stopped complaining.

The only thing that makes the game beatable over here is the huge amount of fish that are to be found.