[Article] Luas to be extended to the Point

chamar

2 years to extend a line by 1500 mtrs - so assuming it opens early in the year they will have completed 2 mtrs per day!!

jesus_thats_gre

chamar wrote:

2 years to extend a line by 1500 mtrs - so assuming it opens early in the year they will have completed 2 mtrs per day!!

God you are a simple gimp aren't you.

"Oh I know whats funny, lets skew the facts as much as possible and use rediculous logic to highlight how crap the goverment are. "

markpb

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

"Oh I know whats funny, lets skew the facts as much as possible and use rediculous logic to highlight how crap the goverment are. "

You're right. He doesn't have to use ridiculous logic or skew the facts to do that

chamar

Maybe I am a simple gimp (:D ) but if it takes over 2 years for 1.5km of Luas line then there is a problem somewhere.........sorry!

(and I can still spell better than you!)

AlekSmart

Gentlemen please....!

There`s no need for bickering.
All of this has been standardized by conducting all the Lus line work to the O Connell St Standard.

The OCS Standard is now universally accepted for ALL major infrastructural projects in the Free State.
Essentially it presupposes an inordinately long and convoluted lead-in with many Consultations,Judicial Reviews and some in-camera Navel Gazing.

Only after this process is complete will the physical work actually commence.
The work will be carried out STRICTLY on a Monday-Friday basis between the hours of 08.30 and 17.00 with an early finish on Friday`s at 13.30.

These hours are for Summer Work only.
Winter will see a much longer time-span with work commencing at 07.00 and continuing to 22.00.
These hours are required to allow the excavations to be drained of standing rainwater and for the shoring up of flooded basements in the vicinity.
So one can see that 2 mtrs per day is in fact a very rapid pace indeed.

Now...does anybody have an e-mail addresss for Senor Melis from Madrid....in Spain...Mainland Europe....where the greater good is undeerstood !!

Victor

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1221/luas.html

Luas to be extended to the Point

21 December 2006 15:52

The Luas Red line is to be extended by 1.5km to a new terminus at the Point in Dublin.

The new line will be operational in 2009.

The Minister for Transport, Martin Cullen, today approved the application by the Railway Procurement Agency for the extension from the current terminus at Connolly Station.
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The proposed extension will have four stops: George's Dock, Mayor Square, Spencer Dock and the Point.

The Department of Transport said the scheduled completion date for the project is 2009.

The Department of Transport added that the extension is expected to add over 2m new Luas trips per annum and remove over 1m vehicle trips from the roads.

Last August, Mr Cullen gave the go-ahead for the start of work extending the Luas Green line from Sandyford to Cherrywood.

Victor

http://home.eircom.net/content/irelandcom/topstories/9567896?view=Eircomnet

Minister approves extension of Luas through north docklands
From:ireland.com
Friday, 22nd December, 2006

Plans by the Railway Procurement Agency (RPA) to extend the Tallaght Luas line through Dublin's north docklands from Connolly Station to the Point have been approved by Minister for Transport Martin Cullen

The 1.5km (one mile) extension, which will cost at least €90 million though no official cost estimate has ever been released, is designed to cater for the growing workforce and residential population of the area.

It was the subject of a public inquiry in June, presided over by James Connolly SC, who Mr Cullen thanked for his "professional and thorough" approach.

Mr Connolly's report has been on the Minister's desk since July.

The double-track line would run from the existing terminus of the Tallaght line at Connolly Station, with trams reversing out to serve three stops - George's Dock, Mayor Square and Spencer Dock - on its way to the Point.

There had been strong opposition to the Mayor Street route from elements in the International Financial Services Centre (IFSC) based on fears that fibre-optic telecoms cables essential to its business would be severed by construction work.

However, RPA chief executive Frank Allen said he had spent the summer of 2005 "going from bank to bank in the IFSC" to reassure them that protection would be given to telecoms infrastructure along the proposed route.

"We can't guarantee that no line will ever be cut, but we told all of the banks down there that the RPA will provide back-up at our own expense, so if we cut a line through the front door we'll provide it through the back door."

The main opposition came from a group called the IFSC Steering Committee, which sought to have the extension rerouted on to North Wall Quay. In the end, however, this group did not make a submission at the public inquiry.

The Minister's decision to approve the necessary railway order to allow the extension to proceed is open to judicial review for two months.

If it is not challenged in the High Court, the RPA hopes to start construction next summer.

The extended line is scheduled to be completed in 2009.

According to Mr Cullen, it is expected to add over two million new Luas trips per annum by 2016, removing over one million vehicle trips from the streets of Dublin.

The proposed extension of the Sandyford Luas line to Cherrywood is being held up by judicial review proceedings taken by the owners of a listed Georgian house which would have to be demolished to facilitate the scheme. This seven kilometres (four miles) extension was the subject of a public inquiry in March, on which the presiding inspector (James Connolly SC) reported in April.

Mr Cullen signed a railway order for it in August, but the legal challenge followed.

"We hope the case will be heard in the High Court before the end of January," Mr Allen said.

"If this action hadn't happened we would have been able to start work on the extension last month because the contracts are in place.

Victor

http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=8668&lang=ENG&loc=1887

Cullen gives go-ahead for construction of Luas extension from Connolly Station to The Point, Dublin
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21 December 2006

Transport Minister, Martin Cullen, T.D. today (Thursday 21 December 2006) has confirmed that he has approved the application by the Railway Procurement Agency (RPA) for a Railway Order in respect of the extension of the Luas Red line from its existing terminus at Connolly Station to The Point, Dublin.

The proposed 1.5km extension of the Luas to The Point (Line C1), will comprise a double track extension from the current terminus at Connolly Station. There will be four stops along the extended track route, which will run 'on street' - George's Dock, Mayor Square, Spencer Dock and The Point. The extension of the line is part of the Government's programme for transport - Transport 21.

The Minister expressed his gratitude to Mr James Connolly SC, for the professional and thorough manner in which he carried out the public inquiry process relating to this extension.

By 2016, employment in the area served by the Tallaght to Connolly Luas line is forecast to increase by almost 50% and the population is forecast to more than double, resulting in an increased demand for public transport. By then, this extension is expected to add over two million new Luas trips per annum and will remove over one million vehicle trips from the streets.

The scheduled completion date for this project is 2009.

Victor

http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp?id=8667&lang=ENG&loc=849

S.I. No 648 of 2006: Railway (Dublin Light Rail C1 - Connolly to the Point) Order 2006
21 December 2006

This is the Railway Order which was signed by the Minister for Transport, Martin Cullen TD, on 18 December 2006 the effect of which is to confer, subject to conditions, on the Railway Procurement Agency the necessary powers under the Transport (Railway Infrastructure) Act, 2001 to construct, maintain, improve and, subject to section 11(7) of that Act, operate a light railway known as Dublin Light Rail Line C1 Connolly to the Point. The plan of the railway works referred to in the Order is available for inspection or purchase at the Head Office of the Railway Procurement Agency, Parkgate Business Centre, Parkgate Street, Dublin 8.

http://www.transport.ie/upload/general/8667-0.pdf

Idbatterim

who cares about these micky mouse extensions! the only thing you can be guaranteed is that these collosal 1.5 kms extensions will take years to complete, and take away more and more road space, which would be far better utilised for buses and cars. Also 4 stops new stops for 1.5kms of track!The Luas is a toy, why didnt they put in a proper integrated sytem from the start, capable of carrying a reasonable number of passengers? Can you imagine the chaos that will be caused if they route the luas around college green? the disruption to the collosal amounts of bus, car, taxi drivers etc and all so an extra 5 million trips per annum can be made, how many hundreds of millions of trips are you screwing up. Why do they have to be linked up in the first place? red line passengers can get onto the oconnell street metro and head to stephens green or further south if they had any sense and continued the metro on to ranelagh. Dublin bus are completely right to object to the current luas city centre plans. Dublin and the population and employment growth figures are far too big for that toy train set. What is needed is a comprehensive underground linked up system.

spacetweek

So C1 is going ahead, B1 is delayed and BX is still under discussion.

Whatever happened to the fourth line - A1 to Citywest? The last I heard in August they said they were planning on extending it to Saggart. They sounded pretty leisurely about it. According to T21 it was supposed to open by 2008.

MarkoP11

B1 is held up by a judicial review taken by the owners of a listed building as they are legally allowed under the act

C1 may also be subject to a judical review if the banks are not happy that will add 6+ months

The biggest cause of delay is Minister Cullen, he has had the reports of Luas C1 and Kildare Route Project since before last June but only signed in December, thats called dragging it out

A1 is a private venture across green fields