$50 Tribeca STT Hand

dvdfan

Just wondering what i should be doing in this situation Preflop. This has always been a stumbling block for me with Pocket Pairs, should i be only limping/open raising and dumping when raised. Im thinking i maybe should only play this when raised if i had position as im going to be flopping overcards a large majority of the time. At this stage of the tourney pushing isnt in my thinking. Whats your taughts?


Holdem No Limit - $100 BB

CO ($1,440) [gra161 ]
Button ($1,380) [Finders ]
SB ($2,270) [Hero]
BB ($4,090) [Koursaros ]
UTG ($2,350) [fransdone ]
UTG+1 ($3,010) [Wawa 284 ]
MP+1 ($1,740) [moneyshot1 ]
MP+2 ($1,720) [mrcandyman ]

Hero is SB with 9d, 9h
Preflop: (8 players, $150)
fransdone calls 100 and raises 200, 5 folds, Hero calls 250, Koursaros folds

Flop: 2d, Js, As (2 players, $700)
Hero checks, fransdone checks

Turn: Jc (2 players, $700)
Hero checks, fransdone checks

River: 7d (2 players, $700)
Hero checks, fransdone checks

Results: Hero has 9d, 9h
Hero wins $700 with Two Pair: Jacks and 9s

dvdfan

Another hand from the same tourney:

Was i being to weak here, i was pushing all in until Finders pushed all in aswell as Waja had been raising hands such as QJ etc lately. Finders seemed pretty solid so i taught folding was a better option. Should i be getting stuck in here but im thinking i could be up against 3 overcards i.e AK & AQ or 2 overcards and a higher pocket pair???

Holdem No Limit - $300 BB

SB ($2,510) [Finders ]
BB ($2,870) [Hero]
UTG ($4,750) [Wawa 284 ]
CO ($6,230) [moneyshot1 ]
Button ($1,640) [mrcandyman ]

Hero is BB with 7d, 7c
Preflop: (5 players, $450)
Wawa 284 calls 300 and raises 1,000, 2 folds, Finders calls 1,150 and raises 1,210 and is All-In, Hero folds, Wawa 284 calls 1,210

Flop: 8s, Jd, Th ($5320)

Turn: Kd ($5320)

River: 3c ($5320)

Results: Finders has 9s, 9h
Hero has 7d, 7c
Wawa 284 has Jh, Jc
Wawa 284 wins $5320 with 3 of a Kind: Jacks

Scotty #

Hand 1: In this situation anything under JJ and its just a call from me.

Hand 2: Fold.

dvdfan

Scotty # wrote:

Hand 1: In this situation anything under JJ and its just a call from me.

Hand 2: Fold.

With Hand 1 scotty do you think its ok to play this raised pot OOP when your more than likely going to hit an overcard on the flop. It makes it very hard to win the hand and as played i would have dropped it to a decent bet on the flop which didnt come luckily enough. Cant see myself winning enough of these to make it worthwhile or how do you recommend i play this post flop

ArmaniJeanss

Hand 1. Heck, I'm not sure what the correct line is here. You have odds to call for a set if only if you can be sure of stacking the raiser. Otherwise as you
said you'll find it tricky post flop. It very opponent dependent. I definitely call if a little deeper, push if a little shallower, and veer between calling/folding with the current stacks.
You did get two bits of decent information for your notes as well as the 400 chips you won. (A. He raised utg with a hand that was either Kx,Qx or a pair less than 66 and he didnt cont bet when he missed).

Hand 2. Fold. When 2 people have shown that they have solid hands, then you want something much more premium to play with them.

Scotty #

dvdfan wrote:

do you think its ok to play this raised pot OOP when your more than likely going to hit an overcard on the flop

Yes. Your only risking less then a 10th of your stack but you are really looking for a set (7.5-1 for a set or better) I'd call up to a 4X raise here with any PP and re-raise with JJ+ (maybe QQ+ depending...) Massive value if you hit and only 200 lost if you don't. Easy call.

Post flop I'd CF and maybe bet the turn.

willietherock

DVDfan,
what no of buyins do you play with at $50 level?
Ive seen $2500 given as bankroll for $50 stts.

sikes

ignore me...again

gocall01

Hand 1: I would call here simply for the value if you hit the set.
You do have the BB to act after you but I'd still call.
Usually, if it is checked to the trun I would 1/2 to 3/4 pot bet.

As played I would have 1/2 pot bet the flop and chk/fold the turn and river.
Probably too passive but no point getting stacked IMO.

Hand 2: Easy fold IMO.

gocall01

willietherock wrote:

DVDfan,
what no of buyins do you play with at $50 level?
Ive seen $2500 given as bankroll for $50 stts.

Willie,
I have always gone with the 20 buy-ins rule for STTs.
Started at the $10 level, played a lot of $20/$25 STTs to get the $1000.
Now running fairly comfortably in the $50 game.
If I have a bad run and drop below the $1000 ($50 x 20 buy-ins) I'll drop down and build again.

Also, from time to time I drop down a level or two if I want to try a new tactic or variation on my play/strategy.

dvdfan

willietherock wrote:

DVDfan,
what no of buyins do you play with at $50 level?
Ive seen $2500 given as bankroll for $50 stts.

The 1st time ive tried this i used $1100 bankroll i.e 20 buyins but i hit a terrible run and reverted back to $20 when i hit around the $400 mark. This is when i decided to that i should have a $1100 bankroll plus another $400 if my $1100 goes bust so i can revert back to $20 and this time i have a full 20 buyins at the $50 level. But once again im having a bad start

7 starts 1 in the money although i had 3 bad beat exits

Got all in 1st hand with TPTK against TP 7kicker and he outdrew my on river
Got all in with AA post flop with JJ and he outdrew me on the straight
The i had AA i raised 3x for 600 chips with no callers, flop came 338 and he pushed all in, i figured he was just trying to push me off the hand with the bad flop and called to see his cards 83o. Like who's going to push all in on the flop with a full house except this geezer i guess.

Still im not panicking yet

willietherock

DVDFAN,
is their a notable difference between in standard between the $50 stts and the $20/$25 stts?

Im still not sure if its better to learn how to multitable at a lower level or progess up the levels with a single table.
Im trying multitabling at the moment at 20/25 level.

mewso

Hand 1 - I play it the same way except I probably bet the turn. You are at the 50-100 level now so you should have some info. on UTG. Sometimes depending on the opponent a crai on the flop works well but obviously this guy is unwilling to continue bet so he makes it even easier for you.
Hand 2- Fold for me.

dvdfan

willietherock wrote:

DVDFAN,
is their a notable difference between in standard between the $50 stts and the $20/$25 stts?

Im still not sure if its better to learn how to multitable at a lower level or progess up the levels with a single table.
Im trying multitabling at the moment at 20/25 level.

I havent played enough games to answer that properly but there's still people willing to get all in with TPBK and plenty of maniac's, min betters, people pushing all in on flush boards with middle pair etc etc. As ive said above ive suffered some bad variance so ill have a better idea after a few more days.