JJ Mid Position (tourney treble up??)

gocall01

Played in a local tourney last week, play it a couple of times a month so all the regulars are known to one another.

Blinds at 500/1000 (8 players at table).
Villain 1 (Stack ~12K) - Recognised as a reasonably loose but a very good flop player.
Villain 2 (Stack ~18K) - TAG (1 gear player).
Hero (Stack 8K) - Table Image -TAG (2 gear player); which would be about corrrect.

Villain 1 UTG - raises to 3.5K (range - 77+; mid Ace; suited K/Q connector).
Villain 2 UTG+1 - calls 3.5K (range - much tighter).

I look to see JJ.
What is my move? Is this considered an easy/auto push?

[Other stacks yet to act ranged from 5K to 30K.]

valor

yes

phantom_lord

ship it.

LuckyLloyd

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sikes

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Hopefully one of the two villians has 1010 - 77 and the other AK / AQ.

better yet, they both have over cards.

Rnger

better yet, they both have TT

push push push

sikes

good point!

gocall01

gocall01 wrote:

Played in a local tourney last week, play it a couple of times a month so all the regulars are known to one another.

Blinds at 500/1000 (8 players at table).
Villain 1 (Stack ~12K) - Recognised as a reasonably loose but a very good flop player.
Villain 2 (Stack ~18K) - TAG (1 gear player).
Hero (Stack 8K) - Table Image -TAG (2 gear player); which would be about corrrect.

Villain 1 UTG - raises to 3.5K (range - 77+; mid Ace; suited K/Q connector).
Villain 2 UTG+1 - calls 3.5K (range - much tighter).

I look to see JJ.
What is my move? Is this considered an easy/auto push?

[Other stacks yet to act ranged from 5K to 30K.]

Ok.
That is what I thought and I thought about it for a while before moving in.
My thinking and reason for taking so long was:
Villain 1 - if he has under pair I'l laughing, possibly on over cards.
TBH I was defo pushing in on him until villain 2 called.

This had me worried, he defo hand a hand and I reckoned it was anything from 10 10+.
However, from knowing him the call suggested AA KK really.
I pushed, villain 1 paused and pushed & villain 2 pushed - crap!

JJ agiainst KQ suited & KK.

Flop 10 high, turn Q & river blank; no mircale J, flush or straight.
Until next week.

Was there anyway my reasoning could/should have found a fold here?

jimbling

gocall01 wrote:

Ok.
That is what I thought and I thought about it for a while before moving in.
My thinking and reason for taking so long was:
Villain 1 - if he has under pair I'l laughing, possibly on over cards.
TBH I was defo pushing in on him until villain 2 called.

This had me worried, he defo hand a hand and I reckoned it was anything from 10 10+.
However, from knowing him the call suggested AA KK really.
I pushed, villain 1 paused and pushed & villain 2 pushed - crap!

JJ agiainst KQ suited & KK.

Flop 10 high, turn Q & river blank; no mircale J, flush or straight.
Until next week.

Was there anyway my reasoning could/should have found a fold here?

well your error was your judgement of villain 2.
Don't think any TAG player will play KK like this, especially against a player who is known to be a very good flop player.

Other than that you made the right move.

gocall01

jimbling wrote:

well your error was your judgement of villain 2.
Don't think any TAG player will play KK like this, especially against a player who is known to be a very good flop player.

Other than that you made the right move.

Me thinks you are right!

Goodluck2me

he is not TAG if he is calling here more liek Tight passive.