Advice Please?

Shadowless

Long time lurker here, looking to get a bit more involved.
This particular hand has been annoying me for some time.
Don't remember all the specifics but it was more or less the following...

Mid-stages of a live STT, 7-handed, table is pretty tight and villain in the hand though very competent (2nd chip-leader after me) is particularly so. I've been playing a little LAG but i doubled up early on and am getting lots of repect.

I'm UTG+2 and get Ac6c, raise 4xBB

Called by villan in the cut-off

Flop AQ6r

I lead for 3/4 pot

Villain raises 3x (1/3-1/2 of his stack)

Now what?

I shoved even though I had a bad feelin about it and sure enough he insta-calls and flips over AQ.

My problem here is I'm only gonna get called when i'm behind, as I feel villain will lay down TPTK in this spot.

Is there anyway to keep all my chips outta the middle in this situation or is he destined to double up? Assuming his pre-flop range is AJ+, 8's +, should I fold to the flop raise?

The Sheriff 101

stack's blinds?

The Sheriff 101

He min raises you putting in 1/3 of his stack which if he is competant as u say and you have a good image i dont think he is doing it without a hand that beats u other than AK
But i dont think unless very good structured tournie or super read you are ever getting off this hand
Just Unlucky

Shadowless

As i said I cant remember exactly. I think it was around the 4th blind level (100-200) I had around 50-60 BB (we had deep-stacks) and he had around 40 BB. Which would of made his flop raise closer to half his stack if my calculations are correct.

Edit- His raise was 3x not 2x (ppp confusin me as usual)

Rnger

Your problem here is your only gonna get called when your behind, as you feel villain will lay down TPTK in this spot.

mewso

1. A6 UTG+2 is an auto-fold for me.
2. After that if he is as tight as you say then he is telling you he beats TP by re-raising and if he can beat TP then he beats your 2 pair.

I don't think it's a huge mistake to push in this situation considering the general standard of these STTs (assuming this is a low buy-in) where many players will think TPTK is the nuts or play like it is. Either way I think the mistake is pre-flop in the long term.

sikes

with four left to act after you, A6s is a good hand to raise with. Generally pushing here is fine against an unknown, however if your gut/read is telling you different you have to go with it.

sikes

ignore

RoundTower

if your read that he is tight is very strong you can fold, normally you should get it all in and not feel bad about losing to a better hand.

Jaden

I wouldn't normally limp EP with A,6 - much less raise and call a re-raise. If you can't let it go preflop, then you're an A,rag merchant, and will lose in the long run.

sikes

Jaden wrote:

I wouldn't normally limp EP with A,6 - much less raise and call a re-raise. If you can't let it go preflop, then you're an A,rag merchant, and will lose in the long run.

We are seven handed and 2 off the button. Our raises have been getting respect. Raising here is fine.

From what you are saying you think limping >> raising. Limping is horrible.

He isnt an A rag merchant raising with Ax, calling maybe, but we arent calling. If you are losing money in this spot, then your post flop play needs a lot of work.

kebabfest

No problem with the pre-flop raise, and your continutation bet aint too bad.
First all on the flop the only thing you can beat is somebody without an A. Therefore keep the pot small and you should be well suspicious about his pre-flop call.
When he goes over the top to your bet on the he is pot commited and you can really beat anything apart from an outrageous bluff.
My advice would be to stay away from A rag until you get a bit more experience and then you'll know to stay away from it !!

Scouser in Dub

kebabfest wrote:

First all on the flop the only thing you can beat is somebody without an A.

He beats every A other than AA and AQ