Is my wheel buckled??

Mellor

6 seater SST on PPP. 3 players left. I have been quiet enough, taking down a good few pots with bets. And haven't shown a had yet.
Villian is playing cautious, laying down to bets when its just us two blinds in the pot. He was to my left in the last STT we were at. I was short and got it in with top pair on the flop, he called with an over pair and I two-paired on the turn. He was crippled and went out next few hands. He hasn't played back at me in this STT




Seat 4 : Villian has $2,780
Seat 5 : Mellor has $2,150
Seat 6 : queenbee199 has $7,070

'Dead button' is at seat 0
Villian posted small blind.
Mellor posted big blind.

Game [13] started with 3 players.
Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 5 : Mellor has Ac 4c

queenbee199 folded.
Villian called 30
Mellor checked.

Dealing flop.
Board cards [Kc 5h Qh]
Villian checked.
Mellor checked.

Dealing turn.
Board cards [Kc 5h Qh 3s]
Villian checked.
Mellor bet 60
Villian called 60

Dealing river.
Board cards [Kc 5h Qh 3s 2h]
Villian bet 240
Mellor called 240 and raised 480
Villian called 480 and raised 1,940 and is All-in


Thoughts and comments please??

ArmaniJeanss

Bet ~2/3 pot at the flop. Almost always do this in a blind v blind battle when the SB checks to you on the flop.

I'd call for my last 1400 on the river, enough of the time you are up against top2pair or a set.

Mellor

I had been beting any flop in this situation, but decided to vary play this time.
He couldn't believe me all the time.

fixer

If you thought he might have the flush and you weren't willing to call the re-raise on the river, why raise at all?

LuckyLloyd

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Mellor

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Blind on Blind - raise pre - flop with a suited Ace. Bet the flop when he checks to you.

As I said i had been doing this everytime, no matter what hand I had. For the last two STTs. both times we were the blinds together. In the last game, towards the end, he played back my flop raises with ace high. He was bound to do this soon so i decided to vary play for a hand, betting any turn to take it down.

However, as Fixer has said, you need to be clear in your mind what your plan is before you act to his raise on the river. If you want him over the line and are sure you are ahead then raise for value (don't fcuking min - raise) and call the all - in automatically. Otherwise you should just call the bet. As it is, you have created a tough situation for yourself.

When he bet 240 (size of pot), I was happy. I rivered a wheel. He could of been having a stab at the pot. And I raise an amount i thought he would call. Read the origiginal post, I never min-raised once. He bet 240, i made it 720. He came over the top to have me all-in for 2,030



I didn't think he had the the flush until the re-raise. My straight isn't that obvious. Is he doing this with top two, or a set?
I fold here a lot without any info on villian.

LuckyLloyd

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ntlbell

Mellor wrote:

I didn't think he had the the flush until the re-raise. My straight isn't that obvious. Is he doing this with top two, or a set?
I fold here a lot without any info on villian.

It would be a pretty strange way to play top two or a flopped set.

Checking behind on the flop and calling a small bet on the turn with a possible flush draw then only showing some interest when the flush gets there.

Odd.

Mellor

luckyLloyd wrote:

Aplogies - I misread. Thought you raised to 480.

its grand, i hate the way PPP does that in hand histories. wish it would use a compound raise value.

Mellor

ntlbell wrote:

It would be a pretty strange way to play top two or a flopped set.

Checking behind on the flop and calling a small bet on the turn with a possible flush draw then only showing some interest when the flush gets there.

Odd.

I'd seen this guy do it with a flopped ace, did nothing until a push on the river.
and he doesn't have to have floped it either?

LuckyLloyd

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ntlbell

Mellor wrote:

I'd seen this guy do it with a flopped ace, did nothing until a push on the river.
and he doesn't have to have floped it either?

Of course not, I just said it would be a strange way to play a flopped set, or top two , he may well have turned/rivered a set.

Stop holding information back, if you have this kind of information include it in the original post otheriwse you're wasting peoples time.

bubbleking

id just call the river bet.

i dont like re-opening the betting on a flushing board.

as played im leaning towards a fold.

kebabfest

Well he hasnt got trips as he would have been defending against the flush.
he hasnt got 2 pair as the overbet with 2 pair goes against everything you say about him.
the only hand he could have in this situation considering the way you described him play is a flush.
in my humble opinion you made 2 errors
not betting the flop and betting the river.

Mellor

ntlbell wrote:

Of course not, I just said it would be a strange way to play a flopped set, or top two , he may well have turned/rivered a set.

Stop holding information back, if you have this kind of information include it in the original post otheriwse you're wasting peoples time.

sorry, I thought I included more info about the first STT. When my top pair sucked out on him he started playing v. agro.
Thought he might have carried this crazy play over to this game.

handsfree

i'd call here. no particular reasoning behind it except that if he had a flush draw he bets the flop.

Silver-Tiger

What buy in was the stt,
If it was a lo-stake i feel this could be a stupid re-raise with 5s up or Qs up.
If it was a high stake you could be done by flush and maybe let it go.

The villain sounds like a very ABC player
and as played i call but like said before i dont minraise on the river,
I take it he has the flush because of you posting the hand,
Bit of an unlucky card on the river then , ul if ya lost the hand..

Mellor

low stake, student bankroll.
I called, flush.