2007 International Rules cancelled

Milktrolley

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It's a shame I think. Hopefully it can continue in 2008. The Irish Times reports that the AFL may turn to South Africa to keep the youth series going in the meantime.

What say you?

whassupp2

I'm disappointed its gone too.
However it will free up players and give them more time off during te year.
In my opinion the big losers here are Coca Cola

duckmusic

If u ask me there is no reason for it to be cancelled, at least not this year. If had asked me after last years game I would of said cancel it but nothing happened in this years games that should of jeopardised the game. If u look at any of the "fights" that the showed on the news there is little more than a bit of pushing, shouldering and wrestling going on. I didn't see one punch being thrown. How can the GAA justify this ??? My guess is that the have found a new income for the GAA by letting out Croke Park to the soccer and rugby heads so dont need the money anymore. Its a shame and I hope to see it back in 2008 but I have a feeling that the AFL are getting feed up with Ireland's whinging and will just go else where.

I think the media are responsible for this and have just shown how powerful they are. Its actually scary

lostexpectation

great news, maybe they should invite the australian players over for ultimate fighting league tourno in the rds?

Kojak

I'm glad to see it cancelled - it is not a good advertisement for GAA. Granted if Ireland won, despite all the Aussie "tactics", I would be surprised if there would have been as much complaining but players safety has to be taken into account also.

I think that, as has been mentioned earlier, the GAA now have a new money spinner (in the leasing of Croker) and we may not see any movement to re-instate the International Rules until Soccer and Rugby go back to Landsdowne Road.

damnyanks

This years game in Dublin was the final straw I guess. It hopefully sends a message to austrailia to stop mucking about and play the game or dont bother.

Probably wont make a difference though

Aedh Baclamh

It'll probably send the message that we're cry babies?

Just a wild guess though.

Jabbathegut

Aedh Baclamh wrote:

It'll probably send the message that we're cry babies?

Just a wild guess though.

Spot on...;)

They want to ban tackling now, lets just play GAA

Looks like the ultra conservatives finally got their way and against the players wishes, say bye bye to progress again.

patmac

Don't know if it's about conservatives winning out, I used to look forward to it but last years 2nd test was disgraceful, then this years 1st test was a yawn except for the last 5 minutes and then the second test was an abomination with a scared/unprotected(depending upon which hemsphere your from) Irish team unable to compete for fear of getting a belt every time they got the ball this is the main reason why the series can't go ahead, if a player thinks he's going to get a smack everytime he gets the ball he will move it hurriedly and therefore waste possesion this lead to a one sided game and I think psychologically the Irish team can't compete as they have no trust in the refereeing system, and also the fact that it had all the worse aspects of a competitive game, foul play, bad play, extremely one sided, uncompetitive, poor officiating.
RIP sorry nice idea didn't work, move on forget about it.
Pat (GAA liberal)

chubba1984

I can't understand why this series is put on hold for the year. In my opinion, the Irish players started the fightin in Croke Park and were just beaten at it by the Australians, the fightin didn't stop the Aussies playin football either and they proceeded to annihilate Ireland. It reminds me a lot of the English presses reaction to Ronaldo during the World Cup, trying to find a scapegoat for their own team's ineffectiveness. I think the International Rules is a fine game when played in the correct spirit by both teams. Running away because the Aussies beat the Irish up in fights they started themselves is absolutely pitiful. I'm personally very disappointed by this decision and have decided to spedn my days watchin cricket from now on. :eek:

Waylander

I am ashamed of the GAA for arriving at this decision. We got played off the pitch by a better team, and then started whining about being bullied. Now we are going home and taking our ball with us! Last year there were bad tackles by the aussies, this year both teams were involved and we were every bit as petty as them, they were just bigger and stronger. I thought choosing Boylan as the manager would lead to us being a tougher proposition but his squad selection was poor, and as a result we got hammered.

kevmy

I think it's not only a bad decision but a totally hypocritical one. Nicky Brennan was up in arms on the news the last night saying how he'd never seen worse and how the Aussies were disgraceful.
Obviously he hasn't been to that many club games recently. Things GAA players have done in the last two months: attacked a ref (twice), punching water carriers, all out brawls involvings subs and supporters, matchs been called of due to violence and an intercounty ref getting sent off for abusing another ref.

Then the GAA Central Council go on about how there is no proper discipline in the IR. This makes me laugh. Joe Canning got stamped on and beat up and down the field in the Galway final but it was his club that got the main bans and his stamper got off scot free. Frankie Dolan gets away with two months (when theres no games on) for punching an official. Not to mention the Mattie Forde and Paddy Campbell sagas in the Championship.

IMO the GAA should sort out there own players first and worry about the Aussies when their playing the Aussies.

cournioni

It is a pointless sport anyway. Lets just get on with our own game.

squire1

Waylander wrote:

I am ashamed of the GAA for arriving at this decision. We got played off the pitch by a better team, and then started whining about being bullied. Now we are going home and taking our ball with us! Last year there were bad tackles by the aussies, this year both teams were involved and we were every bit as petty as them, they were just bigger and stronger. I thought choosing Boylan as the manager would lead to us being a tougher proposition but his squad selection was poor, and as a result we got hammered.

That's it in a nutshell. If we ask the Aussies to compromise on their tackle or the way they approach the game from a physical (within the rules) point of view then it will no longer be "compromise rules" it will be "just the Aussies compromise and we play GAA rules". What is the point of that?

squire1

PORNAPSTER wrote:

It is a pointless sport anyway. Lets just get on with our own game.

It's hardly pointless considering the amount of support it gets from the public from both sides, even the players enjoy representing their country. It generates huge amounts of sponsorship and money.

When we beat the Aussies two years in a row, I don't remember them giving up? It smacks of bad sportsmanship from our side which is ironic considering the accusations our GAA reps have made against the Aussies approach to the game.

An aside point, does this leave the door open for a GAA World Championship? Is this on the agenda? Personally I can't see it working but the idea is interesting.

Kojak

squire1 wrote:

An aside point, does this leave the door open for a GAA World Championship? Is this on the agenda? Personally I can't see it working but the idea is interesting.

A good idea, alright but its really un-workable. Could you honestly see any team from outside these shores beating Kerry in this championship? Come to think of it, many of the teams here in Ireland have had it difficult to beat Kerry

I'm not trying to be derogatory to these foreigh teams, the standard is so low (in comparison with the All-Ireland champions) that it would be a total mis-match. Maybe a GAA World championship between All-Ireland club winners would be more entertaining - either that or the winners of the Tommy Murphy cup go forward as ireland's representatives.

redspider

I fully back the GAA in cancelling next year's series and their proposal of a review. What went on last year was a black mark on both codes, and this year wasnt at bad but still not good enough for which should be a showpiece of both codes.

For those that didnt see the fists, you weren't paying much attention!


> no trust in the refereeing system

Thats the key aspect for me also. The way it is/was it just didnt have any rules that were being abided and it resembled closer to street fighting than a sport.

It remains to be seen what the Aussies (AFL) think and respond. Its been fairly quiet in terms of the response so far, bush fires or not.

Redspider

Waylander

redspider wrote:

I fully back the GAA in cancelling next year's series and their proposal of a review. What went on last year was a black mark on both codes, and this year wasnt at bad but still not good enough for which should be a showpiece of both codes.

For those that didnt see the fists, you weren't paying much attention!


> no trust in the refereeing system

Thats the key aspect for me also. The way it is/was it just didnt have any rules that were being abided and it resembled closer to street fighting than a sport.

It remains to be seen what the Aussies (AFL) think and respond. Its been fairly quiet in terms of the response so far, bush fires or not.

Redspider

I saw the fists, but I saw two teams throwing them, not just the Aussies, and I think it is pathetic that we are pulling out of it. I think we are puuling out of it because we have been played off the pitch for two years, as much as because the mean Australians are bullying us poor little Irish guys!

The rules were established before the series, especially the tackle. Mostly these rules were respected, but there are fouls in every game of every code. You have to bear in mind that this is not Gaelic Football, we got the round ball, the Australians got a more physical sport then we are used to. You cannot apply the standards you apply to GAA to this sport as the rules differ largely in allot of areas, so you have to allow for that.

walrusgumble

bring it back in 3 years time and then maybe run it bi annually.

ireland were whingers, look at the game, the team could hardly string a pass together, it is us who should have the advantage with the round ball, i think we had more behinds than overs at one piont, the aussie's shooting and fielding was fantastic.

ok their has to be stricter rulings with the off ball situations. but who remembers the meath of early 1990's some of them players could hardly have been seen as tidying clean footballers, colm coyne was great for the auld elbow to the ribs.

i think its sour grapes really, pitty