Fox News

Rabies

On one of my Kiwi channels late at night they show Fox News for hours. The show is Fox and Friends, it seems to be their morning slot.

I know it is an American show, but I have never seen or heard anything to be so pro Bush ever.

It is like nothing he does is wrong. A little spin is always put on the American interest stories from war to politics. Gets a bit sickening at times.

Are all the American news channels like this? Is there any that go against the grain?

The worst thing is, I still watch it most nights because everything else on NZ TV after hours is either trying to sell me some gym equipment, get me to call some sex line or watch a crap music channel.

Hagar

Wasn't it Fox that annouced that George had one the Election before the counting of the disputed votes in Florida (May be wrong state) was actually completed and the other News stations just rowed in behind them not wanting to be last with the news? Fox were the kingmakers for sure.

lostexpectation

Rabies wrote:

On one of my Kiwi channels late at night they show Fox News for hours. The show is Fox and Friends, it seems to be their morning slot.

I know it is an American show, but I have never seen or heard anything to be so pro Bush ever.

It is like nothing he does is wrong. A little spin is always put on the American interest stories from war to politics. Gets a bit sickening at times.

Are all the American news channels like this? Is there any that go against the grain?

The worst thing is, I still watch it most nights because everything else on NZ TV after hours is either trying to sell me some gym equipment, get me to call some sex line or watch a crap music channel.

is that the one where they have an audience of people and they 'randomly' ask them for their opinion on topics?

Milktrolley

Rabies wrote:

Are all American news channels like this? Is there any that go against the grain?

MSNBC aren't, thankfully. I was watching them the day Donald Rumsfeld resigned. They kept referring to the fact that Robert Gates used to work for Bush 41, suggesting that Bush 43 was incapable of making the decision himself and that his father made it for him.

Countdown with Keith Olbermann, which airs opposite The O'Reilly Factor, repeatedly criticises Fox News. Recent examples include:
December 8th: Scroll to 0:30
December 1st: Scroll to 0:27
November 30th: Scroll to 0:32
November 28th: Scroll to 0:00 and 0:52
November 27th: Scroll to 0:30
November 21st: Scroll to 0:33
November 20th: Scroll to 0:00
November 17th: Scroll to 0:00
November 15th: Fox News gone too far?
November 10th: Scroll to 0:42
November 9th: Scroll to 0:38
November 8th: Scroll to 0:43

Recent Criticisms of George Bush:
December 8th: Worst President Ever?
December 7th: Iraq: Is Bush up to the challenge?
December 5th: Worst Person in the World segment
December 5th: Bush 41 to the rescue?
November 20th: Bush's wheels coming off... literally
November 20th: Lessons from Iraq
November 17th: Bush out of touch with the public


But my favourite one comes from November 6th - the night before the mid-term elections. Keith Olbermann weighs in with a special comment.

Comprehensive Unofficial Website: http://www.olbermann.org/ko/ - click on Video & Audio
Official Site: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Milktrolley

lostexpectation wrote:

is that the one where they have an audience of people and they 'randomly' ask them for their opinion on topics?

That's DaySide. Fox & Friends is on between 11am and 2pm weekdays and 12pm to 3pm at weekends (Irish Time) the last time I checked. At different points during the show, they go outside the Fox News building and have lifestyle segments (cooking demonstrations etc.) while a gathering of people look on. One morning, after a blizzard descended on the city, they helped get a taxi restarted live on air.

Tom Dunne

Rabies wrote:

Are all the American news channels like this? Is there any that go against the grain?

I found CNN to be the most balanced when I lived there.

lostexpectation

tom dunne wrote:

I found CNN to be the most balanced when I lived there.

isn't there a glenn beck on their who a total winger, advocating nuking tehren and enprisoning muslims in the US

The_Minister

All US media is horribly biased, from what I can see. I've digital, so I see most US channels. Fox news is horribly biased towards conservatives, but as far as I can tell, the other channels have a liberal bias. I think that they balence each other out.

flogen

The_Minister wrote:

All US media is horribly biased, from what I can see. I've digital, so I see most US channels. Fox news is horribly biased towards conservatives, but as far as I can tell, the other channels have a liberal bias. I think that they balence each other out.

The Fox slogan, fair and balanced, was questioned in this regard; are they claiming that the station is a self-contained, unbias entity or that its right wing agenda is a balance to the left-wing bias of other outlets?

That logic is only true if you assume that people are watching all the media outlets in equal amounts, but they're simply not. People pick a favourite channel and it's usually one that confirms to their own opinion and makes them feel comfortable. A right-wing neo-con doesn't want to have to argue the positives of their ideology, they'd much rather sit in a room full of like minded people agreeing over how right they are... the same applies to the hyper-liberal left, extreme capitalists, extreme socialists, communists, marxists etc. etc.

Rabies

flogen wrote:

The Fox slogan, fair and balanced, was questioned in this regard; are they claiming that the station is a self-contained, unbias entity or that its right wing agenda is a balance to the left-wing bias of other outlets?

The fair and balanced slogan was questioned again last night. Apparently one of the presenters was commenting on Mel Gibsons new movie and told the audience to bycott the movie due to the graphic scences within the movie.

He needed to appear on air to apologise about what he said because of all the email complaints he got. It turns out the presenter never seen the movie and said he had no plans to watch it until it came out on DVD. Has was only going by what friends and other critics said. I think this guy was their entertainment presenter.

Was funny to watch him squirm

Go Fox News, fair and balanced as always.

irish_bob

fox new is and always was a propoganda machine for the republican party
it was started by rupert murdoch in 1996 to in his words counter the liberal bias in news land
to say the other news networks in the usa like cnn , msnbc etc are liberal in comparrison to fox so that makes fox ok is like saying alaska is warm in comparrison to siberia
you will never ever hear any form of criticism of the republican party or american foreign policy on fox news, it simply does not happen
in fact those who do criticise the usa , be it the democratic party who are the enemy on fox news or any one else , be it in america or abroad
fox will launch a witch hunt against them and charechter assinate them all day long ,
i have to admit i watch fox news all the time , i must be a masochist or maybe i find the absurd , entertaining
fox news is not only a threat to journalism as we know it but to democrocy
and yet i watch it and get a laugh out of it, its a sick joke

superdudeman007

If they really were "Fair and Balanced" - one of their old slogans - would they really have to boast that they were fair and balanced???

At the start of "Fahrenheit 9/11", there's a thing about the election in 2000. It says that Al Gore won and all the local TV stations started reporting it. But then Fox News (directed that night by George W's cousin) reported that GWB had won, and all the local channels were afraid to argue with Fox and changed their story.

Wikipedia wrote:

research has shown that there is a correlation between the presence of the Fox News Channel in cable markets and increases in Republican votes in those markets.[6] Fox News has consistently denied any bias in their news reporting

The_Minister

Don't trust Wikipedia when it comes to US politics.

DMC

I agree with The_Minister, pages there on US politics are often edited by those with a bias for either side.

The_Minister

DMC wrote:

I agree with The_Minister, pages there on US politics are often edited by those with a bias for either side.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12535412/

There was a different story, which I can't find, saying that they had to block several politician's offices.

Rabies

The_Minister wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12535412/

There was a different story, which I can't find, saying that they had to block several politician's offices.

They separated the "english speaking" users on the graph :rolleyes:
Are the terrorists using wikipedia now :rolleyes:

superdudeman007

Whether this is biased or not is irrelevant - it makes me wonder how Fox News is listed under "News" on Sky!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc5FIMpHbgU

The funniest parts start at 1.55 and 4.30. Just can't help thinking what would happen if an RTE anchor did that!!!