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Hand Analysis please

  • 09-12-2006 1:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭


    Blinds 3/6

    6 seated table on VC poker, very first hand since seated.

    Dealt AK (off) on the big blind

    2 limpers (one in early position and the other on the button)

    I raise to 25 total, both call, pot now 75

    Flop 10/J/Q (two diamonds)

    Im first to act and make a standard continuatuon bet of 40 (as its the first hand I've played I think this is a standard enough play and could mean anything but is essentially sweetning the pot

    Both call

    Turn (9 clubs)


    I decide to check raise here as if either has a king I might get payed off. So second to act bets 100, last man calls and I go all-in for around 150 more, both call.

    River J (diamonds)

    First to act goes all-in and other man calls, first man wins the pot with ace-high (A9) flush.....


    Could i have played the hand differently?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    I think you played the hand grand tbh, you got all the money in the middle when you were ahead.....

    Just unlucky that yer man was willing to put it all in with an open ender and a flush draw and that he hit his flush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭boba_fett3099


    Bet more on the flop maybe 55-60 and if both call i lead out with probably a pot-sized bet on the turn as you'll get payed off by a king anyway no need to crai imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    i think flop bet was fine because of what you were representing. enough in the pot on the turn to shove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    You played it well enough I think as it turned out. I hate check raising in general though. Did the guy with the flush draw bet out for you? If so it was poor lay by him. If it had been checked around on the turn your check-raise play would have been horrible when the third diamond hit.

    It was just one of those big hands against a big draw hands that neither was getting away from either way though i suppose. What did the other guy have that called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Bet bigger on the flop. Don't post bad beats.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Of course you could have played the hand differently. You could have potted the flop and shoved the turn.

    It wouldnt have changed the outcome, but it would be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rag2gar


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Bet bigger on the flop. Don't post bad beats.


    Its not a bad beat, he had a drawing hand and he hit could I have played it better is the question?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    rag2gar wrote:
    Blinds 3/6
    this is where i get confused... :p

    its just unlucky. you want him to call off his stack there and you will win his chips the majority of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rag2gar


    ditpoker wrote:
    this is where i get confused... :p

    its just unlucky. you want him to call off his stack there and you will win his chips the majority of the time.

    Yeah I'm happy enough with how I played it but just think the check on the turn was a bit questionable to be honest, was looking to see if people would pick up on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    rag2gar wrote:
    Its not a bad beat, he had a drawing hand and he hit could I have played it better is the question?

    Yeah but the point is why would you wanted to have played the hand any differently ? You got your whole stack in the middle when your a huge favourite. This is what we try to do in poker. If the diamond doesn't come and you win the hand do you think you would have posted it asking for advice on how you played it ?

    I would have taken the same line as Fuzz potted the flop and banged it all in on the turn.

    Opr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Bet bigger on the flop. Don't post bad beats.

    Bit harsh i think. most of the Hand advice is from people who lost a hand and want to know how could they
    have played it better. It could be argued that every other hand should be posted in the same thread because if you lost it would be a bad beat if you won you could be boasting:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    I dont like the CRAI line at all on the turn with only 250 behind, and 200 already in the pot. You're allowing the villain to play well against you, even if all he had was a bare flush draw, and not the big draw he did have. Once you CRAI, he's priced in to call with any AXd. Shove the turn; you're getting paid off by a king anyway, as well as giving your opponents the opportunity to play bad against you.

    Edit: Also by checking, you're giving infinite odds for a flush draw to beat you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭RacingSilver


    Originally Posted by lenny_leonard
    I dont like the CRAI line at all on the turn with only 250 behind, and 200 already in the pot. You're allowing the villain to play well against you, even if all he had was a bare flush draw, and not the big draw he did have. Once you CRAI, he's priced in to call with any AXd. Shove the turn; you're getting paid off by a king anyway, as well as giving your opponents the opportunity to play bad against you.
    Also by checking, you're giving infinite odds for a flush draw to beat you.
    Spot on Lenny - couldn't have put it better. I'd just add that by checking you are also allowing someone with AJ or AQ a free shot at a King on the river. Then you would be splitting the pot and that would be a real sickener. Even if you had more money behind I don't think I'd check the turn. Too much chance of it being checked around.


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