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5/10 Stars HE Hand

  • 08-12-2006 5:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    6 Handed

    Only at the table. No real reads.

    Effective stacks 1100.

    I raise to 40 UTG with KcQd

    2 callers

    Flop (135)

    Qc 7c 8c

    I lead for 100.

    Next guy raises to 300.

    3rd guy pushes.

    Call or fold?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Hmmm nice hand.

    I'd have thought the re-raiser has either the Ac or a made flush, and the other probably has the same range, so I'd have thought you were drawing dead.

    Were neither of these guys in the blinds??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    fold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I think a fold is best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    this is a pretty easy fold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Yeah easy fold. Also fold preflop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Would it be an easy fold with the ace of clubs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Yeah easy fold. Also fold preflop.

    No. Sometimes I fold KQ UTG sometimes I don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    ianmc38 wrote:
    No. Sometimes I fold KQ UTG sometimes I don't.

    KQs I raise, KQo I muck. EDIT: This isn't set in stone obv but it depends on how the table is playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Would it be an easy fold with the ace of clubs?

    I would take a guess that your up against a made flush/set. so yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭HalfBaked


    Knowing your degeneracy I can be fairly certain you'd have shipped it here.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    HalfBaked wrote:
    Knowing your degeneracy I can be fairly certain you'd have shipped it here.....

    :D You know me too well. The inner donk couldnt resist shipping it.

    I was up against JTc and 77 and whispered "you complete me" to the non board pairing 4th club on the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    fold for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    you run good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    valor wrote:
    you run good
    you talk gooder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    ianmc38 wrote:
    :D You know me too well. The inner donk couldnt resist shipping it.

    I was up against JTc and 77 and whispered "you complete me" to the non board pairing 4th club on the river.

    Is that 5 outs? Nice hit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    hehe what more can be said, Kqo for me is a stealing hand with a bit of value if you are called and that's all in No limit, but I agree sometimes in a certain type pf game shorthand you gonna dance with this, default utg though for me these days is a fold for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Preflop is fine, as long as you are aware that what you are doing is marginal and going to tread carefully after the flop. The flop call is pretty bad though, its very easy for you to be drawing dead here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    fold, I would ship it in with the Ac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    ianmc38 wrote:
    :D You know me too well. The inner donk couldnt resist shipping it.

    I was up against JTc and 77 and whispered "you complete me" to the non board pairing 4th club on the river.

    I get a horn when I make a call like that and get lucky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    ianmc38 wrote:
    I was up against JTc and 77 and whispered "you complete me" to the non board pairing 4th club on the river.
    I hope you took it out and showed it a good time too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    RoundTower wrote:
    fold, I would ship it in with the Ac.

    holding the Ac makes it even MORE likely that you are against at least one better made hand, if not 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    fuzzbox wrote:
    holding the Ac makes it even MORE likely that you are against at least one better made hand, if not 2.
    Can't be more likely than 100%!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    yeah but it makes it much less likely you are drawing dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    RoundTower wrote:
    yeah but it makes it much less likely you are drawing dead.

    touche


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    this is still a fold with AcQd imo


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