[Article] Vintners want payout for random breath tests

r3nu4l

Irish Independent

So, it appears that following the introduction of random breath testing many rural vintners have seen a drop in business. The IVF therefore have called for a compensation payout to cover loss of business for their members!

What this story implies is that random breath testing is working, those who would normally go to the pub and drive home over-the-limit are no longer doing so.

Thepublicans are saying that because customers can no longer drink & drive this is disrupting business which to me implies that the IVF supports drink driving...at least in rural areas :rolleyes:

Is there no end to the greed and utter stupidity within the IVF? Should they not have instead asked the Governement to contribute to a local taxi/minibus scheme for transport to and from rural pubs? Personally I think Publicans should pay for this type of service or the customers themselves not the Government but that proposal would have been less ridiculous than the one that was made :rolleyes:

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Certainly doesnt show the Vinters association in a positive light anyway, bit of a ridiculous request.

flogen

r3nu4l wrote:

Is there no end to the greed and utter stupidity within the IVF? Should they not have instead asked the Governement to contribute to a local taxi/minibus scheme for transport to and from rural pubs? Personally I think Publicans should pay for this type of service or the customers themselves not the Government but that proposal would have been less ridiculous than the one that was made :rolleyes:

Apparently, that's what they meant.
Not too sure if I buy it though, and I certainly don't see the point in paying publicans so they can ferry customers back and forth.
Aint they ever heard of a car pool/designated driver in their quest to save "Rural Ireland"?

r3nu4l

Yes, I don't think I buy it either. You would think there would be designated drivers in the community alright. I've often dropped friends back home from the pub after a night out. Sometimes those friends lived as much as ten miles away from each other but that's what friends do, right?

I don't think there should be any payout for publicans providing a pickup/drop off service. Let the customers agree to pay the price of one pint each for their lift back and forth, not the Governement. If they can't afford the price of a pint for their transport then they shouldn't be going to the pub anyway and if they can't afford the pub then the village doesn't need a pub.

Cabaal

Hang on their, they want to be compensated because people are illegaly driving home while drunk and its affecting their business.

You got to be ****en kitten me!
If they had any sense they'd try to start a transport scheme so locals could put a few euro to it in order to get home after a night out.

Rent seeking leeches

Hobbes

Cabaal wrote:

Hang on their, they want to be compensated because people are illegaly driving home while drunk and its affecting their business.

Were, not are. But point taken.

I'd turn around and say "Sure lets compensate you, but first lets run up the tab to the state on lives lost/ruined to drunk driving, insurance costs increased by such actions. Heck lets throw in medical costs as well."

Then let them get back when they pay that.


They are loosing money because they are fricken leeches when it comes to prices. For my drinks alone in a pub I can get enough drink for 2-3 people and food from the local supermarket and have a party at home.

Plissken1

I have saved a small fortune since I stopped being a regular in the pubs in my town. So what if pubs are suffering, If you had a corner shop and business suddenly dipped, do you think anyone would give a **** ? eh NO. These publicans thought they had the goose that laid the golden egg, when the bought into the pub business, in some cases that's is still true. But, there has always been too many pubs in this country ! so what if they are closing down, there is certainly no fear of them disappearing that's for sure, and as for these publicans or business people, what ever you want to call some of them, what they need to do is stop whinging and diversify, move into another field of business and expand that. God knows that's what us employees have to do anytime the business we worked for suddenly hits bad times or closes. Why do these people think they should be treated differently FFS ?!!

anyhoo, ... rant over for today

constitutionus

i have some degree of sympathy. not for the vintners but i live in dublin without a car and if it wasnt for the bus i couldnt even shop. so while i dont see the justification of handing taxpayers cash to the pubs its certainly resonable in one of the richest countries on the world that the gov should provide decent public transport for everyone in the country. even if its just a truncated version of the nightlink which, lets be honest, is basically for ferrying drunk dubliners home from pubs so were already doing it now. something should be charged to the customer along the lines of whats charged by the nightlink (4euro) but the very fact this will be loss making is why the gov should do it. god knows the private sector wont get involved in a service to get one guy home to ballymearse so the responsibility fall to the government, who lets remember, get paid to provide services to the public and theyve definetly got their monies worth out of the farming section in their day.
if theyre serious about keeping people in farming its a small price to pay. cause if they dont more and more people will leave the land or outright top themselves from depression brought on by social isolation

of course when you realise how much money the gov make out of making these guys dependant on their cars ya have to ask if the will is there.