Charlesland Bus Services - Finnegans/Dublin Bus

wingding

Here's a link to information on the finnegans night bus. Came across it and thought it might be handy to know during the Christmas period!

http://www.finnegan-bray.ie/index_files/Page816.htm

Eoin

Good find. Will stick this for the festive season...

new arrival

and the Dublin Bus Night link to Greytones......... 84N

http://www.dublinbus.ie/news_centre/ChristmasNitelink.pdf

Sparks115

Hi all jsut to advise while I think that Finnegans bus service is brilliant and very safe for us lovely ladies at xmas time. The 1am bus gets you home in under 1 hr...I got the 3am bus a couple of weeks ago and when it pulled up outside Charlesland it was 5am!!!! NO JOKE!!! It seemed to go around Bray forever...thank God I didnt need to go to the little girls room and a very nice man walked me up the way to my house. But seriously the last bus drops every tom dick and harry to god knows where... so dont get on if you have had a lot of beer otherwise you will be singing the song!!!:D Otherwise a great friendly service.....well worth €7:D

loyatemu

by coincidence I emailed Finnegans today about Xmas services:

Every night except Sunday from Thursday 14th up to Sat 23rd.
No bus Christmas Eve or Christmas night
Bus is on St Stephens Night and then Thursday 28th up to and incl New Years
Eve.


I also emailed Dublin Bus asking why every other Nitelink starts at 0030 but the 84N starts at 0200. They cited "lack of demand" for an earlier service, which I think means everyone gets the 1am finnegans bus, but thats not much use if you live in Greystones. So if you want to leave town between 2330 (last dart) and 0200 (84N) its a €60 cab ride for you.

loyatemu

watch this thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055025615

Tanith

The way I read the Finnegans bus service they only go via Charlesland on the 3am bus and only to Graystones village on the 1am which is a bit of a walk!! Please tell me the 1am goes via Charlesland too???

loyatemu

bad news - The 1am only goes to Bray. The 3am goes to Greystones - then onto Charlesland and Kilcoole, but it does a grand tour of Bray before going on to greystones so it takes forever to get home (though on one occassion I got it, they put the Greystones passengers onto a different bus at the Royal Hotel and went direct to Greystones).

Nightbuses summary:

2300 - last 84 to Kilcoole
2330 - last DART to Greystones
0100 - Finnegans to Bray only
0200 - 84N to Greystones Station only
0300 - Finnegans to Bray, Greystones, Charlesland, Kilcoole
0400 - 84N to Greystones station only.

wingding

The 1am bus only goes as far as Bray. If you want to be dropped to Charlesland the only option is the 3am Finnegans as the nightlink only drops to the dart.:(

Sparks115

Just to let you know if you do get the 1am Finnegans Bus if you ask the driver when you get on that you need a taxi from Bray to Greystones he twice has radio-ed ahead for me and when we get to the far side of Bray there is a Taxi company and they had a taxi waiting for me to bring me to Charlesland!!! Execellent service have to say TOP NOTCH!! It cost me €10 to get home but by taxi sure hey better than €60 from town.

mikedragon32

Good news indeed, if it pans out.

The only thing I would say Loyatemu is that unless you have a bus pass/weekly ticket or whatever, your trip to the pub (mentioned in that thread) will cost about €3 as there is a minimum fare on the X busses!

Marcais

mikedragon32 wrote:

Good news indeed, if it pans out.

The only thing I would say Loyatemu is that unless you have a bus pass/weekly ticket or whatever, your trip to the pub (mentioned in that thread) will cost about €3 as there is a minimum fare on the X busses!

Yeah, I think it'll be €1.30 each way to Greystones. I'd imagine alot of people only have DART passes.

Runnig a shuttle bus full time and charging 50c per trip might be feasible, or even buying/leasing a bus ourselves!

Marcais

mikedragon32 wrote:

Good news indeed, if it pans out.

The only thing I would say Loyatemu is that unless you have a bus pass/weekly ticket or whatever, your trip to the pub (mentioned in that thread) will cost about €3 as there is a minimum fare on the X busses!

Yeah, I think it'll be €1.30 each way to Greystones. I'd imagine alot of people only have DART passes.

Running a shuttle bus full time and charging 50c per trip might be feasible, or even buying/leasing a bus ourselves!

loyatemu

Marcais wrote:

Yeah, I think it'll be €1.30 each way to Greystones. I'd imagine alot of people only have DART passes.

Running a shuttle bus full time and charging 50c per trip might be feasible, or even buying/leasing a bus ourselves!

well I have a bus\rail pass

running the shuttle bus full time would be very expensive - it would only (possibly) pay for itself if you charged at peak times also. Patronage off peak would be fairly low.

the other thread mentions the possibility of some 184s serving charlesland - these would be normal fare.

Plenty

I saw the 84x on the dual carriage way as I left the estate this morning. I wonder if it's doing a trial run?

loyatemu

Plenty wrote:

I saw the 84x on the dual carriage way as I left the estate this morning. I wonder if it's doing a trial run?

nah - there's always been one 84X in the morning from charlesland.

mikedragon32

Does anyone know what time that bus is supposed to leave at? I thought it was 7:45, but it wasn't there last week when I'd planned to take it!

Joliegood

It goes at 7.35. Another one passed up through Charlesland on it's way to Kilcoole this morning at about 10am. I hope there is finally a proper service, the walk up the road in the winter is a nightmare.

Plenty

loyatemu wrote:

nah - there's always been one 84X in the morning from charlesland.

Fair enough, I'm just not as observant as I first thought

Tanith

Hey Guys,

thanks for all the info - bit crap really isn't it? But the taxi idea from Bray is a good one

loyatemu

update on this:

new 84x timetable now at
http://www.dublinbus.ie/your_journey/viewer.asp?route=84x

the services marked as being to\from Kilcoole and Newcastle go through Charlesland. The services To\From Newtown do not.

More significantly the 184 now goes through Charlesland (although Dublin Bus' website doesn't state this). Saw a couple over the weekend displaying "Newtown (via Charlesland)" and "Bray Station (via Charlesland)" It appears all 184s now come up to Charlesland from Greystones, then head back towards Greystones before continuing to either Bray or Newtown.

Finally, and most importantly, the Byrnes are running an Xmas shuttle bus between the Beach House, Burnaby and Wicklow Arms which serves a number of estates including Charlesland. Don't have any more details, but it was in the Times on Saturday being launched by Big Dick Roche. (Burnaby and Beach House are also participating the Coca Cola designated driver thingy if you prefer to drive to the pub)

Marcais

Good news, but it looks like it is €2.20 one way Charlesland to Greystones (Zone 2-3)! 3 sharing a taxi would be cheaper!

Adult Single Child Single (U16)

Travel within any 1 zone €1.90 ?1.60

Travel between any 2 zones €2.20 ?1.60

Travel between any 3 zones ?3.00 ?1.60

Travel between any 4 zones ?3.10 ?1.80

ps. great to see Dick Roche making such good use of his/our time!

loyatemu wrote:

update on this:

new 84x timetable now at
http://www.dublinbus.ie/your_journey/viewer.asp?route=84x

the services marked as being to\from Kilcoole and Newcastle go through Charlesland. The services To\From Newtown do not.

More significantly the 184 now goes through Charlesland (although Dublin Bus' website doesn't state this). Saw a couple over the weekend displaying "Newtown (via Charlesland)" and "Bray Station (via Charlesland)" It appears all 184s now come up to Charlesland from Greystones, then head back towards Greystones before continuing to either Bray or Newtown.

Finally, and most importantly, the Byrnes are running an Xmas shuttle bus between the Beach House, Burnaby and Wicklow Arms which serves a number of estates including Charlesland. Don't have any more details, but it was in the Times on Saturday being launched by Big Dick Roche. (Burnaby and Beach House are also participating the Coca Cola designated driver thingy if you prefer to drive to the pub)

loyatemu

Marcais wrote:

Good news, but it looks like it is €2.20 one way Charlesland to Greystones (Zone 2-3)! 3 sharing a taxi would be cheaper!

aye, but should be only 95c on the 184 and it runs roughly every half hour during the day. Difficult to tell what times it will hit Charlesland though as the timetable only shows the departure times from Bray and Kilpeddar.

Joliegood

loyatemu wrote:

update on this:


Finally, and most importantly, the Byrnes are running an Xmas shuttle bus between the Beach House, Burnaby and Wicklow Arms which serves a number of estates including Charlesland. Don't have any more details, but it was in the Times on Saturday being launched by Big Dick Roche. (Burnaby and Beach House are also participating the Coca Cola designated driver thingy if you prefer to drive to the pub)

That bus did not show up last night, nor according to the cab driver (when we eventually got one) did it on Saturday night either. Good to hear that the 184 is going to Charlesland now though, about time.

mikedragon32

I was on the Charlesland Bus this morning and saw a 184 heading towards Greystones. It went straight through, not up to Charlesland. Is it definite that all buses go up?

Charlie-Bravo

I'm fairly sure that the 184 goes from Bray to Greystones then by the rugby club (Mill Road) up through the mini-roundabouts to Delgany and then on down the N11 to Newtown...

...and the return journey is back along the N11 to the Glenview Hotel bridge and down through Delgany and so on.

Do you think it will come up to Charlesland and then head back to Delgany on the Killincarrig road or perhaps totally miss out on Delgany and head striaght up the SAR to the N11?

As for the 84...I suppose considering the above its the only bus route to make sense to short-cut through Charlesland to get to Kilcoole, Newcastle etc. instead of going up Mill Road to the mini-roundabouts and doing a left to get to Kilcoole!

loyatemu

mikedragon32 wrote:

I was on the Charlesland Bus this morning and saw a 184 heading towards Greystones. It went straight through, not up to Charlesland. Is it definite that all buses go up?

its not definite, as there is no confirmation from Dublin Bus.

But I've seen several 184s since Saturday and they've all had "Via Charlesland" on their display. The one bus I did see in Charlesland went up to the main roundabout, went all the way around and headed back towards Greystones. There were passengers on board and the display said "Newtown (via Charlesland)".

This thread - http://p201.ezboard.com/fbustravelirelandfrm8.showMessage?topicID=1265.topic - seems to suggest that the drivers have been paid a bonus for this routing change.

quag

does anyone know what time the 84x goes through charlesland around 7.30/7.35 since the change? Thanks

mikedragon32

quag wrote:

does anyone know what time the 84x goes through charlesland around 7.30/7.35 since the change? Thanks

Earlier in this thread...

joliegood wrote:

It goes at 7.35.

quag

Thanks Mike,
It actually went at 7.35 under the old timetable. Im just wondering when they go through around that time now that the timetable has changed. It doesnt look from the timetable that theres any that leave from charlesland now, just pass through.

loyatemu

looks like the 84X does the same thing as the 184 - ie it travels from Kilcoole to Greystones via Killincarrig then turns up towards charlesland, goes right around the superquinn roundabout and heads back towards Greystones (and vice-versa in the evening).

I would've thought about 15-20 minutes to get from Kilcoole to Charlesland that way. According to the timetable one leaves Kilcoole at 0710 and another leaves Newcastle at 0715 then 2 more from Kilcoole at 0730 and 0745

Mullie

Myself and 3 others got a taxi from Wexford St to Charlesland for €30 recently. You can get a deal if you do some haggling.

wingding

The timetable for the 84X on the dublin bus website does not have journey times. Anyone know how long it takes?

loyatemu

depends on the time of day - took 80 minutes from Eden Quay to Charlesland the other day, that was leaving town at 1645. Inbound in the morning might be slightly quicker, off peak services should be a lot quicker (an hour maybe?)

Suder

It seems as though the 184 does a loop through Charlesland on its way in both directions (nearly went to Kilpeddar this morning instead of Bray!). So it just comes in, goes up to the Superquinn roundabout and then goes back out along its normal route.

anniec

Its great to see a new bus service however it only runs mon-fri and the timing is adhoc!

loyatemu

Suder wrote:

It seems as though the 184 does a loop through Charlesland on its way in both directions (nearly went to Kilpeddar this morning instead of Bray!). So it just comes in, goes up to the Superquinn roundabout and then goes back out along its normal route.

yeah - the 84X does the same so you need to check what it says on the front of the bus and hope the driver has remembered to change the display correctly.

anniec wrote:

Its great to see a new bus service however it only runs mon-fri and the timing is adhoc!

the 184 runs 7 days a week, 84x only mon-fri

maybe we could have a sticky - "Transport in Charlesland" detailing the different service now serving the estate and times of the shuttle bus?

Charlie-Bravo

loyatemu wrote:

maybe we could have a sticky - "Transport in Charlesland" detailing the different service now serving the estate and times of the shuttle bus?

Add in Nitelink and Finnegans also...Maybe Mike can rename the Finnegan's Night Bus sticky???

mikedragon32

Seek and ye shall receive (within reason!).

Sticky renamed and merged.

daveyo

lads have xmas party 21st in town annyone wanna share a cab home to charlesland.. couldnt be arsed with busses... i loath the bus...:eek:

loyatemu

anyone used the Pub Bus yet - was driving up through the village at around 9 last night but didn't see it anywhere.

Is it reliable? (its supposed to depart Redford at 1930, 2000, 2030 & 2100 each evening, hitting Charlesland 15 minutes later).

Charlie-Bravo

Is it a Finnegan bus? I've only seen a small Finnegan bus so far.

loyatemu

astrofluff wrote:

Is it a Finnegan bus? I've only seen a small Finnegan bus so far.

yeah thats it - i got it home from the village last week (after getting off the last dart). but don't know if the service to the pub earlier in the evening is reliable - don't want to be standing around pointlessly in the cold.

wingding

INCH wrote:

Just to let you know if you do get the 1am Finnegans Bus if you ask the driver when you get on that you need a taxi from Bray to Greystones he twice has radio-ed ahead for me and when we get to the far side of Bray there is a Taxi company and they had a taxi waiting for me to bring me to Charlesland!!! Execellent service have to say TOP NOTCH!! It cost me €10 to get home but by taxi sure hey better than €60 from town.

I did this on Friday night, but the taxi charged me €16! He hesitated when I asked him what the price was, I figure he just pulls a figure out of his head! I would usually have questioned the price but I was just too tired!:(