Funny hand from the jackpot 100dc

Hectorjelly

Im on the bb with 45o. A guy who is wearing a wooly hat inside with cheap headphones on over it turned loud enough so that I can hear the annoying hum from the other side of the dealer OPEN LIMPS on the button LOL. I have about 10k chips, with the big blind of 800. The sb completes and I check. The flop comes up QQJ. Sb checks, I check and the button button bets 1k. Sb folds and I make it 3k. Button thinks for a long time moving moving his chips back and forth, and finally folds. I think about showing him but decide not to.

I find out later that he is Rooney Dives! Which is doubly funny because I wouldnt of bluffed him if I knew who he was and thought he knew who I was, and if I had of bluffed him I definitely would of showed!

White Knight

Hector did you see the hand I heard about? Some guy pushed for 3600 from the cut off with 300 in the middle with Q3o, got called by AQ and flopped a 3 to luckbox his way to some chips. No doubt it was +EV whoever he was considering he had position!

ditpoker

Hectorjelly wrote:

Im on the bb with 45o.

i gotta start playing hands like that with the same re-raising/re-re-raising confidence as yourself! vnh, wp!

I heard rooney_dives was playing it but no idea who he is.

ntlbell

I'm pretty sure I know who it is, I'm also pretty sure it's not Mr Dives, I thought it was him a few times aswell.

I could be very wrong tho.

LuckyLloyd

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ocallagh

If anyone who posts on boards was playing that hand against HJ they would move in over the top of the 3k bet because we all know HJ doesn't like to check raise with trips when playing with large stacks.... but now that we know your style maybe the next time you'll have it.... but you might know that we're thinking that so you probably won't have it.

So in theory it is probably +EV to just shove whenever HJ check raises... agreed?

ntlbell

ocallagh wrote:

If anyone who posts on boards was playing that hand against HJ they would move in over the top of the 3k bet because we all know HJ doesn't like to check raise with trips when playing with large stacks.... but now that we know your style maybe the next time you'll have it.... but you might know that we're thinking that so you probably won't have it.

So in theory it is probably +EV to just shove whenever HJ check raises... agreed?

I just shove when he raises. KILL HJ THEORY

cardshark202

ntlbell wrote:

I'm pretty sure I know who it is, I'm also pretty sure it's not Mr Dives, I thought it was him a few times aswell.

I could be very wrong tho.

yes you could be.

As an aside, Dunphy is as usual acting the total tard on TV.

ntlbell

cardshark202 wrote:

yes you could be.

As an aside, Dunphy is as usual acting the total tard on TV.

Dunphy has a point tho Reg, it would be like me just walking around tourney tables taken the chips and moving them and my seat and waiting at the final table. he's a cheat!

ntlbell

Sorry I meant golf balls and tiger woods...and fairways

LuckyLloyd

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ntlbell

LuckyLloyd wrote:

You can't get outplayed when you move all - in...:rolleyes:

I was joking...

I think i've only ever been involved in one hand with HJ in the 500 FO in city west and it went something like this

HJ raises norwich fan rob re-raises ntlbell pushes

hand over.

They both knew I only play AA

I would love to get a chance to play with him a lot more tho.

FoxRiver8

Hat + cheap earphones = me (RD). Broke my earphones the other week, caught on the swivel chair, too lazy too unravel them so i yanked them - wp!!! Wear hat to hide dodgy hair mainly....

been trying a new theory out for the past while in tournaments of limping/limp-reraising in LP, mixed results but im gonna stick to it for a while,bit stubborn like that, i just find the resteal is too easy in the current climate of tournament poker. so lately ive been on a 0-steal policy.

Hand itself, limped AT button, blinds complete, i lead out , check raised, was gonna push (only hand i saw the guy show down was Q3 v AQ , and everytime he raised he was reraised and folded) but decided i'd too little committed to risk my game for him to turn over J 2 or something. I was fairly sure he wouldnt reraise the flop with a set, but.....ah sure cant win em all

ditpoker

LuckyLloyd wrote:

You can't get outplayed when you move all - in...:rolleyes:

been there, tried that, lost the hand...

ntlbell

ditpoker wrote:

been there, tried that, lost the hand...

It only works against people called phil apprently



(where is my hoody?)

Hectorjelly

White Knight wrote:

Hector did you see the hand I heard about? Some guy pushed for 3600 from the cut off with 300 in the middle with Q3o, got called by AQ and flopped a 3 to luckbox his way to some chips. No doubt it was +EV whoever he was considering he had position!

haha, if you are going to relate a hand you should try and get even a small portion of it right, there were 3 limpers for 200 each and I pushed from the small blind for 2100 with Q3 and got called by a guy who limped with KQ.

Hectorjelly

ocallagh wrote:

If anyone who posts on boards was playing that hand against HJ they would move in over the top of the 3k bet because we all know HJ doesn't like to check raise with trips when playing with large stacks.... but now that we know your style maybe the next time you'll have it.... but you might know that we're thinking that so you probably won't have it.

So in theory it is probably +EV to just shove whenever HJ check raises... agreed?

I had about 13 blinds, which is about as far away as you can get from a large stack as possible!

Hectorjelly

FoxRiver8 wrote:

Hat + cheap earphones = me (RD). Broke my earphones the other week, caught on the swivel chair, too lazy too unravel them so i yanked them - wp!!! Wear hat to hide dodgy hair mainly....

been trying a new theory out for the past while in tournaments of limping/limp-reraising in LP, mixed results but im gonna stick to it for a while,bit stubborn like that, i just find the resteal is too easy in the current climate of tournament poker. so lately ive been on a 0-steal policy.

Hand itself, limped AT button, blinds complete, i lead out , check raised, was gonna push (only hand i saw the guy show down was Q3 v AQ , and everytime he raised he was reraised and folded) but decided i'd too little committed to risk my game for him to turn over J 2 or something. I was fairly sure he wouldnt reraise the flop with a set, but.....ah sure cant win em all

I apologise, I had no idea who you were, I would of introduced myself.

If you find people are restealing too readily, then just be a lot more liberal in your calls of reraises. I dont think open limping on the button with ATo is going to get you anywhere.

FoxRiver8

Pot, kettle and black, the 45 bluff was at 200/400, because i bet 1k into a 1200 pot, and u had 7500 when u made it 3k, the main reason for the fold, a good move on ur part, it looked like u were committed. Wp. I'm fairly sure you are incorrect on the Q3 hand also but i'll spare an argument because it's inconsequential,so i'll assume u are right.

Re: limping LP, like i said mixed results so far, i'm working on adapting it to suit my game, can agree to disagree on its merits.

Hectorjelly

FoxRiver8 wrote:

Pot, kettle and black, the 45 bluff was at 200/400, because i bet 1k into a 1200 pot, and u had 7500 when u made it 3k, the main reason for the fold, a good move on ur part, it looked like u were committed. Wp. I'm fairly sure you are incorrect on the Q3 hand also but i'll spare an argument because it's inconsequential,so i'll assume u are right.

Re: limping LP, like i said mixed results so far, i'm working on adapting it to suit my game, can agree to disagree on its merits.

I thought the bluff was at the 800 level, but I wouldnt be certain about it. In fact its completely irrelevant for the hand. In fact the hand itself isnt interesting or strange at all, I just posted it because it was a funny twist of fate. If I had of known it was you I wouldnt of played the hand the same way.

The details that were wrong on the Q3 hand were essential to the hand, the two scenarios that are detailed are very different. I am 100% sure that I was the small blind, and that I had around 2k. The guy who had KQ (and had limped in early position), and Im sure he had KQ and not AQ. He showed me a queen at first and I thought I was totally screwed and he had QQ. The flop then came A35, so AQ would of won. Im also certain that I was the small blind, I had just over 2k in chips and thought I had just enough to push people off hands like KQ and so on. Obviously I was mistaken, and given how loose that guy was it was a bad push. It wasnt as bad as pushing 18 blinds into an unopened pot from the cutoff which yourself and white knight seem to be suggesting though. In fact the hand as descibed by white knight could not of taken place due to the seating arrangment.

I have found in general, that for important hands I remember every single detail involved; even from hands that occured years ago. But when I talk to bad players just minutes after a hand they are unsure about even very crucial details like the position of the preflop raiser and so on. I dont think its just a question of memory, I think a huge part of being a good player is being able to take in and process all of the relevant information in the time you have allocated to you. If that doesnt happen in those seconds you are unlikely to remember them the next day.

The only thing you will get me to agree about limping ATo on the cutoff is that its awful, Ive tried my best to be polite about it but it is pretty much the opposite of the way to play good poker.

FoxRiver8

The Q 3 hand i just told my bro about, so my bad not his. I had 1 eye on Barcelona match but i'm still fairly sure it was not as you say. You say you remember the important hands and its a quality of a good player, yet you remembered the 4 5 hand enough to boast about it (in the wrong part of the forum) yet describe it totally inaccurately both in terms of stack sizes and blinds. I remember both quite well because whilst fiddling with my chips (pedantic but i didnt really, i cant do chip tricks, not even the shuffle and my hands were cold) i was counting your stack and the pot to see if you were committed.

Limping in LP with AT, view it what way you will im not gonna try persuade or dissuade you of any poker theory, never would attempt that. Think i'd have more chance selling ice to eskimos. i did it and thats that really, not gonna start a thread on the merits of limping in LP.

Hectorjelly

FoxRiver8 wrote:

The Q 3 hand i just told my bro about, so my bad not his. I had 1 eye on Barcelona match but i'm still fairly sure it was not as you say. You say you remember the important hands and its a quality of a good player, yet you remembered the 4 5 hand enough to boast about it (in the wrong part of the forum) yet describe it totally inaccurately both in terms of stack sizes and blinds. I remember both quite well because whilst fiddling with my chips (pedantic but i didnt really, i cant do chip tricks, not even the shuffle and my hands were cold) i was counting your stack and the pot to see if you were committed.

Limping in LP with AT, view it what way you will im not gonna try persuade or dissuade you of any poker theory, never would attempt that. Think i'd have more chance selling ice to eskimos. i did it and thats that really, not gonna start a thread on the merits of limping in LP.

I wasnt boasting at all, I think bragging about any one paticular hand is quite gross really, and shows a total lack of understanding of poker. The situation was set up for me to bluff, all that was of interest was the two protaganists who didnt even know they were playing each other!

I think its quite weird that you think you remember a hand that you werent involved in, and were watching a match at the same time, better than the main protaganist. I remember every detail of that hand because I was paying a lot of attention at that time, the 45o hand I dont remember because I wasnt really paying much attention to the hand. I was surprised you limped and just raised as a spur of the moment decision because your bet was just asking to be attacked.

FoxRiver8

Point taken. Bet did look weak, your reraise felt weak too, but you put enough of your stack in to make me think you werent folding so i think its a case of you playing the hand quite well. The Q 3 was the only hand i saw u showdown ,and only hand i played with you was the AT v 45 hand so my only reason for remembering it, just something i considered on the hand.

Vikings

Hectorjelly wrote:

...with cheap headphones on...

Thanks Hector, thanks. Those were my earphones... there will be repercussions. Mainly me sulking.

ianmc38

White Knight wrote:

Hector did you see the hand I heard about? Some guy pushed for 3600 from the cut off with 300 in the middle with Q3o, got called by AQ and flopped a 3 to luckbox his way to some chips. No doubt it was +EV whoever he was considering he had position!

I find that hard to believe.

El Stuntman

Hectorjelly wrote:

I have found in general, that for important hands I remember every single detail involved; even from hands that occured years ago

just like Mozart, yikes

Most days I can't even distinguish names between my wife, my daughter and my dog...never mind remember what happened in a poker hand. I am most impressed

5starpool

This thread can only only go bad places, so it is locked. FoxRiver8 banned as a returning banned user (this moderator stuff isn't fun all the time ya know) also.

Just to end the thread with a relevant point, I also can't understand how people fail to remember critical hands, and try ti disagree with me when I retell them even though I am right. Ah well.