Where to buy a decent dish incl postage

TheDriver

Hi Folks,
After the recent spate of bad weather and heavy rain making me realise a cheap dish is not a great idea and at moment hanging on with lot of cable ties and dodgy block of wood (photo would be a rogues gallery candidate) and the size of 55x45 not sufficient in bad weather anymore (though was before funnily enough), I need to get a decent dish. Problem with last one was only one nut kept the elevation level and wind is severe where it is located hence wouldn't stay in position, I put this down to plastic fittings at back of dish and only one bolt unlike neighbours sky dish with 2 bolts for elevation and strong metal.
Was looking at triax 64 maybe (presume it really is 64 all round?) or even 78, where could I get these including delivery to Cork, prefer to buy Irish if the difference isn't much (presume the triax has good fixing for elevation coz wind is desperate where I have dish or what about fortec star in Maplin?)
Definitely think dish worth spending few bobs on to all who look for cheapest!
Thanks folks!

Aquos76

Well you could take a look at the sticky on the top of this section, but I would definitely recommend www.satellite.ie

I have used them on a few occasssions in the past and found them excellent for service and next day delivery.

TheDriver

Thanks Aquos76, wanted to get advice before tackling the list for only a dish. What do they charge for postage for a dish can you recall?

Aquos76

About 10e as far as I can recall. The website is quite good and it shows you the all the postage charges.

watty

70 to 85 cm is fine.

Too big a dish on Astra2/Eurobird 28E and you may overload the LNB!

90 to 95 for weaker sats or motor. 110 for very much weaker sats and only if your motor is not exposed and can take it. Above 110 you need a lot of concrete and more professional 36V systems if motorising.

TheDriver

Thanks for your replies, I never knew you could overload an LNB with too big a dish.
Think I will go for a Triax 78 which I believe is only 78x70. Did any of ye ever use this type of dish i.e. is it all metal or any nasty plastic bits?
Watty: As always, your reputation preceedes you!

localchap

watty wrote:

70 to 85 cm is fine.

Too big a dish on Astra2/Eurobird 28E and you may overload the LNB!

90 to 95 for weaker sats or motor. 110 for very much weaker sats and only if your motor is not exposed and can take it. Above 110 you need a lot of concrete and more professional 36V systems if motorising.

To me above statement sounds like entire NONsense, how could you overload LNB?????With what?????Extremely strong signal???;)
I had sky minidish, now have been using triax 80cm for 2 yrs, my 120cm one coming up next month, using some chinese LNBs 2 of them, not a problem recorded at all.
Theorytically, I'd say overloading of LNB possible only in case when you use some dish like 500-600cm!In that case signal amplifying would be really tremendeous!!!In case of increasing dish size for even 40cm its ok.
I had my last dish installation a week ago replacing 80cm to 130 everything went just perfect no LNB overload:)

watty

Read Tele-Satellite and Dr. Dish.
It is proven that both the LNB and Digital Receiver Tuner performance actually degrades if the signal is too strong. You will see %Quality actually drop when signal goes beyond a certain point.

All your channels may be OK to watch with 130cm on Sky, but in reality you can have too much of a good thing! I agree you won't have a problem, but it is likely that some channels have slightly higher BER now that with a 80cm / 90cm dish.

Depends where you are. Some places need 3m to get the same signal as 65cm dish in Ireland.

Also if you have Multiple LNBs on one dish pointing at 13E or 19E, the signal on the 28.2E LNB is reduced as it is not at real focus. I am using a 100/110cm dish this way pointed at about 16E.

Every double of diameter gives 4 times the signal.

joe25

Shop in waterford wanted €145 for 1m dish.is this alot?

Tony

if its a triax or similar quality it sounds about right for Ireland.

kramlq

joe25 wrote:

Shop in waterford wanted €145 for 1m dish.is this alot?

Well I recently got a 85cm dish (or 90cm depending on how you measure) from Germany for €78 including delivery. It arrived in 4 days. I asked first what was the largest dish they send and was told up to 1m wouldnt be a problem (but this policy varies between shops).

(I bought from www.digi-sat-online.de by the way)

dublinli

i got a 1 m gibertini dish from the same shop in germany. I had a cryptoworks module and smart 0.2 db lnb in the order and the whole thing worked out at 145 euro. Normally I wouldn't have bought the dish from an online shop but the guys here were charging me nearly the same amount for the module.

Ulsterman 1690

Aquos76 wrote:

Well you could take a look at the sticky on the top of this section, but I would definitely recommend www.satellite.ie

I have used them on a few occasssions in the past and found them excellent for service and next day delivery.

Id concur with what Aquos says
Bought an 80cm dish (Triax IIRC) and some wallmounts off Tony onetime
Built like a brick $h1£house they are

L1011

Wallmount off Tony that I suspended myself off to make sure it was OK , but he didn't have large enough dishes at the time - or they were damn well hidden on the website, so it came from Germany. And nearly herniated the poor UPS man.

Tony

MYOB wrote:

Wallmount off Tony that I suspended myself off to make sure it was OK , but he didn't have large enough dishes at the time - or they were damn well hidden on the website, so it came from Germany. And nearly herniated the poor UPS man.

Your right they were not there. They only way I could do them was to ship directly from a warehouse and A. they were over priced and B. they were either late or lost most of the time so the service level was not what i expect and in the end it was hurting my reputation so decided to stop doing the 1.1 m. The germans selling bigger dishes seem to offer good value.

kramlq

Tony wrote:

Your right they were not there. They only way I could do them was to ship directly from a warehouse and A. they were over priced and B. they were either late or lost most of the time so the service level was not what i expect and in the end it was hurting my reputation so decided to stop doing the 1.1 m. The germans selling bigger dishes seem to offer good value.

Many of the german shops dont seem to want the hassle involved with such large dishes either. Several I contacted had a limit of 1m. I nearly went with a 1m Triax, but would probably need to redo the mount for such a heavy dish, so I settled for a Gibertini 90cm (seems to have a good record for performance).

ShevY

Recently I ordered a gilbertini 1m dish from germany.
Shipping was with GLS, it was shipped from germany, i tracked it to Ireland where GLS Ireland decided it was too big so sent it back to the company in germany. Why did they take it in the first place in germany??!! :mad: