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bad time to try and squeeze??

  • 30-11-2006 8:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭


    recent live freezeout tourney about half the field left.
    blinds 200/400
    villain 1 3k just joined the table no reads.
    villain 2 20k Lag recently rivered a house to give him a large stack.
    villain 3 7k just joined table no reads.
    hero 12k

    villain 1 raises UTG to 800.
    villain 2 UTG + 2 reraises to 2000
    villain 3 MP cold calls
    folded round to me in the button i look down at QQ.

    i shove......good/bad? and why?

    all comments appreciated.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭delanec8


    Standard, you shouldnt really consider any other options IMO. Not really a squeeze play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    if u made it 6k+ with j4o it'd be a squeeze.


    Standard move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    I would guess that you are often behind to this action but I would still pop it in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    right sorry not a squeeze got the terminology wrong :o

    what i mean is was it the right move considering the raise reraise and cold call?

    the cold call in itself is screaming big hand is that enough for anyone to find a fold?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    In a live game, ppl are muppets, so get it in here .... but I really dont like that action and fear that we are beaten in one spot, and maybe even two.

    I wish I could fold in this spot, but I usually cant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I would guess that you are often behind to this action but I would still pop it in.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    What Fuzzbox said. Welcome to Pushville, population - YOU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭gocall01


    Unfortunately I push here, it's an instant reaction...

    If I was looking for a fold here I would think of:
    1. UTG min raises, suspicious bet, not a blind steal from here (has something).
    2. UTG+2, PP, either way ahead or way behind or race against AK (could be wider range if really a LAG).
    3. MP, worrying cold call with nearly a third of stack.

    I believe you may get called by 2 & 3 here and be facing PP & AK (or even a KJ - not sure about the LAG).
    As it goes any A, K, J or 10 may beat you.

    Still I push here and hope to hold up and if I get wacked I hope it is by a smaller stack so I can rebuild...

    [Does this make any sence at all?]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,669 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    A raise, re-raise and a flat call before me.
    I think QQ is usually behind here, fold.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭StraddleFor6


    Hum and Haw for 5 mins, then fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    It depends how good your opponents are and how they've been playing.

    But mostly push.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Looking at the stacks in play, the action is weird anyway:

    Villain 1 has 3K with blinds at 200/400 and he min-raises? It's something that an idiot would do with Aces, and if he's doing it with any other hand, he's still an idiot. Conclusion: villain one is an idiot.

    Villain 2: Big stack only re-raises to 2K. Why doesn't he put the short stack all-in? I don't understand this raise at all. Can someone explain it to me?

    Villain 3: Calls the 2K, leaving 5K behind, or 12BBs. If he has Aces or Kings, I think he should be pushing with the action before him, as the big-stack LAG will call him most of the time. So it looks like a call with a hand he's happy to get away from on the flop.

    So fcuk it, push and be done with it. The hand is too weird.


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