New 23,000 seat GAA stadium in Newbridge

dowlingm

Anyone know how far the site is from the railway station? One would hope that people could be encouraged to go to games via rail rather than clogging up the town with cars.

sameoldname

It says here that it is planned to be built behind the Wyeth building and be served by a new ring road.
Thats pretty much the opposite side of town from the station.

I presume they want to build it there as its very close to the Naas-Newbridge dual carriageway.

dowlingm

still don't get it do we...

Bogger77

dowlingm wrote:

still don't get it do we...

What build it beside the Train station and have the entire town clogged up with people coming to the match in car/bus? Have you visited Newbridge on a normal Sunday lately?

Look at Thurles, station just down the road from the ground, yet cars parked for several miles around the ground.

Train works if people will be coming from a place connected by train to that station, so in the case of Kildare, most of Laois, Offaly, Meath, Wicklow, Carlow (all the neighbouring counties), and the likely visitors to the ground, adding in most of Kildare, ie all of nothern Kildare, would not have a direct connection to the town via Train, and will be travelling by road to any matches at that venue.

Add in the hit and miss time tabling, and Sunday services on the Dublin-Cork/Galway line. A person living in Monastervin would not be able to get a train from the station there to Newbridge (unless you call 6am and 10am services convenient).

Nope, we don't get it! Maybe some people should just admit that "Train" isn't always the answer. Better infrastructure and interlinking of services is needed, before a rural section of population (ie most GAA fans outside of Dublin) can be expected to take the train to provincal grounds.

It's 14.50euro return (next sunday) from my nearest train station to Newbridge, so for the 3 of us that travel together that's 43.50e, would cost maybe 25 max in Petrol

dowlingm

bogger - bit of a difference between an intercity station like thurles and a commuter station like newbridge - not to mention that people have further to travel given the larger county sizes in Munster. Plenty of people use the DART to get to Lansdowne.

BuffyBot

bit of a difference between an intercity station like thurles and a commuter station like newbridge

To be persnickity, Newbridge is an "intercity" station as such and was before much of the current commuter traffic came along.

There would be no possiblity of building a stadium near the station anyway, as it's too much of a residential area.

Bogger77

dowlingm wrote:

bogger - bit of a difference between an intercity station like thurles and a commuter station like newbridge - not to mention that people have further to travel given the larger county sizes in Munster. Plenty of people use the DART to get to Lansdowne.

In terms on Sunday timetable, Thurles and Newbridge are both Intercity. There's more trains from Dublin to Newbridge, with the Arrow service, but there's feck extra on Sunday.

Why quote that the dart goes to lansdowne? does it go to Newbridge? There's a world outside of the Dublin options. Dart does not call at lansdowne until 60mins after a major match. Grand Canal shuts as well, so nearest station is Pearse. Wanna get RedLine Luas, you're beeter of walking to abbey street or Bus Aras.
GAA built platforms under the Canal end of Croker, which will have never been used. The Station at Drumcondra is not used for match specials.

Irish Rail don't like dealing with large crowds of people who may wish to use their service.

Imposter

As has been said most people just will not have a convenient rail link to Newbridge. Any stadiums in Dublin city can work with public transport as a large portion of the crowd will come from Dublin city. GAA matches (outside of croker) as very different.

I also read somewhere that this is a 6-7k seated and the rest standing stadium and not a 23k all-seater.

Winters

Bogger77 wrote:

GAA built platforms under the Canal end of Croker, which will have never been used. The Station at Drumcondra is not used for match specials.

No platforms were built as part of the Croke Park redevelopment. There are no plans to build a train station under the Davin Stand (Canal End) and there never have been any serious plans to in the past. Currently IE have no medium or long term plans for stations on the midland line apart from the Docklands station now under construction.

Drumcondra Station is not suitable to handling large crowds and as such is not used. Plans are a foot to redevelop the station in the future in conjunction with the metro north station planned there.

Victor

Bogger77 wrote:

In terms on Sunday timetable, Thurles and Newbridge are both Intercity. There's more trains from Dublin to Newbridge, with the Arrow service, but there's feck extra on Sunday.

Isn´t there open farmland north of Newbridge station?

Why quote that the dart goes to lansdowne? does it go to Newbridge?

Newbridge happens to have a lot of routes going through it, so with a few extra trains on a match day, it could make all the difference.

Dart does not call at lansdowne until 60mins after a major match.

This may change, they are putting a proper underpass under the road, reducing the train / pedestrian conflict, but this is subject to review.

Grand Canal shuts as well, so nearest station is Pearse.

No, Sandymount is nearer.

Irish Rail don't like dealing with large crowds of people who may wish to use their service.

Its preferable for crowds to have dispersed before they get to the train station. Having X thousand people show up at the same time isn´t safe.

DerekP11

Victor wrote:

Its preferable for crowds to have dispersed before they get to the train station. Having X thousand people show up at the same time isnçt safe.

Did you ever visit the Tube station at Wembley. Free flow on the way in and police crowd control on the way out. It was sweet!

Maskhadov

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