Undercover Garda Cars

drdre

Just out of curiosity,
Why do undercover cars have 3-4 aerials on them, also most of the time they have the aerial piece off it and you can just see the black base. What are they for.
Thanks in advance- I know it might be a stupid question but i wanted to find out since a long time

feylya

Police radios?

drdre

feylya wrote:

Police radios?

That was a quick response, i know it would be for radio but you donot need 3-4 aerials for that do you. Also what other systems are in these cars. Are their any high tech systems apart from registeration plate reader.

Seth Brundle

1. standard radio
2. garda radio
3. carphone hotline to nearest spar

maidhc

kbannon wrote:

3. carphone hotline to nearest spar

No 4. must then be out of hours emergencies: a direct link to the 24hr tesco.

Wishbone Ash

drdre wrote:

Just out of curiosity,
Why do undercover cars have 3-4 aerials on them, also most of the time they have the aerial piece off it and you can just see the black base. What are they for.
Thanks in advance- I know it might be a stupid question but i wanted to find out since a long time

I think you may be confusing unmarked Garda vehicles with undercover vehicles. Undercover vehicles generally do not have 'tell-tale' antennae.

An unmarked (or marked) Garda car usually has 3 antennae:

1. Standard FM radio.

2. VHF (very high frequency) antenna for communicating with local station/district and for communicating via the national frequency.

3. UHF (ultra high frequency) for communicating on a control channel eg. Dublin North Control or the Garda Traffic Channel.

Our man in Havana

Is there not another for those vehicle tracking yokes that some expensive cars have?

drdre

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I think you may be confusing unmarked Garda vehicles with undercover vehicles. Undercover vehicles generally do not have 'tell-tale' antennae.

An unmarked (or marked) Garda car usually has 3 antennae:

1. Standard FM radio.

2. VHF (very high frequency) antenna for communicating with local station/district and for communicating via the national frequency.

3. UHF (ultra high frequency) for communicating on a control channel eg. Dublin North Control or the Garda Traffic Channel.

I meant the undecover garda vehicles.

5500

Wishbone Ash wrote:

1. Standard FM radio.

Do Garda cars have fm radios/cd players?
Thats one ive always actually wondered about

Eoin

drdre wrote:

I meant the undecover garda vehicles.

If it's an undercover car, then how do you know you've seen one?

Tipsy Mac

Bond-007 wrote:

Is there not another for those vehicle tracking yokes that some expensive cars have?

This is Ireland your talking about, they don't even have secure radios

Wossack

Bond-007 wrote:

Is there not another for those vehicle tracking yokes that some expensive cars have?

Saw them use that system on one of those English traffic police shows. Its a seperate unit, bout the size of a laptop with 4 of its own aerials, one at each corner. When I saw them use it, they had it in the boot at the time, they attached it to the roof using magnets. It then relayed to another box inside the car, that displayed direction and strength of signal. Think they found the car within an hour.

Pretty nifty system, and I'd def consider one if I owned a car worthy of it

Turner

If gardai are going under cover they do not use unmarked patrol cars.

They use and drive busses, taxis, delivery trucks, bin lorries, family cars, ride on lawn mowers, motorbikes, hearses...... anything you can think of.

You will not notice them.


Aeriels are as somebody already said.

car to other cars and bases.
car to garda control.
standard aeriel

rondeco

eireal wrote:

Do Garda cars have fm radios/cd players?
Thats one ive always actually wondered about

Alot of the time they are taken out of the car and all thats left is a big hole in the dash.

Seth Brundle

Chief--- wrote:

Aeriels are as somebody already said.

car to other cars and bases.
car to garda control.
standard aeriel

Im confused. Does this mean that the Spar aeriel is hidden?

subway

spar issue a mobile to all garda units these days.
gardai are specially trained in hi-speed use of those credit vending machines

JohnCleary

eireal wrote:

Do Garda cars have fm radios/cd players?
Thats one ive always actually wondered about

No, they're removed

G Luxel

The undercover cars are D regd, but Ive seen one on a different reg. eg
90 WD 56789. 5 digits for a county which only has at most 4 digits. There used to be an aerial at the rear left panel of any car but the actual antenna was facing down towards the road....

Seth Brundle

There have been claims on here that the gardai use cars from various counties including the Norther Counties!

C_Breeze

kbannon wrote:

There have been claims on here that the gardai use cars from various counties including the Norther Counties!

My dad told me that he once seen a silver 3 series coupé on NI plates flying down the hard shoulder with two lads in with blue flashing sirens.

And ffs people .......
Undercover = A guard drivin around in an X5 trying to sell you drugs in order to bust yo ass assuming your a well known drug dealer!

Unmarked = A fat guard driving around in a batter navy mondeo without hubcaps and about 20 aerials on it!

FX Meister

C_Breeze wrote:

And ffs people .......
Undercover = A guard drivin around in an X5 trying to sell you drugs in order to bust yo ass assuming your a well known drug dealer!

Are you saying that if you are a known drug dealer and a BMW X5 pulls up beside you and offers to sell you drugs you are going to buy off them? You've been watching too much TV dude. FACT

Spitfire666

you will never notice an UNDERCOVER car, undercover cars dont even have reg numbers that match the make of car its on sometimes. UNMARKED cars on the other hand are the ones with ariels the same as with marked cars. and not all cars get the fm/cd radio taken out. newer cars keep them in.

subway

Spitfire666 wrote:

undercover cars dont even have reg numbers that match the make of car its on sometimes.

thats a bit retarded considering anyone can check that stuff for free on the net.
surely they would be samrter than that?

Spitfire666

subway wrote:

thats a bit retarded considering anyone can check that stuff for free on the net.
surely they would be samrter than that?

It rarely happens. itd be on something like a car/van and it might have a old reg off a escort or something. not something you would be checking online anyway.

cujimmy

cant comment on irish police but stratclydes finest (Glasgow police) can be recognised by
a) high performance cars, always spotless and well maintained with a total absence of dealers window or reg plate stickers
b)Front and Rear Strobes
c) Headlight Flasher
d) Siren
e) VASCAR Unit
f) Radio both VHF and UHF
G) Tracker Roof Aerials
h) 2 rear view mirrors
I) always driver and passenger

Spitfire666

surely thats an UNMARKED car your talking about and not an UNDERCOVER car?

MrPudding

Looks like. People do not seem to be able to reaslise that unmarked and undercover are two different things.

MrP

drdre

MrPudding wrote:

Looks like. People do not seem to be able to reaslise that unmarked and undercover are two different things.

MrP

whats the difference?

MrPudding

drdre wrote:

whats the difference?

An unmarked car is simply a car used for normal duties that that does not have the police paint job. Blends in better than marked cars.

Undercover cars are used in undercover operations and will have no features that will indentify them as police vehicles.

MrP

Spitfire666

exactly, its the same as plain clothes gardai, they are not undercover, just not in uniform.

The tax man

Me thinks G Luxel won't even see the undercover SIGPO car coming.

What the hell is up with your sig:eek: :eek: it's a wee bit small.:D

Move along nothing else to see here....

subway

Spitfire666 wrote:

It rarely happens. itd be on something like a car/van and it might have a old reg off a escort or something. not something you would be checking online anyway.

i have no intention of ever checking a reg of a car i amnt buying
what i meant was, it seems unusual to have something like the wrong vehicle plate attached to a car.
i think the main reason to change the plates is that if someone does check up on them they dont show up as gov. owned etc
if the plates for a beemer showed up as a transit when checked then surely alarm bells will be ringing for whatever crim. is checking them?

i dont know what garda undercover duty entails but i presume, probably wrongly, that its mostly surveillance and infiltration of gangs.
i hope that the criminals that tax payer money is being spent on in the above way are smart enough to notice a vehicle based surveillance unit and check out any new "recruits" enough to make sure that they arent obviously gardai.

btw, i would rather they were stupid enough to miss all of the above, but then i would hope that the gardai would have a little less trouble actually catching them....

Spitfire666

subway wrote:

i have no intention of ever checking a reg of a car i amnt buying
what i meant was, it seems unusual to have something like the wrong vehicle plate attached to a car.
i think the main reason to change the plates is that if someone does check up on them they dont show up as gov. owned etc
if the plates for a beemer showed up as a transit when checked then surely alarm bells will be ringing for whatever crim. is checking them?

i dont know what garda undercover duty entails but i presume, probably wrongly, that its mostly surveillance and infiltration of gangs.
i hope that the criminals that tax payer money is being spent on in the above way are smart enough to notice a vehicle based surveillance unit and check out any new "recruits" enough to make sure that they arent obviously gardai.

btw, i would rather they were stupid enough to miss all of the above, but then i would hope that the gardai would have a little less trouble actually catching them....

it wouldnt happen like that. a car with false plates is gonna be only for sitting in for surveillance in areas openly public where the surveillance van isnt gonna be noticed as it would just look like a brikkie or tiler or painter or whatever.

Turner

subway wrote:

i have no intention of ever checking a reg of a car i amnt buying
what i meant was, it seems unusual to have something like the wrong vehicle plate attached to a car.
i think the main reason to change the plates is that if someone does check up on them they dont show up as gov. owned etc
if the plates for a beemer showed up as a transit when checked then surely alarm bells will be ringing for whatever crim. is checking them?

i dont know what garda undercover duty entails but i presume, probably wrongly, that its mostly surveillance and infiltration of gangs.
i hope that the criminals that tax payer money is being spent on in the above way are smart enough to notice a vehicle based surveillance unit and check out any new "recruits" enough to make sure that they arent obviously gardai.

btw, i would rather they were stupid enough to miss all of the above, but then i would hope that the gardai would have a little less trouble actually catching them....

:rolleyes:

If the gardai are undercover, believe me when i say that you or the criminals and even other gardai in the same city wont even know about it.

joebhoy1916

MrPudding wrote:

Undercover cars are used in undercover operations and will have no features that will indentify them as police vehicles.

MrP

What about them big 3 aerials on top of the unmarks?

Guy:Incognito

joebhoy1916 wrote:

What about them big 3 aerials on top of the unmarks?

are you taking the piss?

biko

MrPudding wrote:

An unmarked car is simply a car used for normal duties that that does not have the police paint job. Blends in better than marked cars.

Undercover cars are used in undercover operations and will have no features that will indentify them as police vehicles.

MrP

joebhoy1916 wrote:

What about them big 3 aerials on top of the unmarks?

MrPudding wrote:

An unmarked car is simply a car used for normal duties that that does not have the police paint job. Blends in better than marked cars.

Undercover cars are used in undercover operations and will have no features that will indentify them as police vehicles.

MrP

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Spitfire666

biko wrote:

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pmsl

cast_iron

G Luxel wrote:

The undercover cars are D regd, but Ive seen one on a different reg. eg
90 WD 56789. 5 digits for a county which only has at most 4 digits. There used to be an aerial at the rear left panel of any car but the actual antenna was facing down towards the road....

That sounds like a crock on nonsense to me.

Spitfire666

it is. they come in all sorts of reg's. and YOU WILL NOT TELL AN UNDERCOVER CAR IF YOU SEE ONE.

deman

I'm finding this thread absolutely hilarious. XD

PPL! Please read before posting stupid comments!

Three aerials......... Ha!

G Luxel

cast_iron wrote:

That sounds like a crock on nonsense to me.

what is non sense about what i wrote? Are you saying Im a liar? For obvious reasons I did not quote the number plate I saw but I gave an example. My point being that an unmarked garda car is not always a D reg. In this case the car had 5 digits which I thought looked rather odd. Another example would be 98 S0 846984.

walt0r

An undercover car is undercover for a reason. It will have absolutely no distinguishing features whatsoever.

Seth Brundle

I can't believe that this is still going on!
For those not sure of undercover - which car in the following pic is an undercover police car?

Our man in Havana

Very good point kbannon

deman

G Luxel wrote:

The undercover cars are D regd, but Ive seen one on a different reg. eg
90 WD 56789. 5 digits for a county which only has at most 4 digits. There used to be an aerial at the rear left panel of any car but the actual antenna was facing down towards the road....

G Luxel wrote:

what is non sense about what i wrote? Are you saying Im a liar? For obvious reasons I did not quote the number plate I saw but I gave an example. My point being that an unmarked garda car is not always a D reg. In this case the car had 5 digits which I thought looked rather odd. Another example would be 98 S0 846984.

Make up your mind. Are you talking about undercover cars or unmarked cars?

antodeco

This is an UN-MARKED garda bike:



(actually the one behind this bike is undercover! )

This is an UNDERCOVER garda bike:

btowner

No garda cars do not have a number plate readers cause that's even advanced for the English police. In other words it will probably be 5 years before the Gardai use them.

Esel

Banned for digging up an old thread.