Rude reply to Soccer Access Request

redsox

Dear Boards

I am very annoyed with the rude response I got to my Soccer Access Request. Your guy, PSI, did not need to be so rude in his reply to me. I seemed to have missed the part in the Soccer Charter about having to have greater than 50 posts. His reply was "read the charter and see what you ignored". You can't talk to the people like that. I'm an intelligent adult, he makes me sound like I'm illiterate.
I hope he enjoys his job, putting other people down, when his actual job role is to stop OTHER people putting each other down in the soccer forum itself, which is more appropriate.
Believe me, I won't be applying to get into the Soccer Forum again, I'll look elsewhere.
A very DISSATISFIED customer.

Ruu_Old

His reply says on my screen anyway "Read them again - see which part you ignored/missed."

In fairness to your good self, I think you are making a bit too much of this to be very honest.

edit: How are you a customer? This is a privately owned website, not Supervalue or Dunne Stores.

Just My View

I recently applied for access to the Soccer Forum too and was the turned down on the grounds that I wasn't a member for 2 months. Do you know what? The mod was right. I thought I had joined up earlier in the month than I actually had, so I wasn't a member for the requisite 2 months. I PMed the mod concerned and apologised and accepted the mandatory 1 month ban on re-applying. He said NP just re-apply when your 2 months is up and no ban applied. Probably because I was reasonable. Because he was reasonable I will voluntarily wait a month before applying. I will reapply on 12th Dec.

There is a lesson here, read the rules, the mods are on the ball ( bad pun but what the hell). Don't be a whining asshole. Play the whistle.

Karl Hungus

redsox wrote:

You can't talk to the people like that.

Yes you can.

The Sweeper

Dear Boards

Please direct me to the part of the site where I buy access to the soccer forum and can therefore consider myself a customer.

Chrstxbye.

GuanYin

At the very top of the forum there is a post thats says clearly:

Soccer Requests Charter & Mechanism - Read this or you WILL NOT GET ACCESS TO SOCCER

It states, and I quote:

Soccer Access Charter wrote:

Users must read the soccer charter - here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2054846039

Once a user has read the soccer charter they can post a request in this forum stating that they have read and will comply to the rules of the soccer forum and would like to join the forum.

Furthermore I go on to say:

psi wrote:

IMPORTANT!

In order to gain access, you must read both the rules above AND the soccer forum charter rules which are linked.

Anyone applying for soccer forum access who does not meet the criteria required will be automatically denied access.

The Soccer Charter States:

Soccer Charter wrote:

New Users.

New users will have to apply to gain access to the board in a sub forum under the soccer forum. They will have to be members of boards.ie for 2 months.

You will now also require at least 50 posts in addition to being a boards member for 2 months.

Your post was:

redsox (with 9 posts) wrote:

Hi
Please can I have access to the soccer forum?
I'm a registered user for more than 2 months, and I have read the Soccer Charter.

Now apart from the fact you missed agreeing to comply with the soccer forum charter haven't been a member for 2 months as I type this AND don't have 50 posts, you also see that I specifically state that you will automatically be denied access if you miss the criteria.

So all you had to do was read the charter and do what it says. But you didn't and posted anyway. So effectively you wasted my time. You wasted the time it took me to open your post, read it, check you were eligible and reply.

My time is precious and today alone I had 9 applicants to soccer, or which 4 managed to apply correctly - so 5 posters wasted my time.

I wasn't rude in that post, I was abrupt but if I'm being rude here, I think I'm entitled to be, seeing as you wasted my time and then had the gall to complain about it.

GuanYin

Oh and in case anyone wonders - no I didn't miss putting the 50 post rule in the soccer access request charter. I think its a fairly good indicator of whether the applicant actually has read the charter or is just saying so.

Talliesin

redsox wrote:

A very DISSATISFIED customer.

I'm so upset to hear that that I have funded your account with double what you pay to use boards.ie out of my own personal finances.

GuanYin

Talliesin wrote:

I'm so upset to hear that that I have funded your account with double what you pay to use boards.ie out of my own personal finances.

I can't let you do that. I'll take it out of the wages boards pays me to mod.

Sparky

Where's my VAT invoice?

amp

I R teh ILITARIT! GIV ME AXES!

county

amp wrote:

I R teh ILITARIT! GIV ME AXES!

the voice of reason has spoken





*in the written word*:rolleyes:

Beruthiel

redsox wrote:

A very DISSATISFIED customer.

LOL!

Until you actually pay for the privilege of using this site, you're not a customer redsox, you're a guest

super_furry

Some just give him a refund and he can be on his way.

BuffyBot

redsox wrote:

Dear Boards

I am very annoyed with the rude response I got to my Soccer Access Request. Your guy, PSI, did not need to be so rude in his reply to me. I seemed to have missed the part in the Soccer Charter about having to have greater than 50 posts. His reply was "read the charter and see what you ignored". You can't talk to the people like that. I'm an intelligent adult, he makes me sound like I'm illiterate.
I hope he enjoys his job, putting other people down, when his actual job role is to stop OTHER people putting each other down in the soccer forum itself, which is more appropriate.
Believe me, I won't be applying to get into the Soccer Forum again, I'll look elsewhere.
A very DISSATISFIED customer.

Dear Customer,

ermm..yeah. That's nice. Have 100 Superclub points on us.

Boards.ie

6th

I'm a subscriber but I am definately not a customer. My subcription is a donation towards the upkeep of the site.

r3nu4l

6th wrote:

I'm a subscriber but I am definately not a customer. My subcription is a donation towards the upkeep of the site.

QFT. [Sings]That's just the way it is, some things will never change[/Sings]

In fairness OP, when I read your post I thought that Psi had posted something outrageous, not (as pointed out by Ruu) "Read them again - see which part you ignored/missed".

That seems like a very reasonable request from the forum mod, not rude as such.

Oh, and seeing as how you seem to be a little sensitive, try not to take many of the feedback replies too seriously, honestly, you should read some of the responses I got to the 'Mod awards?' idea or worse some of the responses to other 'whiner-style' threads

CuLT

Really psi, you need to add a lot more winks, smileys and xXxXx to your posts.

xXx xXx
~ C u L T ~

redsox

Sorry PSI but I'm actually a member since Sep 2005, so that's a Year and 2 months in my opinion, but perhaps you're too stupid to read too! Or maybe the Maths isn't so good.

Secondly, I never realised that users couldn't be classified as customers. If all of us weren't using the website you'd have no job PSI, so in my opinion you're in customer service.

Finally, thanks for all your replies. Some were actually quite funny. It's mad to think that some people have so much time to waste.

r3nu4l

redsox wrote:

Sorry PSI but I'm actually a member since Sep 2005, so that's a Year and 2 months in my opinion, but perhaps you're too stupid to read too! Or maybe the Maths isn't so good.

Secondly, I never realised that users couldn't be classified as customers. If all of us weren't using the website you'd have no job PSI, so in my opinion you're in customer service.

Finally, thanks for all your replies. Some were actually quite funny. It's mad to think that some people have so much time to waste.

LOL erm, redsox, I think you are under false impressions here Mods are not employed by boards.ie nor are they paid...unless they are Cmods or Admins of course in which case they get paid €75-90k a year, an Audi A4 and two all expenses paid holidays in the boards.ie villa in the Bahamas...* I believe AH mods are a special case (in many ways) and get free pychiatric health care and a one week stay at an Irish country retreat house of their choice.





*may or may not be true

6th

redsox wrote:

Sorry PSI but I'm actually a member since Sep 2005, so that's a Year and 2 months in my opinion, but perhaps you're too stupid to read too! Or maybe the Maths isn't so good.

Secondly, I never realised that users couldn't be classified as customers. If all of us weren't using the website you'd have no job PSI, so in my opinion you're in customer service.

Finally, thanks for all your replies. Some were actually quite funny. It's mad to think that some people have so much time to waste.

But you dont have 50+ posts? And whats with the personal abuse?

And one last thing, being a mod isnt a job. People like Psi do it volunterily (and very well in Psi's case) and put up with illiterate, simpletons, who get angry at the online world because they lead sad little lives.

redsox

so, what exactly are mods? just people who have nothing better to do with their time?
in this world, there's no such thing as working for free.
especially in ireland.

6th

Well then you know fúck all about a system you are whinging about.

aidan_walsh

so, what exactly are mods?

http://wiki.boards.ie/wiki/Moderator Warning: Contains humour, not to be taken too literally. May require some between-the-lines reading.

there's no such thing as working for free.

Volunteerism?

especially in ireland.

Nope.

CuLT

I am a moderator for the appreciation from users like yourself.

[WARNING: Your brain requires Sarcasm 1.07 to interpret this post correctly]

r3nu4l

Oh redsox, draw a line under this now.

Leave it alone, walk away from the keyboard for a while, calm down, read other posts and threads and post some replies

You will learn a bit more about boards.ie by reading around other posts and threads etc.

Edit: Cult, is Sarcasm 1.07 available for Windows XP? I downloaded the intarweb but couldn't find it?

CuLT

I also wrote the original Moderator definition article, and have added an extra paragraph just for this occasion.

























~ C u L T ~

GuanYin

redsox wrote:

Sorry PSI but I'm actually a member since Sep 2005, so that's a Year and 2 months in my opinion, but perhaps you're too stupid to read too! Or maybe the Maths isn't so good..

Actually, you're right. My apologies so, its not the first time I didn't read that right.

Now you only failed to comply with 2 criteria for applying - but you still wasted my time and you're still banned from reapplying for 2 months.

ecksor

redsox wrote:

Sorry PSI but I'm actually a member since Sep 2005, so that's a Year and 2 months in my opinion, but perhaps you're too stupid to read too! Or maybe the Maths isn't so good.

psi's maths isn't very good at all, but you still don't have enough posts to qualify. What is your case here exactly?

Secondly, I never realised that users couldn't be classified as customers. If all of us weren't using the website you'd have no job PSI, so in my opinion you're in customer service.

In my opinion you have a habit of not knowing what the hell is going on.

Finally, thanks for all your replies. Some were actually quite funny. It's mad to think that some people have so much time to waste.

Ironically, as you were informed, some people have better things to be doing than holding your hand because you didn't follow the charter correctly.

GuanYin

ecksor wrote:

psi's maths isn't very good at all

*ahem* I'll have you know my math is fairly damn good - I have a mental block in accepting it is 2006 and often think it is 2005 though.

I think it might be to do with not remembering anything about last New Years Eve.....

Sparky

redsox wrote:

in this world, there's no such thing as working for free.
especially in ireland.

You may want to talk to the many people who volunteer for charity organizations around Ireland.

We are not employed by boards, if so there would only be a handful of us, because I don't think boards makes enough money to pay for 400+ employees.

99% of bulletin board sites around the globe operate on the same system of moderators and admins. Nobody is employed on these bulletin board sites, unless they are an employee of the website who offers support for their service via a bulletin board.

GuanYin

redsox wrote:

If all of us weren't using the website you'd have no job PSI, so in my opinion you're in customer service.

Haha, I didn't notice this the first time.

I'm 100% certain that if everyone else using this site died tomorrow, I'd still have a very secure job.

If you all died of some horrible disease, I'd probably get a big raise.

Rollo Tamasi

psi wrote:

Now you only failed to comply with 2 criteria for applying - but you still wasted my time and you're still banned from reapplying for 2 months.

what's the logic behind this 2 month ban?

GuanYin

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

what's the logic behind this 2 month ban?

Because about 50% of people applying to soccer, haven't actually bothered to read the big sticky telling them how to apply, never mind the actual soccer charter, which is a pre-requisit for forum access.

This means I get maybe 20 or more posts a week which are just a waste of our time simply because users were to lazy to do a simple thing. So if someone comes in and posts for access without bothering to read the charters they don't get access and I won't even look at their application for 2 months.

tbh

redsox wrote:

so, what exactly are mods? just people who have nothing better to do with their time?
in this world, there's no such thing as working for free.
especially in ireland.

If you take the red pill and walk away, we'll all wake up in the morning having forgotten that this thread ever existed.

If you take the blue pill, you acquire a reputation that will stick to you like the carcass of a dead whale for the rest of your - presumably short - stay here at boards.ie.

Wertz

I tried applying to the soccer forum once.

Good times.

Thrill

Why are there prerequisities to joining the soccer forum?

Nevyn

To stop spammy idiots from signing up to post nasty comments about soccer teams and clubs and thier supporters.

Talliesin

Because the soccer forum turned into a stupid my-team-is-better-than-you ****storm that made actually talking about soccer and hence access was limited.

This rule is one that constantly confuses or bemuses newer members but makes perfect sense in the minds of those who remember the way it was before.

People like the OP not being able to even manage to try to apply for access without making an ass of himself only goes to show that the rule is probably still having a positive effect.

CuLT

thrill wrote:

Why are there prerequisities to joining the soccer forum?

Have a look at the "forums forum" thread here (in Feedback) to see a three page reason why there are access requests.

smashey

r3nu4l wrote:

LOL erm, redsox, I think you are under false impressions here Mods are not employed by boards.ie nor are they paid...unless they are Cmods or Admins of course in which case they get paid €75-90k a year, an Audi A4 and two all expenses paid holidays in the boards.ie villa in the Bahamas...* I believe AH mods are a special case (in many ways) and get free pychiatric health care and a one week stay at an Irish country retreat house of their choice.

You forgot to mention the welcome party involving hookers and coke.:D

OP, get over it. The soccer forum is one of the most difficult to mod and the mods already have their hands full without dealing with people pretending they have read the charter.

Thrill

Talliesin wrote:

Because the soccer forum turned into a stupid my-team-is-better-than-you ****storm that made actually talking about soccer and hence access was limited.

This rule is one that constantly confuses or bemuses newer members but makes perfect sense in the minds of those who remember the way it was before.

People like the OP not being able to even manage to try to apply for access without making an ass of himself only goes to show that the rule is probably still having a positive effect.

Thanks for the info. Just curious.
My question was in no way meant as agreeing with the OP who, imo, is lucky to only be getting a two month ban on reapplying.

Talliesin

I for one didn't read your question as that.

As I've said, it is a rule that confuses or bemuses newer members, and that's understandable as it doesn't make much sense if you don't know the history, though to those that actually experienced the history it can seem obvious that this is how it should be done.

GuanYin

thrill wrote:

Why are there prerequisities to joining the soccer forum?

Because you touch yourself at night.

Cult wrote:

Have a look at the "forums forum" thread here (in Feedback) to see a three page reason why there are access requests.

Jesus!!! I think I'm going to go make soccer access stricter!!!

bohsman

Ecksor wont be getting into the soccer forum anytime soon then.

amp

bohsman wrote:

Ecksor wont be getting into the soccer forum anytime soon then.

What are you doing here? Get back to the poker forum!

Heisenberg.

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