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Maths Integration Problem

  • 26-11-2006 07:10PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭


    Any help appreciated!

    It's from the 1997 Higher Level Exam.

    Paper 1, Question 8, Part (c):

    Calculate the value of
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    I know it involves substitution and letting u = √t, but it's not working out for me!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭PeterMC


    Take the Root T outside the bracket so its root t(root t + 1). Substitute in then :) ... I think ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    Sound man, I'll give it a go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    I don't ever remember doing an integral like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    I don't ever remember doing an integral like this.
    I remember it. That is to say I remember not being able to do it. 4 years of physics later and you'd think I'd have an easier time? Well.. I did but it's still tricky if you're out of practice.

    OP did you get it out? The answer I got is attached. I substituted for root(t) + 1. Though I'm 7 months out of practice with calculus so there's a high possibility I made a blunder somewhere

    Edit: Just noticed OP is banned. Oh well...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    I got almost that answer except I had 1/2(ln_) as opposed to 2ln_


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭RefulgentGnomon


    Its 2ln[(sqrt3 + 1)/(1/sqrt3 + 1 )

    which

    = 2ln [(sqrt3 +1)]/[(sqrt3 + 1)/sqrt3]

    = 2ln [sqrt3 + 1]*[(sqrt3)/(sqrt3 + 1)]

    (sqrt3 + 1) terms cancel


    2ln(sqrt3)

    = ln (sqrt3)^2

    =ln3


    ! (was going to put that exclamation mark up further but maybe it would have looked like ln(3 factorial)...;) )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    int(1/(t+√t) = int(1/(√t(√t+1)

    u = √t

    Getting the integration constants for u:
    u=√(3) and √(1/3)


    du = dt/2√t
    2du = dt/√t

    (2)int(1/(u+1))=[2(ln(u+1))]

    [2(ln(√3+1) - ln(1/√3 + 1))]
    =2(ln((√3+1)/(1/√3 + 1)))
    =2(ln((√3+1)/((1+√3)/√3)))
    =2(ln(1/(1/√3)))
    =2(ln(√3))
    =ln(√3)^2
    =ln3


    Yeah, so everyone was right on this thread.


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