PLAYSTATION 3--anyone here play it

ciano1

just wondering if anyone here has been lucky 2 play a ps3 yet
if yes, does it live up to the hype ????

ZygOte

mine just arrived 10mins ago!

will let you know , got COD3 and resitance fall of man

projectmayhem

played it a while ago, and ranted on these very forums about it. the machine itself does quite live up to the hype, but the games thus far don't. they're good games, don't get me wrong... but nothing so compelling that you'll be incredibly satisfied with your €600 purchase

paul moore

Sorry lads,but are these USA machines ???? Will they play the games here when its released ????
I heard its region free but i was thinking of sony in the past with ntsc & pal

ZygOte

mine is a USA model. got it yesterday. Its region free but apparently this will be at the discression of the game makers.

the pwer supply is universal so no need for a convertor even tho its labeled as 120Volts. i fully researched this before connecting it to the mains here. the power supply is integrated so just your standard kettle power lead type connector into the back and your away.

got a second wireless controller from japan no issues at all using it even tho there is an american and japanese version advertised around the web.

came with two games COD3 and resistance fall of man.
i have a 360 aswell and have tried to see a difference between COD on the 360 and PS3 but so far they look identical to me. the only difference is with the controller in that the controllers are motion sensitive so you can melee attack or shack of an enemy but shaking the controller from left to right.

resistance , so far is not all that impressive. its like COD with aliens instead of germans. lovely graphics and sound but not a riviting play.

im hooked up to a philips 42' plasma HD. it doesnt to 1080p only 720p or 1080i. the tv HD port is DVI so i picked up a HDMI to DVI cable in Peats for €39 and it works sweet.

initially i had to updates the firmware from 1.00 to 1.10 yesterday and now today there was another update to 1.11.

the sony store (microsoft marketplace equivilant) is crap so far very few features just a few game demos and video clips.

Its all very reminisent of the XBOX marketplace back when it first launched and i suspect there will be many many updates to come.

first impressions overall :

very nice console with bags of potential but it is going to be a while before we see it.

Ri_Nollaig

did you get it from ebay ? how much did it actually set you back ?

abetarrush

I think its like the PSP

region free game-wise but not with Films

also, im sure therell be lots of NTSC/PAL clashin

ZygOte

Ri_Nollaig wrote:

did you get it from ebay ? how much did it actually set you back ?

yup got it on ebay 60gb model, paid €800 for the console and two games, which isnt really all that bad if the console is going to cost 500-600 when it arrives here in march and assuming games will have a similar price structure to the xbox360.

shipping cos me another €110 via ups. but watch out as they will try and do you for import duty! i think they wanted another 150 in tax but i was delivering it to my company address so managed to fob them off

so i did pay a fair whack for it all in all but nowhere near some of the crazy prices that people have them on ebay for. i think its worth it for a 4 month head start

as for ntsc/pal issues as long as your tv supports NTSC your fine, i havent seen a pal only tv in a long long time, they may still be out there tho

Ri_Nollaig

ZygOte wrote:

yup got it on ebay 60gb model, paid €800 for the console and two games ... shipping cos me another €110 via ups ...

thats not bad, i knew those crazy prices on ebay are just a joke, most have zero bids...

Ciaran500

Phantom!

ZygOte

IMO the 360 is better but its had a years head start on the ps3, this time last year the xbox was in the same boat as the ps3 is now, lack of games and limited online content. time will tell.

skywalker

projectmayhem wrote:

played it a while ago, and ranted on these very forums about it. the machine itself does quite live up to the hype, but the games thus far don't. they're good games, don't get me wrong... but nothing so compelling that you'll be incredibly satisfied with your €600 purchase

Without wanting to start a war, how do you qualify the machine living up to the hype if the games dont? What else was mind blowing about it?

Slippin Jimmy

Where did people get these? On ebay? And are they region free consoles?

shortys94

Im not sure whether this matters but the first batch of PS3 games look identical or slightly better graphically than current 360 games. Is this a sign that as time goes on PS3 games will look far superior than 360 games as if they look identical to the 360 now, just give it time eh?

Ive never had an xbox before, but I find myself wanting to buy a 360, but I think its just impatience. Will the 360 fall behind graphically as I may buy the 360 but wanted to know what to expect in relation to ps3. Ive never had an xbox.

Retr0gamer

shortys94 wrote:

Im not sure whether this matters but the first batch of PS3 games look identical or slightly better graphically than current 360 games. Is this a sign that as time goes on PS3 games will look far superior than 360 games as if they look identical to the 360 now, just give it time eh?

Ive never had an xbox before, but I find myself wanting to buy a 360, but I think its just impatience. Will the 360 fall behind graphically as I may buy the 360 but wanted to know what to expect in relation to ps3. Ive never had an xbox.

There actually isn't any difference between them. Gears of War looks better than anythng out at the moment. Resistance looks nice but runs at a shoddy framerate (although a constant one). I'd goso far as t say that there really isn't any difference between the 360 and PS3 at either launch.

Don't know why you are bothered about graphics you should be concerned about the games and the xbox360 has the best games out and lots of potential in the line up while the PS3 doesn't have much until probably next year. If it was all about graphics the DS wouldn't be kicking the PSP's ass in terms of games and sales.

Most developers say that there is very little performance difference between the two consoles despite Sony's BS.

shortys94

Thanks retrogamer, but would you recommend getting the wii and waiting for ps3 or just get the 360?

mcgarnicle

shortys94 wrote:

Thanks retrogamer, but would you recommend getting the wii and waiting for ps3 or just get the 360?

If you are considering all three but don't want to fork out for them all, why not just get a 360 and a Wii for the same price as a PS3.

projectmayhem

skywalker wrote:

Without wanting to start a war, how do you qualify the machine living up to the hype if the games dont? What else was mind blowing about it?

just the general experience. i was more excited to play it then the 360 (which i got at launch), and the experience with the main menu and general features just feels a lot more solid IMO. the machine is also a lot quieter then any machine i've ever used before. it also is teh sex in terms of design. it does dominate a room.

mcgarnicle

projectmayhem wrote:

just the general experience. i was more excited to play it then the 360 (which i got at launch), and the experience with the main menu and general features just feels a lot more solid IMO. the machine is also a lot quieter then any machine i've ever used before. it also is teh sex in terms of design. it does dominate a room.

How did the joypad feel? I've read reports that it's a bit on the light side, what did you make of it?

projectmayhem

mcgarnicle wrote:

How did the joypad feel? I've read reports that it's a bit on the light side, what did you make of it?

noticably lighter... very noticable. the lack of rumble is slightly odd when playing a game like motorstorm, but you forget about it quick enough. only played quick tech demo stuff to test the sixaxis stuff, but it was pretty interesting, and more comfy then the Wii... but none of the games will be designed for that mode, it'll be a nice quirky addition to games (snapping necks in MGS4, for example), though i know sony are working on games that only use it for their online service

ZygOte

projectmayhem wrote:

noticably lighter... very noticable. the lack of rumble is slightly odd when playing a game like motorstorm, but you forget about it quick enough. only played quick tech demo stuff to test the sixaxis stuff, but it was pretty interesting, and more comfy then the Wii... but none of the games will be designed for that mode, it'll be a nice quirky addition to games (snapping necks in MGS4, for example), though i know sony are working on games that only use it for their online service

agreed, the controller at first is noticibly light and initally feels almost flimsy, but you soon get used to it and its is very sturdy, L2 and R2 buttons are far more "spongy" almost i think than the original and are quite satisfying to use.

console is lovely and quiet almost silent and oh yes it is a dominating looking console, all black and shiny. but this is nothing to judge a machine by in the overall sense. the xbox360 is ugly and sounds like a hurricane trapped in a fridge by comparison, but have far better games lineup and features etc.

again it is far to early for anyone to make a fair comparison i think. im just looking forward to getting a wii for the moment

skywalker

projectmayhem wrote:

just the general experience. i was more excited to play it then the 360 (which i got at launch), and the experience with the main menu and general features just feels a lot more solid IMO. the machine is also a lot quieter then any machine i've ever used before. it also is teh sex in terms of design. it does dominate a room.

Im not trying to take away from your point of view here or anything, but if thats the best thing you can say about the machine then its seriously lacking.

ciano1

the 2 consoles are nearly identical in specs but the ps3 game linup and the web browser just edges it in front......do the 360 wireless controllers rumble ??

projectmayhem

ciano1 wrote:

the 2 consoles are nearly identical in specs but the ps3 game linup and the web browser just edges it in front......do the 360 wireless controllers rumble ??

the machines are very different in fact. it wont be obvious for another 2 or 3 years though. but you'll see PS3 games getting a slight edge by then. it wont be massive, but it'll be there. like the difference between xbox and ps2.

and yes, the 360 controllers rumble

shortys94

I was tempted by 360, but after I thought about it, youre getting alot fro the price of the PS3, and by the time you bought a wireless adaptor and hd dvd add on for 360 youve spent more than for a PS3

monument

projectmayhem wrote:

it does dominate a room.

“Look – wow – you’ve got a mini bbq under your telly”

zt-OctaviaN

Hey there and well wear!

Can ye tell us a bit about the interface?
What codec playback does it support?
Have any of you used it to play any 1080p material?
what came with it in the box?
etc etc

cheers
n

Ciaran500

shortys94 wrote:

I was tempted by 360, but after I thought about it, youre getting alot fro the price of the PS3, and by the time you bought a wireless adaptor and hd dvd add on for 360 youve spent more than for a PS3

You'd do amazingly well to get a PS3 + 6 games + second controller for the same price as the deals going on the 360 now.

AceCard Jones

Skywalker wrote:

Im not trying to take away from your point of view here or anything, but if thats the best thing you can say about the machine then its seriously lacking.

Seriously?What could you say about the 360 at launch?It overheats and scratches discs??And even moving away from my distinct hatred for Micro$oft, no console really made you have lots to say at launch.Not that many games out for it.None that use all the console's and joypad's features.It's always the way.
I have a feeling it will be a different case for the Wii though.
With a Legend Of Zelda game at launch! and Wii sports for all your motion sensed fun!!!

skywalker

AceCard Jones wrote:

Seriously?What could you say about the 360 at launch?

Probably a bit more than its big and shiny.

mcgarnicle

skywalker wrote:

Probably a bit more than its big and shiny.

I had a 360 at launch and when I got asked about it the best I could say was that I can turn it on and off from my bed.

Glad to hear the pads feel sturdy, despite being rather light. That was a worry for me so I'm happy now.

projectmayhem

zt-OctaviaN wrote:

Hey there and well wear!

Can ye tell us a bit about the interface?
What codec playback does it support?
Have any of you used it to play any 1080p material?
what came with it in the box?
etc etc

cheers
n

interface is the same as the PSP one. a 5 year old can use it. very easy, and looks a lot less intrusive then the 360 dashboard when you bring it up in a game...

not sure what codec playback it supports right now. i recall being told it supports everything the PSP does (as in, the latest PSP firmware), but there will be updates to that in future.

since i played it in the confines of sony, it was a 1080p set i was playing on. looks amazing, but i honestly couldn't tell you that it's better or worse then 720p (i.e. don't go spending loads on a 1080p tv for no reason)

shortys94

How do you know if your television supports 1080p, I know it supports 1080i etc

projectmayhem

shortys94 wrote:

How do you know if your television supports 1080p, I know it supports 1080i etc

chances are it doesn't. 1080p is an expensive addition to a set, and very few HD-ready sets do (when they do, they say "supports FULL HD", as a sales pitch). you'll know by the instruction manual, or the box itself

iregk

I was reading in Empire mag that the difference betweel 1080p adn 720p is not noticable to the human eye on anything under 60". Anyone know more about this? Apparently on lets say a 42" screen there aren't enough pixels to display true 1080p anyway so unless you've got a cinema screen you wont be able to see it.

steviec

iregk wrote:

I was reading in Empire mag that the difference betweel 1080p adn 720p is not noticable to the human eye on anything under 60". Anyone know more about this? Apparently on lets say a 42" screen there aren't enough pixels to display true 1080p anyway so unless you've got a cinema screen you wont be able to see it.

Depends how close you are to the tv, how sensitive you are to these things etc... They definitely can display true 1080p on a 42" screen though no problem. I'm typing this on a 15" monitor thats 720p, so if you think about it the pixels on a 1080p 42" would actually be bigger.

Of course you won't notice as much when sitting back on a couch as opposed to reading text close up on a computer, it's debatable what difference it makes. I'm happy enough with the 360 in 720p. It does seem worlds apart from standard definition.

Vyse

projectmayhem wrote:

the machines are very different in fact. it wont be obvious for another 2 or 3 years though. but you'll see PS3 games getting a slight edge by then. it wont be massive, but it'll be there. like the difference between xbox and ps2.

I don't think the difference will be as noticable as it was between the Xbox and PS2, there was a far wider gap between those consoles then there was between the XBox360 and PS3. I do think that titles exclusive to the PS3 will look nice though.

On the subject of 1080p TVs they seem to average around €4,000 to €5,000. Far too much of an investement at the moment if you ask me.

Jip

shortys94 wrote:

Im not sure whether this matters but the first batch of PS3 games look identical or slightly better graphically than current 360 games. Is this a sign that as time goes on PS3 games will look far superior than 360 games as if they look identical to the 360 now, just give it time eh?

Gamespot has just done a comparisob between the PS3 and 360 with identical games and the 360 came out best for the time being.

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?sid=6162742&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot

Ciaran500

Jip wrote:

Gamespot has just done a comparisob between the PS3 and 360 with identical games and the 360 came out best for the time being.

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?sid=6162742&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot

I don't think that will surprise anyone, the 360 is obviously a far far superior machine.

;-)

steviec

Jip wrote:

Gamespot has just done a comparisob between the PS3 and 360 with identical games and the 360 came out best for the time being.

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?sid=6162742&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot

They did the same sort of comparison last year with the 360 and the Xbox1, and found the 360 didn't look a whole lot better. Of course it didn't, multiplatform games couldn't hold a candle to the 360 exclusives even then and certainly not to games out for the machine now. The PS3 will get a lot better.

That said, in terms of graphical horsepower, the 360 is plain better than the PS3. The PS3 on the other hand has a stronger processor, much higher capacity media format, and a hard drive that the developers can rely on being there(some games already allow hard drive installs to cut down load times). It also has a motion sensing controller that may improve gameplay in some games.

Net result, multiplatform games should probably look slightly better on 360 more often than not, but both consoles should enjoy far more advanced exclusives, and the biggest advantage of the PS3's processor should be its ability to throw a lot more stuff around the screen at once, be it explosions or masses of characters at once, think Dead Rising but it should be capable of even more.

Both are very very capable machines though and at the end of the day it's all down to software. More than Microsoft vs. Sony, this will be decided by Bungee + Rare + Bizarre Creations vs. SCEI + Polyphony + Studio Liverpool etc. there's a lot of talented developers out there and both machines give them a lot of tools to create great games, I currently own a 360 and I know full well I'll end up with a PS3 sooner or later, there's way too many great developers working on it for there not to be some must have games.

McDermotX

steviec wrote:

They did the same sort of comparison last year with the 360 and the Xbox1, and found the 360 didn't look a whole lot better. Of course it didn't, multiplatform games couldn't hold a candle to the 360 exclusives even then and certainly not to games out for the machine now. The PS3 will get a lot better.

That said, in terms of graphical horsepower, the 360 is plain better than the PS3. The PS3 on the other hand has a stronger processor, much higher capacity media format, and a hard drive that the developers can rely on being there(some games already allow hard drive installs to cut down load times). It also has a motion sensing controller that may improve gameplay in some games.

Net result, multiplatform games should probably look slightly better on 360 more often than not, but both consoles should enjoy far more advanced exclusives, and the biggest advantage of the PS3's processor should be its ability to throw a lot more stuff around the screen at once, be it explosions or masses of characters at once, think Dead Rising but it should be capable of even more.

Both are very very capable machines though and at the end of the day it's all down to software. More than Microsoft vs. Sony, this will be decided by Bungee + Rare + Bizarre Creations vs. SCEI + Polyphony + Studio Liverpool etc. there's a lot of talented developers out there and both machines give them a lot of tools to create great games, I currently own a 360 and I know full well I'll end up with a PS3 sooner or later, there's way too many great developers working on it for there not to be some must have games.

Well said StevieC,
its too early to judge the PS3 on its games compared to the 360 (there was just as much crap on 360 on its launch).
On the flip side, Ridge Racer 7 is certainly more impressive than its 360 cousin, absolutely flies along at 1080p with no slowdown or stuttering. Definitely a noticable improvement over 720p mode, but obviously that will depend on the capabilities/size of your display. I'm sure a 360 version would be able to match the PS3 if it had its own RR7, but we'll never know.
Resistance is a very good game, anyone who likes Call of Duty 1-3 will almost certainly love it. It may not have the hype/graphics of Gears of War, but its a much more enjoyable game for me (felt GOW was very underwhelming) and makes GOW seem pedestrian in terms of enemy numbers, firefights etc... Defo the best game you can have on the PS3 right now. Only 720p though.
Motorstorm demo is excellent, more than a match for anything on the 360 graphically (having said that, not sure I've played a similar kind of game on the 360). Very fast, excellent physics based driving, only way the game could be improved is with a rumble pad....can't wait for the full game.
Blu-ray playback is noticably better than the 360 HD-DVD playback, silent console and better sound makes for a more enjoyable film watching experience. Newer Blu-rays are easily on a par with HD-DVD, Superman Returns is indistinguishable between the two in PQ, but audio is more much more impressive from the PS3, despite it being only a DD+ soundtrack compared to the "faked" TrueHD output from the 360 addon.
Dashboard feel of the PS3 is very slick, very professional in a minimalist kind of way, makes the 360 dashboard seem very clunky. Just my opinion, I'm sure there are others who will prefer the 360 dash over this.

Its too hard to recommend the PS3 right now purely for games playing reasons, if you want too get into the Blu-ray world and play games, then its a more than worthy purchase. Come the Irish launch, there may be more games out there that will test the 360, but considering graphics along the likes of GOW came along a year after the 360 launched, who knows what the PS3 may have in store ?

Jip

McDermotX wrote:

Well said StevieC,
its too early to judge the PS3 on its games compared to the 360 (there was just as much crap on 360 on its launch).

I agree, but the point the article was making that they're comparing like for like games, ones that have been ported over to each console with no time dedicated to improving the game on any one machine and the 360 was the winner in this situation. Sure, PS3 exclusives may be fantastic and vice versa for the 360 but at the moment games that aren't exclusive to any particular platform seem to come out, just about, on top on the 360.

CiDeRmAn

Hooray, another copy of Ridge Racer to never be played again, seriouly that a game series running out of steam, I've got them all and the material is getting a tad stretched, the last one I enjoyed was, and still is, Rage Racer on my PS, Ridge Racer 6 on the 360 just made me play Ridge Racers on my PSP, and that is a greatest hits compliation, a poor choice of game to demo your machine, especially as the 360 had PGR3 and now Test Drive Unlimited, too far more capable titles, beating the rather old hat GT 4 HD, although isn't that cancelled now?
But it is too early to judge, one can only imagine what is being prepared for the PS3 and what games will be available for the euro launch, but as yet nothing to make me want to run out and buy one.
What PS3 exclusives will there be? What of Sonys own IPs will we be gagging for? More Ratchet and Clank? More Jak and Daxter? More reheats of the aforemetioned Gran Turismo series? Or will most gamers be just buying the outputs of EA, Namco and Capcom, a vast number of which will be cross platform releases, with little to divide the 360 and PS3 in terms if graphics and gameplay, although the 360 pad does rumble, hmmm....

McDermotX

No,
like I say......I wouldn't buy the PS3 right now if all your going to do is play games on it.
It doesn't offer too much above the 360 right now, and seeing as how most of the 360 games out there are forgettable to say the least, you'll have to ask yourself if its worth owning both, considering most games will be multi-format.
Both systems will always have their exclusives......for Gears of War, there'll be MGS, for GT there'll be Forza etc etc.........It just comes down to which exclusives you'll prefer.
Personally, I didn't buy the system primarily for the games anyway, and if you're looking for real quality, you're better off booting up the latest Zelda on the Wii anyway before turning on your PS3 or 360.
Lets face it, paying 70quid or so for the latest 360 "masterpiece" is getting tiresome and I can count on one hand the number of times the 360 has been turned on in the last month, and that was only to test out the HD-DVD addon !!
I've had more gameplaying fun on the Wii over the last few days than on the 360 since launch, whether that continues after the new year remains to be seen. Unfortunately we won't always have a new Zelda to play, and it'll be down to the various software houses to use the Wii's capabilities. But as anyone who has owned a Saturn, Dreamcast, Gamecube down the years will know, there's always little gems out there to play on these so-called lesser machines

netman

iregk wrote:

I was reading in Empire mag that the difference betweel 1080p adn 720p is not noticable to the human eye on anything under 60". Anyone know more about this? Apparently on lets say a 42" screen there aren't enough pixels to display true 1080p anyway so unless you've got a cinema screen you wont be able to see it.

well, that is relative... i can see a difference between 720p and 1080p on a 19" monitor and it's very noticable. i'm speaking of my windows desktop of couse, and resolutions are very close approximations to 720p and 1080p.

if i were to move away a meter i'm pretty sure i couldn't tell the difference, but then again i couldn't read any of the text.

when you're talking about detail, and that's all there is in the resolution, it is very hard to discern it in a fast moving video, be it games or movies. if you're reading text you will notice immediately, as long as you're close enough to be able to read it.

if empire mag tested 720p and 1080p on some fast paced games/movies, i wouldn't be surprised at all that they couldn't tell any difference.