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Test Your Australian Music Here

  • 26-11-2006 12:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭


    A complete ignoramus comment HERE made me think perhaps Ireland is a cultural backwater and Irish people are not as cultured or musically sophisticated as I formerly thought.

    Please tell me that these dumbed down tabloid readers are the exception and not the rule. Surely you guys have heard of SOME of these bands?

    ACDC
    Wolfmother
    Jack Johnson
    JET
    INXS
    Ben Harper
    Nick Cave and the bad seeds
    The avalanches
    Savage Garden
    Daddy cool
    Midnight Oil
    Crowded house
    Hunters & Collectors
    Paul Kelly
    Bernard Fanning
    Dead Can Dance
    Regurgitator
    You Am I
    Pete Murray
    Powderfinger
    Silverchair
    Something for Kate
    The Clouds,
    Killing Heidi
    John Butler Trio
    The Waifs


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭dazzlermac


    your a pest!!!!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    Seriously tho'...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 630 ✭✭✭MagnumForce


    You forgot Kylie!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    dSTAR wrote:
    A complete ignoramus comment HERE made me think perhaps Ireland is a cultural backwater and Irish people are not as cultured or musically sophisticated as I formerly thought.

    Please tell me that these dumbed down tabloid readers are the exception and not the rule. Surely you guys have heard of SOME of these bands?

    Careful there, or I might start thinking that Aussies are all jerks who create threads bashing entire countries and their people because one person didn't think Australia produced that much good music.

    Also, this is the board where musicians look for other band members and such. God know what made you think this is where your little "Get back at Bazmo" thread belongs. :)

    Ps. You're a pest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Musoabuso


    forgot the best of all... the Sleepy Jackson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    Careful there, or I might start thinking that Aussies are all jerks who create threads bashing entire countries and their people because one person didn't think Australia produced that much good music...
    Karl - I developed a huge passion for music when I was growing up in Ireland. I listened to all sorts of music and as far as I was concerned Irish music was the best music in the world. To me there was nothing in the world like Thin Lizzy, Rory Gallagher or Gary Moore. But I also loved a lot of the stuff that was coming out of Australia such Midnight Oil, AC-DC, The Triffids and numerous others. All of my mates where into the same kind of music and I just presumed that everyone had heard of many of the bands we listened to.

    I am still continually impressed by the standard of new Irish music such as Damien Rice, Paddy Casey, Lisa Hannigan and many others. I know that these guys have been kicking around a bit in Ireland (have been to a couple of Juniper gigs in the 1990's and met Paddy Casey quite a few years back when he used to busk on the street) but they have only started to make inroads overseas. Irish music no doubt has reached a huge international market. Only recently I was in a bar in Hiroshima, Japan and stuck on Sarah by Thin Lizzy. I was amazed at how the people in the bar responded to it. It blew me away actually...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭dazzlermac


    fair play to ya d-star!!!!!!!pest:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭tosh_thedude


    ACDC - YES!!
    Wolfmother - Yes
    Jack Johnson - Yes
    JET - Yes
    INXS - Yes
    Ben Harper - YES!!
    Nick Cave and the bad seeds - Of course!
    The avalanches - Yep
    Savage Garden - Yeah
    Daddy cool - Yeah
    Midnight Oil - YES!
    Crowded house - Yeas
    Hunters & Collectors - No!! :-O
    Paul Kelly - Yep
    Bernard Fanning - Nope
    Dead Can Dance - Nope
    Regurgitator - Nope
    You Am I - Nope
    Pete Murray - YES!!
    Powderfinger - Nope
    Silverchair - Yeah
    Something for Kate - Nope
    The Clouds, - Nope
    Killing Heidi - Nope
    John Butler Trio -Nope
    The Waifs - Nope

    Im sure you forgot some! ;) .... But I wouldn't worried so much about what other people think, especially small minded people that clearly haven't been to OZ. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    Tommy Emmanuel, anyone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Maccattack


    ACDC - who hasnt?
    Wolfmother - saw them at the Olympia a few weeks ago. Unimpressed
    Jack Johnson - knob
    JET - rubbish
    INXS - below poo
    Ben Harper - ok i guess
    Nick Cave and the bad seeds - One of my faves
    The avalanches - never heard of them
    Savage Garden - lol!
    Daddy cool - a few good tunes. Mondo Rock were better.

    Midnight Oil - The best band in the world EVER! Sadly people here only know 'Beds' which in my opinion is a low point.

    Crowded house - ok. chewing gum for the ears.
    Hunters & Collectors - Pretty cool. Especially early stuff like 'talking to a stranger'

    Paul Kelly - cant stand him
    Bernard Fanning - twat
    Dead Can Dance - awesome. love them. but not essentailly australian
    Regurgitator - pffft
    You Am I - had all there albums but sold them recently. They suck
    Pete Murray - he aint gonna make it outside Oz
    Powderfinger - Tripe of the highest order.
    Silverchair - laughable
    Something for Kate - love them. Got all the albums.
    The Clouds, Liked them at the time.
    Killing Heidi - junk
    John Butler Trio - trying to be a rastafarian when youre not. Aint cool.
    The Waifs - some nice tunes


    There was a band called Sea Stories some years ago that I really liked.

    Weddings Parties Anything, Neil Murray, Rose Tattoo, Mi Sex and Spy V Spy were pretty good too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭The Freeman


    ben harper is american dude:confused:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Harper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭filament


    dumbest thread ever much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    I can't believe you put Savage Garden on the list. I didn't know they were Australian. And to think I used to like the Aussies..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭hexagramer


    i was born in adelaide SA and lived in Brisbane.

    when i got back here i despised this place and the structure of the music and metal scene. its so SMALL HAHAHAHAH

    answere yourselves this one question

    does it matter if every single irish person living here has herd of your band?

    SHUTUP because you's dont know a thing about the music industry or how its to be done.
    dammit i hate dealing with a nation so closed minded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭dazzlermac


    another ****in pest:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ya forgot The Starfighters, Midnight Oil and Angry Anderson!

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    I'd have called 'em chizzwozzers...

    Emm...Parkway Drive? That's all I got on Oz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭icon


    Natalie Imbruglia - YES
    Kylie - YES
    Holly Valance - YES
    Rolf Harris - YES

    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    Oz has got AC/DC, Nick Cave and maybe Crowded House - all the rest of those bands can suck my thumb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Kevin Bloody Wilson!

    Dead Can Dance are a great band also


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Kevin Bloody Wilson!

    Dead Can Dance are a great band also
    and the Avalanches.....that boy needs therapy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    dSTAR wrote:
    A complete ignoramus comment HERE made me think perhaps Ireland is a cultural backwater and Irish people are not as cultured or musically sophisticated as I formerly thought.

    Please tell me that these dumbed down tabloid readers are the exception and not the rule. Surely you guys have heard of SOME of these bands?

    ACDC
    Jack Johnson
    JET
    INXS
    The avalanches
    Savage Garden

    Ive only ever heard of the above, however apar from ACDC its the type of thing you see under the music section of an 18 year old female UCD students Bebo page.

    Which makes it complete ****e by default.
    icon wrote:
    Natalie Imbruglia - YES
    Kylie - YES
    Holly Valance - YES
    Rolf Harris - YES

    :cool:


    In Hollys cae, its a case of YES YES YES :)

    Kylie, pfft, I wouldnt touch her with yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭tosh_thedude


    hexagramer wrote:
    i was born in adelaide SA and lived in Brisbane.

    when i got back here i despised this place and the structure of the music and metal scene. its so SMALL HAHAHAHAH

    answere yourselves this one question

    does it matter if every single irish person living here has herd of your band?

    SHUTUP because you's dont know a thing about the music industry or how its to be done.
    dammit i hate dealing with a nation so closed minded.

    If you despise Ireland so much why don't you go back to where you came from.

    And in answering your question, No it shouldn't matter if your band is famous or your a complete nobody, the fact of the matter is, Ireland produces and will continue to produce just a many talented Musicians, Bands & song Writers
    as Oz will... maybe even more!

    I suppose you know EVERYTHING about the music Industry? :rolleyes:

    You 'closed minded nation' comment is laughably.... especially since the Oz is part of the commonwealth. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    How has this thread come this far without someone saying Jack Johnson isn't Australian. He's shíte anyway. I'll plead the female 18 year old ucd students favouritest bandz on bebo here.

    I can't believe someone would actually put Savage Garden down on a list of musicians they thought were a credit to their nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Can't believe no one's mentioned The Go-Betweens.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Only just noticed this thread now.

    Well done on taking my post in the other thread out of context dSTAR.

    For anyone that hasn't read the thread, it's about some Irish guy from Kildare that was participating in the Australian version of Pop Idol (he ended up winning it end and fairplay to him).
    In the thread dSTAR and some other posters were wetting themselves at how, "like Oh My God, like this guy is like amazing, like he's better than Damien Rice and like Bono and even like Elvis" and I was just trying to get them to put their comments into some kind of perspective, i.e. A guy appearing on a reality TV show in a country not known for their musical exports does not make him the next Damien Rice.

    I also find it quite funny that out of the 26 bands that you mentioned, I'd say that most people would possibly only know about 8 and 3 of those aren't even from Australia. Now who's the ignoramous?

    "Get back at Bazmo" thread
    YAY!! Never had one of those. I feel honoured, I really do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭peter1892


    Cold Chisel! A thread about Australian music & no one mentions Cold Chisel, or Jimmy Barnes? Or Slim Dusty ;)

    Seriously though, Chisel were great, and Barnesy played here in Dublin a few months ago, it was a great gig...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,598 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I can't believe no one's mentioned Pugwall and the Orange Organics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The best Aussie band is of course:

    THE BERZERKER!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Don1


    The Living End also worth a listen in my humble opinion. That's only a myspace site. Official site not working at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Don1 wrote:
    The Living End also worth a listen in my humble opinion. That's only a myspace site. Official site not working at the moment.
    They're actually a great band, although some would say that they're a poor man's Greenday. Their new album is brilliant.

    They're great live too, went to see them in the Ambassador when they played support with the Dropkicks last month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Don1


    Was there also. That's the first I'd heard of them. Got the album there and then. His voice does sound a bit like Billy Joe's now and then, but I think they are a little bit more creative/polished than Green Day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    My top ten Aussie artists:
    1. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
    2. Dirty Three
    3. The Birthday Party
    4. Oren Ambarchi
    5. SPK
    6. Crime and the City Solution
    7. The Saints
    8. The Drones
    9. Rolf Harris
    10. Dead Can Dance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    peter1892 wrote:
    Cold Chisel! A thread about Australian music & no one mentions Cold Chisel, or Jimmy Barnes? Or Slim Dusty ;)

    Seriously though, Chisel were great, and Barnesy played here in Dublin a few months ago, it was a great gig...
    Great gig all right, and Chisel were a great bar band. As are Powderfinger now (despite the negative comments from some, I think they're a good rock band).

    Anyone mention the Angels? Or the Saints? Didn't think so. Jack Johnson and Ben Harper Australian? I suppose you think Matchbox 20 are Australian too...

    EDIT: Ooops, John mentioned the Saints, my apologies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭icon


    ferdi wrote:
    Oz has got AC/DC, Nick Cave and maybe Crowded House - all the rest of those bands can suck my thumb.

    You don't mean Rolf Harris too do you?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Maccattack


    It is a sad truth that Australian music isn’t widely recognised throughout the rest of the world, bar a small number of territories. In some cases, perhaps many, that is a blessing but Australia has a thriving music scene that puts Ireland to shame. Im not trying to be insulting by saying this so don’t take offence but it is true.

    The reasons behind Australian bands failing to make an international impact are numerous. Sometimes its because they just aren’t good enough – this can be said about any number of acts from any number of countries, including Ireland – but one of the overriding factors that go against Aussie bands is the tyranny of distance.

    There are few acts if any that can survive without touring and for Aussie acts this is the thing that can kill them internationally. Unless a band essentially relocates to Europe or the US they are behind the 8 ball. An Australian band can have a massive home following. This can prick up the ears of overseas record companies and touring agents. But the big thing the local audience can deliver to the band is much needed revenue to pay for a tour of the USA or Europe. A tour that may or may not produce record sales and pave the way for another tour. The band then has to spend long periods away from home playing gruelling, expensive tours paid for with a relatively weak Australian dollar. At the same time they are neglecting their local fan base which could diminish if its not nurtured.

    Bands based in Europe are far more fortunate. They can fly to London in a morning or to New York for a week of shows. Aussie bands cant do that. Its just not viable. Any shows or promotional work has to be done as part of an elongated tour. So they often miss the boat.

    A one off tour would rarely cut it for anyone so this has to be an ongoing battle plan. Tour Oz to make some cash, tour Europe/US to build a following. It all takes up masses of time and money. Maybe that time and money could be better spent at home making records or playing territories closer to home.

    Major record companies don’t want to push acts like this. They want the money spinners that can pump cash out of the major territories. That’s partly why we have to endure U2’s world domination.

    As a result grass roots Australian music has become somewhat insular. You can usually tell a band is Australian by their sound. I don’t mean they use indigenous instruments, most try very hard to sound like their American and European counterparts and avoid sounding what can be perceived as amateur. Although it has to be said Midnight Oil proudly incorporated a lot of Australiana into their music to phenomenal artistic effect. The Oils among others were never afraid of displaying their origins, rather they hoisted them proudly for the world to see and hear. This positive affirmation of who they were and where they were from didn’t hinder their rise to the world stage. They got there. But they couldn’t sustain it despite having more credibility in one guitar string than any other band before or since. Unfortunately its largely about economics. Toward the end of their career they made the decision to concentrate on their home market, despite there being a strong following in America who to this day would die to see them play again.

    There are a lot of other factors that go against Aussie bands. Bands that would otherwise ‘make it’ over here. Its not that Ireland produces more bands. Its just that you know about more.

    Some of the best Aussie bands I ever saw never got past first base: Sea Stories, Not Drowning Waving, Pollyanna, Front End Loader, The Verys, The Welcome Mat.


    For a current act that could easily make it here and the US try – Something For Kate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Jack Johnson is from Hawai, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Timans wrote:
    Jack Johnson is from Hawai, no?
    He certainly is, however, that and other inaccuracies in the OP post have been already been pointed out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    ferdi wrote:
    Oz has got AC/DC, Nick Cave and maybe Crowded House - all the rest of those bands can suck my thumb.

    Crowded House were New Zealanders I'm sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Maccattack


    Crowded House were 1 part Kiwi, 2 parts Australian.


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