impressive m.a. chick display

Dave pft

One for the lads!
http://www.m90.org/index.php?id=27877

cowzerp

The girl could defo beat up oponents who attack from space-as all her kicks where straight up in the air!! sad thing is a decent box would finish all that show off crap.

walt0r

Cowzerp can't you see that she's training to boot 7 foot+ male attackers in the jaw. Sheesh...

On a more serious note. I think it's fantastic for young girls for their fitness and flexibility and overall confidence. But it just downright scares me when I hear a lot of young women who truly believe doing high kicks and katas like this will protect them while they're walking home alone some night from some big guy with only one thing on his mind...
My girlfriend recently told me that some of her friends are attending 'self-defence classes' of some nature. And I asked her what they do when the guy or guys are bigger and stronger than them (which is probably nearly all cases). Their usual reply is "I'll just do my self defence on them". Scary...

cowzerp

Thats my point alright-only yours sounded a bit nicer-:cool:

Dave pft

Defo true in regards to the self defence end of things. I personally was more impressed with her flexability in a pervy kind of way!

Dyr

she's good but she's no match for...bochick!!

http://www.elegraph.com/download/bochick.mov

KIAAAII!!!!!

Unpossible

I wish I was that flexible, or my girlfriend (what she also does HanMooDo )

I personally was more impressed with her flexability in a pervy kind of way!

ahem....oh, right..ummm... down with that sort of thing

edit: I thought it was funny when a guy started shouting "Focus FOCUS", just when she was trying to pull off* a difficult manouver

*whats a pun?

Unpossible

she's good but she's no match for...bochick!!

[professor Farnsworth] I a.... oh my[/professor Farnsworth]


On a serious note, can someone explain to me what they are being tested on? are these set kata or do the students make it up themselves?

Black Swan

Hope you guys had all your malware/spyware/adware systems up, as mine reported a host of them when I clicked the link by Dave_pft.

Goldfinger

cowzerp wrote:

The girl could defo beat up oponents who attack from space-as all her kicks where straight up in the air!! sad thing is a decent box would finish all that show off crap.

Jeez man, no-one's saying it's a SD piece!
Can't you just enjoy the skill involved? Or is it because it's not an MMA or RBSD clip you feel compelled to bash it before someone else does?

As it happens that kind of thing isn't exactly my cup of tea either, but it doesn't mean I can't sit back and ooh and aah at the girl's clear level of skill, flexibility and control.
Live and let live, wha'....?

kenpo_dave

Goldfinger wrote:

Jeez man, no-one's saying it's a SD piece!
Can't you just enjoy the skill involved? Or is it because it's not an MMA or RBSD clip you feel compelled to bash it before someone else does?

As it happens that kind of thing isn't exactly my cup of tea either, but it doesn't mean I can't sit back and ooh and aah at the girl's clear level of skill, flexibility and control.
Live and let live, wha'....?

I can ooh and aah at the girl too but what exactly is the skill youre talking about? Most of what she did was show off how flexible she is. Although high kicks can work, her only skill is making the guys go 'ooh, aah'.

cowzerp

Goldfinger wrote:

Jeez man, no-one's saying it's a SD piece!
Can't you just enjoy the skill involved? Or is it because it's not an MMA or RBSD clip you feel compelled to bash it before someone else does?

As it happens that kind of thing isn't exactly my cup of tea either, but it doesn't mean I can't sit back and ooh and aah at the girl's clear level of skill, flexibility and control.
Live and let live, wha'....?

As stated what skill?? i work in a gym and its just like learning an aerobics routine-great the girl is flexible and has good balance-when i see a video of her using these techniques for real i'll say its really cool-im just into what works and not what looks good. :cool:

JohnMc1

Impressive.

Dragan

Ah yes,

the usual "It would never work on the street" bull****. Last time i checked it was an Martial Arts display, done by a girl showing incredible balance, flexibility and a whole lot of speed as well.

The simple fact is guys, that not everyone trains for the street, not everyone trains to fight....some people just train to be able to do what that girl can do. I imagine she will do very well for herself to be honest....with a good set, good stunt director and a nice script that would not look out of place at all in a decent action film!!

I find it pretty funny that rather than just say "wow, shes really good at what she does" some of you feel the need to point out that you can't appreciate it, because your so narrow minded that YOU feel the need to transfer everyone else efforts into whatever arena you yourself train for!

In fairness guys, thats kind of like me coming on her and saying "wow, you train for the street/ring/fun? Hardly going to help you lift like me." Basically taking someones efforts out of context and devaluing them to make you feel a bit better about yourselves.

So give the girl her propers, shes doing what she wants to do.

kenpo_dave

You do have a good point Dragan, she is good at what shes doing, but I think it should be called 'Gymnastic Karate' or something like. I hate the whole notion of Martial Artists trying to impress onlookers (judges, spectators etc) with flashy moves that have about as much practical use as a bicycle in a yacht race. I even hate it when people call MMA events 'shows'. Spectators can go to hell as far as Im concerned.

Dragan

kenpo_dave wrote:

You do have a good point Dragan, she is good at what shes doing, but I think it should be called 'Gymnastic Karate' or something like. I hate the whole notion of Martial Artists trying to impress onlookers (judges, spectators etc) with flashy moves that have about as much practical use as a bicycle in a yacht race. I even hate it when people call MMA events 'shows'. Spectators can go to hell as far as Im concerned.

Spectators make everything, it's the people willing to pay who keep things alive, regardless of their reasons.

I also think its pretty dangerous to start assuming that one clip of someone encompasses all about them? The girl in question could be a fantastic fighter, and it's unfair to judge them based off one clip.

I believe that many people here do many different arts, this goes on to make up the whole martial artist.

Nothing about that clip leads me to believe it's advertising an art as a form of self defence....merely an art for the arts sake. If we break everything i life down to only what is practical then everything from writing a novel to human interaction becomes moot.

Sometimes it's good to do impractical things, just to have done them.

monkey tennis

Goldfinger wrote:

Jeez man, no-one's saying it's a SD piece!
Can't you just enjoy the skill involved? Or is it because it's not an MMA or RBSD clip you feel compelled to bash it before someone else does?

Seeing as this is the SD/MA board, it's hardly surprising that people here are going to be judging it from an SD/MA viewpoint. If this were the Gymnastics forum, then it would be fair to expect less SD-based comment.

Dragan

monkey tennis wrote:

Seeing as this is the SD/MA board, it's hardly surprising that people here are going to be judging it from an SD/MA viewpoint. If this were the Gymnastics forum, then it would be fair to expect less SD-based comment.

But you gotta love the irony of people consistently talking about how the have to defend their arts here......while attacking others.

kenpo_dave

Dragan wrote:

Spectators make everything, it's the people willing to pay who keep things alive, regardless of their reasons.

I also think its pretty dangerous to start assuming that one clip of someone encompasses all about them? The girl in question could be a fantastic fighter, and it's unfair to judge them based off one clip.

I believe that many people here do many different arts, this goes on to make up the whole martial artist.

Nothing about that clip leads me to believe it's advertising an art as a form of self defence....merely an art for the arts sake. If we break everything i life down to only what is practical then everything from writing a novel to human interaction becomes moot.

Sometimes it's good to do impractical things, just to have done them.

The spectators merely pay for the venue, the ring, the coverage and so on. So that the fighters have a nice fancy place to compete. But those who are truely dedicated to training and the prosperity of their style, be it Karate, Kung Fu, Kickboxing or MMA, would compete in a field if they had to. Though saying that, there would probably still be spectators in the field.

kenpo_dave

Dragan wrote:

But you gotta love the irony of people consistently talking about how the have to defend their arts here......while attacking others.

My point is simply that IMO Martial Arts and their events are not for the viewing of spectators but for the training and improvement of those who practice them. The spectators, as I said, merely finance the events.

Dyr

Dragan wrote:

Ah yes,

the usual "It would never work on the street" bull****. Last time i checked it was an Martial Arts display, done by a girl showing incredible balance, flexibility and a whole lot of speed as well.

The simple fact is guys, that not everyone trains for the street, not everyone trains to fight....some people just train to be able to do what that girl can do. I imagine she will do very well for herself to be honest....with a good set, good stunt director and a nice script that would not look out of place at all in a decent action film!!

I find it pretty funny that rather than just say "wow, shes really good at what she does" some of you feel the need to point out that you can't appreciate it, because your so narrow minded that YOU feel the need to transfer everyone else efforts into whatever arena you yourself train for!

In fairness guys, thats kind of like me coming on her and saying "wow, you train for the street/ring/fun? Hardly going to help you lift like me." Basically taking someones efforts out of context and devaluing them to make you feel a bit better about yourselves.

So give the girl her propers, shes doing what she wants to do.

Funny you should mention taking things out of context and devaluing them because thats exactly the problem many people have when it comes to circus performances like that going under the guise of karate etc

Personally, I think if people want to do XMA or gymnastics, or buffy the vampire slayer choreography then thats great, go mental and best of luck. But when you see musical weapons, creative kata and the like masquerading as karate or kenjutsu it must sicken people who feel they have some responsibilty to preserve the integrity of the tradition they represent.

For example how p****ed off must irish dancers be knowing that the world will forever associate their art with michael flately?

john kavanagh

Bambi wrote:

Funny you should mention taking things out of context and devaluing them because thats exactly the problem many people have when it comes to circus performances like that going under the guise of karate etc

Personally, I think if people want to do XMA or gymnastics, or buffy the vampire slayer choreography then thats great, go mental and best of luck. But when you see musical weapons, creative kata and the like masquerading as karate or kenjutsu it must sicken people who feel they have some responsibilty to preserve the integrity of the tradition they represent.

For example how p****ed off must irish dancers be knowing that the world will forever associate their art with michael flately?

agree with you there bambi - i think that girls 'performance' (very impressive btw!) would be better put in a 'dance' or 'gymnastics' forum, not a 'SD or MA' forum where lets be honest it boils down to some sort of ability to fight. we may argue (endlessly and forever haha!) about how to measure that 'ability to fight' but surely none of us argue that that's what MA and SD training is (at the beginning anyway, hopefully at some stage it goes beyond that)

buck65

who says she wouldn't last on the street?
man with that speed and obvious power I reckon she would lash out a few kicks and you wouldnt know what hit you, that is a serious display of MA prowess and though I'm not into musical patterns and all that stuff I reckon that lady has put in some serious hours in the dojo.