My first hand advice post...all comments welcome

FutureGuy

Its my first hand help post, so looking for all advice! Not playing too long, started with 50 about 3 weeks ago, bankroll up to 300, and this is a $10 STT.

BTW, it took a while to format the post below, what the easiest way to get the text looking like below (or better!).

[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 1 : weetim has $1,480[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 2 : Bbarry has $1,920[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 3 : adamb25 has $1,940[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 4 : Hero has $2,075[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 5 : brdstbully has $1,940[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 6 : SLPL has $1,780[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 7 : naandja has $500[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 8 : Shayd has $2,745[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 9 : yaffle13 has $3,620[Nov 23 19:30:28] :

brdstbully is the dealer.[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
SLPL posted small blind.[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
naandja posted big blind.[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Game [6] started with 9 players.[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Dealing Hole Cards.[Nov 23 19:30:28] :
Seat 4 : Hero has Jh Js[Nov 23 19:30:30] :
Shayd called 40[Nov 23 19:30:33] :
yaffle13 folded.[Nov 23 19:30:35] :
weetim folded.[Nov 23 19:30:37] :
Bbarry folded.[Nov 23 19:31:16] :
adamb25 folded.[Nov 23 19:31:25] :
Hero called 40 and raised 100[Nov 23 19:31:28] :
brdstbully folded.[Nov 23 19:31:37] :
SLPL called 120[Nov 23 19:31:39] :
naandja called 100[Nov 23 19:31:41] :
Shayd called 100[Nov 23 19:31:41] :
Dealing flop.[Nov 23 19:31:41] :
Board cards [Jd Kh Qd][Nov 23 19:31:19] :
SLPL checked.[Nov 23 19:31:21] :
naandja bet 40[Nov 23 19:31:23] :
Shayd called 40[Nov 23 19:31:28] :
Hero called 40 and raised 160[Nov 23 19:31:31]
SLPL called 200[Nov 23 19:31:32] :
naandja called 160[Nov 23 19:31:34] :
Shayd called 160[Nov 23 19:31:34] :
Dealing turn.[Nov 23 19:31:34] :
Board cards [Jd Kh Qd 9h][Nov 23 19:31:37] :
SLPL checked.[Nov 23 19:31:39] :
naandja checked.[Nov 23 19:31:39] :
Shayd bet 2,405 and is All-in[Nov 23 19:32:24] :
It's your turn.[Nov 23 19:32:24] :
Hero has 10 seconds to respond...

So what should I do?

I'm a believer in constructive comments so all are welcome!

phantom_lord

easy fold.

Hectorjelly

Raise much more preflop, much more on the flop. As played fold.

FutureGuy

Thanks for the help guys,
I'll raise more next time. Hectorjelly, what would you have raised it to preflop? Perhaps 5 x BB?

In the end, I folded and another guy went all in. River was another 9, and it turned out both had A x and split the pot with pair of 9's, A high. Both chasing a straight on the river.

I just need some reassurance that I did the right thing because I felt stupid after realising what they had. In the long term, wont these decisions will make me more money than not. Ended up finishing second.

Scouser in Dub

with 4 people in the hand I and 4 to a straight on the board I expect to find a 10 here pretty much all the time hence as played fold.

You do not want to play a multiway pot with PP's as a flop is more than likely to hit your opponents the more opponents in the hand online raising 5x the BB is more likely to thin the field.

On the flop you have a draw heavy board but with a set. The set aint without value the only hand you are likely behind is A 10 as Q's or K's are raising pre so > pot it and make anyone pay to out draw you

peeko

hey futureguy

there is a nice hand convertor here:
http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

FutureGuy

I always seem to have trouble playing JJ preflop, as I always fear that the chances of an A, K or Q hitting the board on the flop are pretty good (enter MUPS) and thus I don't raise as much as I really should.

While we are here, another quetsion.

I'm sticking religously to the 20 x buy in for my STT level which is currently $10. I'm now at $320 and I'd like to try out the $15 STT, as my bank roll now permits this. But I'm not sure if I should move up or keep playing $10 tourneys (after 90 $10 STT, my ROI is 50-55%) in order to work on my game. So should the bank roll and ROI determine whether I move up, or how confident I feel? Is there much difference in skill between the $10, $15, and $20 tribeca STTs?

Thanks for all your advice guys!

5starpool

FutureGuy wrote:

I'm sticking religously to the 20 x buy in for my STT level which is currently $10. I'm now at $320 and I'd like to try out the $15 STT, as my bank roll now permits this. But I'm not sure if I should move up or keep playing $10 tourneys (after 90 $10 STT, my ROI is 50-55%) in order to work on my game. So should the bank roll and ROI determine whether I move up, or how confident I feel? Is there much difference in skill between the $10, $15, and $20 tribeca STTs?

Move up when you are comfortable doing so. Bankroll requirements are meant to be used as a minimum guideline for when you can move up. If you would prefer to play a set number of STT's at the lower level, say 200, before you move up then do this.

I doubt though you will find much difference between $10 and $15 STT's standardwise.

Scouser in Dub

FutureGuy wrote:

I always seem to have trouble playing JJ preflop, as I always fear that the chances of an A, K or Q hitting the board on the flop are pretty good (enter MUPS) and thus I don't raise as much as I really should.

There is a fair chance that one will hit the flop which is why betting more is more likely to get rid of Ax Kx types of hand

I played a few STT's at 20+2 and 50+5 and found neither of them much different to the 10+1 stt's on Tribeca*

*Stupidly small sample however so take with a pinch of salt

dvdfan

I play on tribeca and made the jump from 10's straight ot 20's and theres very little difference but after about 50-60 stt's at $20 my ROI was in the region of 35-40%, its now around 20% after about 200 or so, so its hard to tell on smaller samples because your ROI can jump dramatically with a bad run or good run with a small sample so you wont really know your true ROI until you play a couple of hundred STT's, but youll probably have moved another level at that stage. Im just about to make the jump from $20 to $50 in the next day or two so it will be interesting to see how i find that.