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Bluffing at low limits is fun. More 50/1

  • 17-11-2006 4:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭


    Hand 1

    Tight conservative player raises to $5 from EP. Complete idiot in the SB calls. I call in the BB with 78h. I started the hand with $100 and both the other players cover me slightly. Flop is 5-6-Q rainbow. Check to raiser who bets 10. He hasn’t flopped a set. SB calls. I call.

    Turn is a 6 putting 2 clubs on the board. Check. Check. PFR bets $10 again. Sb calls after a dwell up I call. River is the 3 of clubs. Sb Checks. I ???

    Hand 2

    Villain is 41/14/5 after a lot of hands. He makes it $5 preflop. There’s a call in front of me and I call on the button with 9T of spades. BB also calls. Flop is A-K-8. everyone checks. Turn is a Jack. PFR bets $6. I call. River is an 8. He bets $8 and I?

    Hand 3

    A real hand this time. I raise from the CO with Aces to $5. I hate my position at this table. Both button and SB are seriously loose. Button is 65/10 and SB is 45/10. They both call me. Flop is 4-7-8 rainbow. SB checks. I bet $12. Button calls. SB pushes for $75. I have $120 and the button covers me. Button’s range is wide here and 3 handed he’ll still go broke with Top pair, any draw and 99>.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    NickyOD wrote:
    Hand 1

    Tight conservative player raises to $5 from EP. Complete idiot in the SB calls. I call in the BB with 78h. I started the hand with $100 and both the other players cover me slightly. Flop is 5-6-Q rainbow. Check to raiser who bets 10. He hasn’t flopped a set. SB calls. I call.

    Turn is a 6 putting 2 clubs on the board. Check. Check. PFR bets $10 again. Sb calls after a dwell up I call. River is the 3 of clubs. Sb Checks. I ???
    You're going to have to overbet this one to win it. Anything up to a pot sized bet will likely get called by either SB or EP. If you wanted to make a play for it a semi-bluff on the flop would be my choice.
    Hand 2

    Villain is 41/14/5 after a lot of hands. He makes it $5 preflop. There’s a call in front of me and I call on the button with 9T of spades. BB also calls. Flop is A-K-8. everyone checks. Turn is a Jack. PFR bets $6. I call. River is an 8. He bets $8 and I?
    You're going to try to rep the 8? What is Villains opinion on you? I think you'll get called by Ax if you try to bluff.
    Hand 3

    A real hand this time. I raise from the CO with Aces to $5. I hate my position at this table. Both button and SB are seriously loose. Button is 65/10 and SB is 45/10. They both call me. Flop is 4-7-8 rainbow. SB checks. I bet $12. Button calls. SB pushes for $75. I have $120 and the button covers me. Button’s range is wide here and 3 handed he’ll still go broke with Top pair, any draw and 99>.
    Call and get the rest in on the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Hand 1 preflop and flop are both bad. Repop it preflop if you want; otherwise fold. Flop play is bad. Just lead and see what happens. Definitely dont try and bluff the river againt two oppoonents, one of whom is loose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    I think I check fold the first two hand, and call the 3rd.

    IN regards bluffing at lower levels..
    I found at the lower limits you really need to PUSH them of hands if you're going to bluff. This includes showing strength at at least 2 stages in the hand, preferably re-raising pre-flop in position followed up with a bet on the flop, or if you have called pre-flop then you need to make a decent raise on the flop/turn. An out of context (over sized) bet on the river will generally get called at all levels. I don't think it's even worth the effort to be honest, unless you know the guy is an ok player and can drop top pair!

    When on a draw, if they give you odds to draw out on them, then take those odds, but drop if you miss. I think switching tactics from drawing to outright bluffing when you miss is a mistake (in most situations)

    If you decide to bet your draw, then do it convincingly. I prefer to be the PFR in these situations though. Represent TP off the flop etc... Have a decent stab on the flop, you will probably get a check on the turn to give you a free river and when you hit, you'll stack them with their slow played 2 pair off the flop!!:D

    I also think a rule of not bluffing against two people who have indicated strength is a good plan, unless it is some sort of squeeze play pre-flop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    Hand 1: I pushed. They both folded. I suck! :rolleyes:

    Hand 2: I knew this guy didn't have an A/K or 8 so I made it 35. He instacalled wih Quens.

    Hand 3. I folded. Sb had a set of 4s. The button called behind me with tens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    NickyOD wrote:
    Hand 1: I pushed. They both folded. I suck! :rolleyes:

    Hand 2: I knew this guy didn't have an A/K or 8 so I made it 35. He instacalled wih Quens.

    Hand 3. I folded. Sb had a set of 4s. The button called behind me with tens.
    looks my my advice was pretty much wrong in all examples!! lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    A good rule is to never ever try and bluff at this level


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    valor wrote:
    A good rule is to never ever try and bluff at this level
    I think someone said almost exactly this in the Bad Beat Sticky, some baldy fella from Limerick maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    lafortezza wrote:
    I think someone said almost exactly this in the Bad Beat Sticky, some baldy fella from Limerick maybe.

    Since when do geniuses ever folow their own advice?

    Speaking of genius plays. Can anyone explain this one to me?

    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Hand Start.
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 1 : Kindman has $11.75
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 2 : Parky47 has $70.25
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 3 : ladyka1 has $20
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 4 : dirksdogs has $40.50
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 5 : The D1amond has $135
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Seat 6 : endlesswes has $30.25
    [Nov 17 21:55:46] : Kindman is the dealer.
    [Nov 17 21:55:47] : Parky47 posted small blind.
    [Nov 17 21:55:47] : ladyka1 posted big blind.
    [Nov 17 21:55:47] : Game [78363] started with 6 players.
    [Nov 17 21:55:47] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Nov 17 21:55:47] : Seat 5 : The D1amond has 8d 4h
    [Nov 17 21:55:56] : dirksdogs called $1
    [Nov 17 21:55:56] : The D1amond folded.
    [Nov 17 21:56:01] : endlesswes called $1 and raised $2
    [Nov 17 21:56:09] : Kindman folded.
    [Nov 17 21:56:10] : Parky47 folded.
    [Nov 17 21:56:10] : ladyka1 called $2
    [Nov 17 21:56:25] : dirksdogs has 10 seconds to respond.
    [Nov 17 21:56:41] : dirksdogs did not respond and is folded
    [Nov 17 21:56:41] : Dealing flop.
    [Nov 17 21:56:41] : Board cards [7c Ks 7s]
    [Nov 17 21:56:47] : ladyka1 bet $2
    [Nov 17 21:56:55] : endlesswes called $2 and raised $8
    [Nov 17 21:56:57] : ladyka1 called $8 and raised $7 and is All-in
    [Nov 17 21:56:57] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
    [Nov 17 21:57:02] : endlesswes called $7
    [Nov 17 21:57:02] : Showdown!
    [Nov 17 21:57:04] : Seat 3 : ladyka1 has 6c 5c
    [Nov 17 21:57:04] : Seat 6 : endlesswes has Js Td
    [Nov 17 21:57:09] : Board cards [7c Ks 7s 6s 2c]
    [Nov 17 21:57:09] : Seat 3 : ladyka1 has 6c 5c
    [Nov 17 21:57:09] : ladyka1 has Two Pair: 7s and 6s
    [Nov 17 21:57:10] : Seat 6 : endlesswes has Js Td
    [Nov 17 21:57:10] : endlesswes has Pair: 7s
    [Nov 17 21:57:10] : ladyka1 wins $39.50 with Two Pair: 7s and 6s
    [Nov 17 21:57:19] : Parky47 : lol nh


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