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A long shot but I'll ask anyway

  • 17-11-2006 11:04am
    #1
    masterK
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    Has anybody ever come across any decent guides or figures for National Hunt handicapping?

    I'm firstly interested to know what scales the official handicapper uses when deciding on ratings after a race. An example: If horse A beat horse B by 20 lengths off level weights over to 2 miles on ideal ground for both horses what weight would the official handicapper give to horse A to make him equal to horse B? My rough guess would be 10lb but I've nothing to back this up with.

    I've all the figures for flat racing but nothing for NH, I've just formed my own rough guide but it would be good to get something more concrete.

    Alternatively I'd be interested in any figures from handicapping books that people have read.


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  • #2
    wb
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    The NH differs from the flat (which uses a sliding scale as the race distance increases). In flat the scale is 3lbs per length at 5f, 2lbs at a mile and 1lb at 2 miles.

    In NH, where the winning distances are often much greater, the practice is to allow one pound per length (except over extreme distances such as 4 milers)

    So I would imagine that in your example, If they were to run again, horse A would have to concede 1 stone 6 (20lbs) to make them equal. Im not 100% certain though.


  • #3
    masterK
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    I don't think you can give perform any sort of handicapping without considering the distance of the race. The scale I use is 1lb per length per mile which works out ok but may not be entirely accurate. In the example I gave I got 10lb from 20 lengths / 2 miles, had the race been over 4 miles the weight difference in my opinion would have been 5lb.


  • #4
    wb
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    Im pretty sure thats how its done though. The winning distance is important in NH, but not as important as on the flat. Its not a simple as distance though.Don't forget that variables such as age, winning time etc. are also considered.


    Similarly, when compiling their ratings (the RP ratings), the racing post also use 1lb per length in NH except in extreme distances.


    On the flat, they use a sliding scale slightly different to the OR's:

    5f: 3.5lbs
    6f: 3lbs
    8f: 2lbs
    10f: 1.7lbs
    12f: 1.5lbs
    14f: 1.3lbs
    16f: 1lb


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