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My Blues/Rock/Jazz Instrumental. Have a listen plz...

  • 10-11-2006 1:45am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭


    This is one of my first own proper songs recorded on my new Firebox (which im still trying to figure out) which I finished today and I would like you hear it. In MY opinion its a mix of those three genres (Blues,Rock and Jazz)... but mostly Blues! Tell me what you think!

    Woops forgot the link :-) ..... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=602948


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭So Glad


    Me? Buy a song?

    Pft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    Nice one dude. I like that but I don't particularly like you because you can do that and I can't. :mad: ;)

    :( My fingers are slow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Hendrix89


    ''Me? Buy a song?

    Pft.''
    Lol yeah I decided to put it up for Mp3 sell for da crack :-) I dont expect anything though!


    ''Nice one dude. I like that but I don't particularly like you because you can do that and I can't.

    My fingers are slow.''

    Quattroste, thanks... I guess :-) Its the playing and feeling that counts....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    You might get the 70cent off me for the track(if its not too much trouble :)) I am only learning Blues lead at the moment and your piece has a lot of nice little riffs and so on that I need to be learning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Hendrix89


    Quattroste wrote:
    You might get the 70cent off me for the track(if its not too much trouble :)) I am only learning Blues lead at the moment and your piece has a lot of nice little riffs and so on that I need to be learning.
    Hey great thanks! I might be 52cence richer :-) Its a start! I have to figure out how the buying over soundclick works though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭The Freeman


    NICE MOVES dude,similar style to myself(you'd be faster though);)


    and it sickens me to say it but for now better too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Dunno about buying it but I streamed it and found myself reaching for the "Close Window" button after a minute. Hendrix80 if you remember you posted a sample up a while back and I'll just repeat what I said to you then, let the thing breath.

    I'm a massive blues man meself and you have the right sound and speed but I think you ran out of ideas after 1m 30s - if you can only change the song by flicking your treble switch then you need to expand a bit. There's no harm branching out from Blues, that's what all the greats did to put their own stamp on it. No disrespect, you're a very good player, but perhaps listening religiously to Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan ultimately means you're a "tone clone".

    Suggestion, stick some compression on the guitar or get an Ibanez Tubescreamer pedal which will bring out the best in those sustained notes you're using. On a clean sound they just die prematurely. A bit of reverb can be nice too. Main thing is to relax with the licks, work your way into the fast licks so you don't give it all away in the first 30 seconds. You should be peaking around the 2min mark which is where you can really let rip before you round things off with your outro (which should be a nod back to a "head" riff you use at the intro).

    Intro Riff - Solo - Outro Riff

    Make it musical y'know? Listen to any great jazz or blues artist performing an instrumental. You still have to tell a story which is even harder in the absence of lyrics. Your fretboard is your voice, impact is everything and don't start shouting at the start of the story ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭Paligulus


    That's some nice playing OP!!! I think the Savman makes some good points on concentrating on the more dynamic side of your playing.

    The only thing I would suggest is maybe to try and introduce a few elements into your playing that brake away from the classic pentatonic/blues thing as this can sound very rigid when used over and over. A simple way is to maybe to add a few arpeggios, not long Yngwie style arps but 3 or 4 note arps that spell out that chord your playing over (not really possible over a one chord vamp), i.e playing the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 8th 9th. Its a really simple way of breaking away from the comford zone of the 'aul pentatonic.

    For more major sounding blues rhythms, maybe try using Dorian and mixolydian etc..

    All in all, your in a good position as you've got great tone and good chops so all you need to do now is to keep learning!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Hendrix89


    Savman thanks for your comment and most of all your honesty :-). Yes I have to admit myself that I still have not completely cooled it (my playing) down yet but I have actually been trying variation and if you listen to the whole thing (or skip to 1:33) you'll see, or hear I should say, I did switch to treble (bridge p'up), although maybe not for long enough. Anyway so yeah I dont do that often at all, but coincidentally I did do it then.
    perhaps listening religiously to Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan ultimately means you're a "tone clone".
    Well I havn't been playing long so I feel as though I havn't really had the chance nor the experience to be able to create my own style or tone yet. You know Im still picking up as much as I can from the musicians I admire. I never mentioned but I do like other artists too :-) Although I have to admit none as much as Hendrix. Frank Zappa for example is a great pleasure to listen to and of course was an incredible musical genius! I do listen to him quite often and have picked up a fair bit from him. I also listen to SRV (of course), BB King, Eric Clapton, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Santana, Canned Heat , Robert Johnson and more than I can think of at this moment :-)

    Anyway Savman thanks for the advice and helpful tone tips! And thanks to everyone else for your comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭ungratefuldead


    Sounds good for me man!!!!!!

    Nice one, but as the others said try to add some different variation, using different scale try to make it sound a little be different than the usual blues.

    I use myself slide/bottleneck to add great fills and when I record I use to lay down a cool rhythm pattern and after I improvise on it.

    But for the rest man you are on the right track.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Rustar


    As far as phrasing goes, 'breathing room', contrast, and working up to crescendos are important musically. But not all the time. Plenty of balls-to-the-wall rock and roll songs that have no clue what a 'crescendo' is. :)
    In lick-oriented blues, though, space might be a little more important.

    As far as style goes, make an effort to sit down and pick out two blues players, say BB King and Albert Collins, and learn their licks until they become internalized (much like you've internalized some good Hendrixian licks).

    Eventually you get to that point at the center of the Universe, --->YOU<---, that is part BB and part Albert and part Jimi but is your own unique sound that no one else has.

    And that's the truth. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    Is this improvised? If so i'd say it was good, but if a huge amount of thought went into it then i'd say just to cool it, it's kinda messy in parts and like savman said, let it breath, you don't have to play for every second of the track, if you feel yourself just playing anything you can, then just STOP. Chill out for a few seconds then get back into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭res1


    Bleu Note Jazz & Blues Club
    61-63 Capel street
    Dublin 1
    Welcoming all new acts/bands, send in demos/cds,
    A new stage in town. Every Monday/Tuesday/ Wednesday for new bands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Hendrix89


    Is this improvised? If so i'd say it was good, but if a huge amount of thought went into it then i'd say just to cool it, it's kinda messy in parts and like savman said, let it breath, you don't have to play for every second of the track, if you feel yourself just playing anything you can, then just STOP. Chill out for a few seconds then get back into it.
    Thanks. Yes I was improvising. One of the reason's its messy. I dont really have fun as much when I follow a pre-set piece. Too lazy also :-)

    'res1', thanks for the info on the venue. I'll have to look into it!

    Cheers 'Rustar', 'ungratefuldead' (great band :-)) I'm taking in everyone's advice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭fish-head


    Hendrix89, might I reccomend checking out a few Charlie Christian solos and stealing some of his licks and shapes? I'm doing that at the moment and it really adds a beautiful new element to your playing.

    Also, a bit of modulation wouldn't go astray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Nice work! Very hendrix like, id agree with the above comments aswell. I have a tendancy to rush into stuff (hammond/piano solos now not guitar) and use up all my best licks too quickly, sometimes with blues its nice just to chill and enjoy the simpler stuff before bringing out the big guns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    How long is it you are playing? The foundation is there.. but relax..there seems to be too much thought and not enough.. soul maybe.. Maybe that delevops with time..
    Don't think, just do.
    TK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fingers Mcginty


    you're nearly there but not just yet ;) ....only my opinion though.
    For me it sounded a little forced...dind't really flow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭icon


    It sounds like every standard blues lick just thrown in to the pot, but not in a good way, its like pointless and random meandering all the way. You need a structure, start middle and end, a hook, a riff, a theme running through. You have missed the essence of blues here, blues music is not about fancy guitar solos, it's about the feeling, the mood, and for me you didn't get there.

    Don't take this as unfair criticism but it seems to be self indulgent roaming, just an excuse to flap about. It sounds like you were not even listening to the backing track. It that was a gig, I'd be bored.

    But its the backing track kills it for me, it is an incessant loop that slowly drives me crazy. I like your playing enough to want to hear you play over something interesting. You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear. It a bit too computer music for me, souless!

    On the up side there is quite nice guitar tone, was that a strat middle and neck p'ups together? And stick with it, your guitar technique is getting there but don't be afraid of space, listen and jam with masters like Paul Kossof and BB King, don't allow your fingers to control things. Speed is just not important with blues. And spend a bit more time on chord progressions and structure. Solo's can be just the icing on the cake, not the cake!

    You will be a Jedi Luke!

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    Holy ****! That's some amount of advice dished out there!. I thought the OP was very good. Dam, I have a lot to learn and so little time!


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