999 (hh)

RustySpoon

Opinions please.

Very 1st hand on table so no reads

6 handed NLHE .50/1

Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 1 : Steface has $74
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 2 : Villan has $110.25
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 3 : Hero has $100
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 4 : flintstone1 has $54.50
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 5 : LFCBoy has $103.50
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : Seat 6 : Badboy slim has $97.50
[Nov 6 19:07:17] : flintstone1 is the dealer.
[Nov 6 19:07:18] : LFCBoy posted small blind.
[Nov 6 19:07:18] : Badboy slim posted big blind.
[Nov 6 19:07:23] : Hero posted big blind.

[Nov 6 19:07:23] : Seat 3 : Herohas 9h 9d
[Nov 6 19:07:25] : Steface called $1
[Nov 6 19:07:27] : Villancalled $1
[Nov 6 19:07:30] : Hero raised $3
[Nov 6 19:07:34] : flintstone1 folded.
[Nov 6 19:07:34] : LFCBoy folded.
[Nov 6 19:07:36] : Badboy slim folded.
[Nov 6 19:07:50] : Steface folded.
[Nov 6 19:07:51] : Villan called $3

[Nov 6 19:07:51] : Board cards [9c Qd Js]
[Nov 6 19:07:55] : Villan checked.
[Nov 6 19:08:00] : Hero bet $5
[Nov 6 19:08:05] : Villan called $5

[Nov 6 19:08:05] : Board cards [9c Qd Js Ac]
[Nov 6 19:08:09] : Villan checked.
[Nov 6 19:08:17] : Hero bet $10
[Nov 6 19:08:22] : Villan called $10 and raised $10
[Nov 6 19:08:34] : Hero called $10 and raised $20
[Nov 6 19:08:37] : Villan called $20 and raised $61.25 and is All-in

Call or fold?

ianmc38

I call.

ArmaniJeanss

RustySpoon wrote:

[Nov 6 19:08:05] : Board cards [9c Qd Js Ac]
[Nov 6 19:08:09] : Villan checked.
[Nov 6 19:08:17] : Hero bet $10
[Nov 6 19:08:22] : Villan called $10 and raised $10
[Nov 6 19:08:34] : Hero called $10 and raised $20
[Nov 6 19:08:37] : Villan called $20 and raised $61.25 and is All-in
Call or fold?

It hurts, but this is a fold.
Villian is rarely 4betting without at least the straight, more likely a better set.

gocall01

Fold - villan has flopped the straight IMO.
Tough but it happens...:o

ChipLdr

The ol 3 bb bet preflop is ynomous with AA. Of course thats just a personal thing but seriously it looks like you're beat here.

Always difficult to lay down a set though

ianmc38

ArmaniJeanss wrote:

It hurts, but this is a fold.
Villian is rarely 4betting without at least the straight, more likely a better set.

Lol. You make it sound like you'd rather the set.

shoutman

fold for me too.
I think the only thing he could possibly have that you beat is AK (providing you have him as a fishy player who cant lay it down to a raise)

Edit: Scousers right see below,

I still fold though

Scouser in Dub

AQ AJ not in the villains range here?

pok3rplaya

Bet more on every street. Don't minraise.

Hawk Eye

Set over set is very unlikely here he's probably got A9 or QJ.
If he's got KT then your going to be paying him off ever time cause he's played it poorly.

BTW don't post blinds out of position, anytime I see someone do this I usually tag them as an impatient donk.

RustySpoon

Scouser in Dub wrote:

AQ AJ not in the villains range here?

I had never played a hand with him before and it was first hand on the table. I did however put him on TPTK after the flop and two pair when the Ace came

gocall01 wrote:

Fold - villan has flopped the straight IMO.
Tough but it happens...

Hawk Eye wrote:

If he's got KT then your going to be paying him off ever time cause he's played it poorly.

That is exactly what happened, but i called and lost to KTo.

ianmc38

This is .50/1. 2 pair, one pair with a straight draw and TPTK are all part of this guys range from what i've seen at that level.

I dont like how the hand was played either tbh.

RustySpoon

ianmc38 wrote:

I dont like how the hand was played either tbh.

by Me or Villan?

luckyvegas7

i wouldnt have re re raised him in the first place. flat call the 20.

5starpool

RustySpoon wrote:

by Me or Villan?

In a hand where there is a check minraise which is in turn reminraised this is an indication of bad play on both parts.

Lafortezza

Arr-eeen!

cardshark202

pok3rplaya wrote:

Bet more on every street. Don't minraise.

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pok3rplaya

I'm in a longwinded mood so...

Firstly, your raise size preflop sucks. So much profit in poker comes from isolating preflop and taking it down on the flop with a cbet. You don't want a big multiway pot with three overs on the flop and 4 players still in the hand. You need to raise more preflop to cut the feild down and increace the equity of your hand. My standard raise size with 2 limpers ahead is $5-6.

Go to a pot equity calculator somewhere on the net, theres a few out there, put in your hand as 99 and add in a few more random likely hands against it. Watch how much your win persentage increaces as you delete a few opponents from the mix. Thats why you need to raise bigger (along with a bunch of other reasons).

Secondly your flop bet size isn't good. The pot size on the flop is what.. $9.50? With this board you need to be betting more like $7 - $9. If you don't know why go read about pot odds and have a think about how much the average 100NL player likes to draw.

The turn is also pretty bad. The part when you minraise his raise being the main mistake. Think about what hands like to call the flop and raise the turn. What do we get? Sets, 2pair, straights, bluffs, AK etc. Now, setting higher sets and straights aside because we cant beat them anyway, how do we get the most value from the hands we can beat? The answer is not by reraising back. That makes bluffs and Ace hands fold and turns 2pair into a wary hand. All we accomplish is to lose the most when we are losing and win the least when we are winning. A better line is to call his raise and check/call safe rivers. Note that it is possible to fold to certain bets on the river if certain cards come.

fixer

Hawk Eye wrote:

Set over set is very unlikely here he's probably got A9 or QJ.
If he's got KT then your going to be paying him off ever time cause he's played it poorly.

if you pay him off every time, I'd say he played it pretty well...

Hawk Eye

fixer wrote:

if you pay him off every time, I'd say he played it pretty well...

That didn't come out right the first time round.:o

I meant that you see this donkey line a lot at this level check-call check-minraise when there peddling the nuts.
Leading the flop into the pfr or check raising is much better i.e just cause you get the money in as fav doesn't mean you played the hand well.